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Posted by Darth Satanious on 12.05.2012 at 21:21
As the thread title states, which Anti-Christian band you respect the most and why? Reasons may range from the way they convey the message or even by reasons that do not have anything to do with Anti-Christianity at all and just simply because you respect them as musicians, people, or whatever reason may be.

If you agree with their stance, mention the band you respect the most. If you do not agree with Anti-Christianity but still there is a band you respect that has the message, mention them and the reason why you respect them.

Be understood as Anti-Christian those bands whose lyrics portray a message against Christianity (Satanic bands count) or a band whose members have voiced their rejection against Christianity in one way or another.



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theFIST

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  20.08.2012 at 00:27
Written by Clint W. on 13.05.2012 at 23:29

the cycle of poverty is made worse by poor policy decisions (no contraception, no abortion, no welfare)

a good case can be made for welfare being one of the causes of intergenerational poverty

Anyways, i don"t think anti christian bands have that much of a problem nowadays despite the large amount of people who are still christians, doing anti islamic black metal in the middle east seems to be quite a different story
So, my respect goes to Seeds of Iblis
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Written by Warman on 07.11.2007 at 22:39
Haha, that's like saying "compose your own Metal album and upload it here, instead of writing a review of an album".
SilentScream
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  22.08.2012 at 06:32
Philosophically, I prefer bands that are anti-christian without falling into the whole satanism thing.

We need post-christian bands (in the sense that they have gone BEYOND christianity), not satanists who are still stuck with christianity. Anti-Christianity should be about that post-christianity. To me, that is the ultimate manifestation of anti-christianity.

In other words, the ultimate anti-christianity is the one that entirely negates christianity. To whom christianity does not even exist.
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  22.08.2012 at 06:41
Written by theFIST on 20.08.2012 at 00:27

Anyways, i don"t think anti christian bands have that much of a problem nowadays despite the large amount of people who are still christians, doing anti islamic black metal in the middle east seems to be quite a different story
So, my respect goes to Seeds of Iblis


it is one thing to assail a religion that teaches "turn the other cheek" and might respond with whining. it is another to assail a system of beliefs that responds to negativity with bombs and beheadings.
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theFIST

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  22.08.2012 at 07:53
Written by BitterCOld on 22.08.2012 at 06:41

Written by theFIST on 20.08.2012 at 00:27

Anyways, i don"t think anti christian bands have that much of a problem nowadays despite the large amount of people who are still christians, doing anti islamic black metal in the middle east seems to be quite a different story
So, my respect goes to Seeds of Iblis


it is one thing to assail a religion that teaches "turn the other cheek" and might respond with whining. it is another to assail a system of beliefs that responds to negativity with bombs and beheadings.

Christianity isn"t just a "turn the other cheek" religion, thanks to the quote attributed to that jesus stating he didn"t come to remove any part of the law (old testament) but also to some parts of the new testament it can easily be a religion of "kill witches, people with different beliefs and homosexuals"
It"s a religion of multiple choice that can easily be chosen from for marketing and using it in almost every way possible
Also, according to the ancient text the same guy wanting his people to turn the other cheek also didn"t allow them to have money and private property, so he was a communist. That"s not a common christian position nowadays
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Written by Warman on 07.11.2007 at 22:39
Haha, that's like saying "compose your own Metal album and upload it here, instead of writing a review of an album".
Daniell
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  22.08.2012 at 10:57
Written by Void Eater on 13.05.2012 at 02:15

If we're speaking strictly Anti Christian, then Behemoth simply because anybody who manages to piss off an entire country for doing nothing wrong is worthy of my respect.


The whole country? Are you from Mars or anywhere else far enough to have no clue? There was a small group of fanatics who sued him, and they obviously lost.
Poland isn't more catholic than other countries. The stupid stereotype that it is comes from the fact that the pope John Paul II was Polish and so everyone in the world thought that Poles must be so religious.

A German dude is the pope now. Will you say that Germans are so religious now?
And by the way, I'm an atheist.

Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 13.05.2012 at 01:20

Unquestionably The Meads Of Asphodel have some of the most thought provoking and thought out lyrics on the subject.


This. If only more bands had the brains to speak like this. Sadly, most are like the cretins from Deicide, writing kindergarten level lyrics.
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pisymbol

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  23.08.2012 at 00:16
Clearly the answer to this question is Megadeth. Oh wait...
fatman88
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  25.08.2012 at 10:01
Burzum, not because of the music particularly but because Varg's message is basically the same as my personal philosophy. Christianity and any Jewish or Muslim religion has no place in our European society, he embraces traditional European values but with a sensible modern scientific worldview. No bullshit, none of that satanism, black magic garbage, just common sense
pisymbol

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  25.08.2012 at 18:51
Written by Guest on 25.08.2012 at 10:01

Burzum, not because of the music particularly but because Varg's message is basically the same as my personal philosophy. Christianity and any Jewish or Muslim religion has no place in our European society, he embraces traditional European values but with a sensible modern scientific worldview. No bullshit, none of that satanism, black magic garbage, just common sense


I agree. I think most of European society actually has been corrupted by Christianity and its elk.

Same goes for Paganism too. Tree hugging hippies.

We started civilization in between the Euphrates and Tigris rivers.

Let's reset there and see what happens...

I am not an extremist like Troy Killjoy who clearly advocates in his reviews a more hunter/gatherer society. Wacko.

On a more serious note, I am absolutely positive that if Paganistic societies were the norm, Varg's message would be talking about Christian values and how it got lost due to the violent Pagan uprising.
Angry Chair

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  07.09.2012 at 04:41
Im pretty sure Kreator are athiests so I would choose them.
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squidrick420

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  28.01.2013 at 06:54
Written by Guest on 25.08.2012 at 10:01

Burzum, not because of the music particularly but because Varg's message is basically the same as my personal philosophy. Christianity and any Jewish or Muslim religion has no place in our European society, he embraces traditional European values but with a sensible modern scientific worldview. No bullshit, none of that satanism, black magic garbage, just common sense


I totally agree with you on this. I may not completely agree with his racist views, but i respect how he approaches this from a non-satinist prospective and i gotta say the music is a bonus.
The Demonblade
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  25.07.2013 at 11:07
Rotting Christ. They are anti-religion in general, actually. When born again christian Dave Mustaine declined to play in a festival in Greece because RC were on the bill, the guys faced this calmly and they didn't play instead. They didn't even insult Mustaine! A lot.... ΧΞΣ
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nobody

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  25.07.2013 at 14:53
Written by Guest on 25.07.2013 at 11:07

Rotting Christ. They are anti-religion in general, actually. When born again christian Dave Mustaine declined to play in a festival in Greece because RC were on the bill, the guys faced this calmly and they didn't play instead. They didn't even insult Mustaine! A lot.... ΧΞΣ


what didnt play megadeth?
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The Demonblade
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  25.07.2013 at 15:13
Written by Bad English on 25.07.2013 at 14:53

Written by Guest on 25.07.2013 at 11:07

Rotting Christ. They are anti-religion in general, actually. When born again christian Dave Mustaine declined to play in a festival in Greece because RC were on the bill, the guys faced this calmly and they didn't play instead. They didn't even insult Mustaine! A lot.... ΧΞΣ


what didnt play megadeth?

Megadeth played, Rotting Christ didn't play.
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nobody

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  25.07.2013 at 15:13
I see
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no one

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  26.07.2013 at 09:50
Written by Guest on 25.08.2012 at 10:01

Burzum, not because of the music particularly but because Varg's message is basically the same as my personal philosophy. Christianity and any Jewish or Muslim religion has no place in our European society, he embraces traditional European values but with a sensible modern scientific worldview. No bullshit, none of that satanism, black magic garbage, just common sense


Lady GaGa

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  27.07.2013 at 01:52
Deathspell Omega.

Sophisticated, original material both lyrically and musically. One of the best BM out there today.
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Infernal Eternal

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  21.01.2014 at 20:01
Rotting Christ. They cancelled their apperaance alongside Megadeth because Nustaine remembered he was Christian. The guys reacted in a mature way, which a metal "superstar" like Mustaine used to be, reacted just like a clergyman.
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nobody

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  21.01.2014 at 20:23
Written by Infernal Eternal on 21.01.2014 at 20:01

Rotting Christ. They cancelled their apperaance alongside Megadeth because Nustaine remembered he was Christian. The guys reacted in a mature way, which a metal "superstar" like Mustaine used to be, reacted just like a clergyman.


someone already told it , but its greek band whjat I dislike
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deadone
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  22.01.2014 at 01:35
Disclaimer: I'm an atheist.


I'm not sure why so many bands are anti-Christian. Christianity does play such an overt role in most Western societies any more. Even in Catholic countries such as Spain, church attendances are extremely low.

Sure our values originate in Christianity but they have to come from somewhere.

I think the scarier thing is fundamentalist Islam which is on the same level Christianity was in the Middle Ages in terms of societal control and expansionist notions.

Why don't bands sing against that?
Karlabos
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  22.01.2014 at 02:00
Written by deadone on 22.01.2014 at 01:35

I think the scarier thing is fundamentalist Islam which is on the same level Christianity was in the Middle Ages in terms of societal control and expansionist notions.

Why don't bands sing against that?

I think like that too. Singing against what Christians did thousands of years ago is a very of an old fashioned thing to do.
I cannot say much about Islam because there's about none trace of it in my country so I don't know very much, but judging by some documentaries it is indeed terrible. Treating women like junk, marrying people without their consent and stuff like that. If a band is against those repressive actions of religious traditions then I can actually support.

Also not all of those bands that say they are anti-christian have lyrics just against the dark ages practices, they often have lyrics like "God is evil" and "Satan is good", which is a thing I can't respect at all. Why would they want to mock other peoples beliefs "just for fun", not based on truly society threatening religious practices?
I do not respect any anti-christian band of nowadays. (But if they sound good I hear anyway =P)
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  22.01.2014 at 12:07
Written by deadone on 22.01.2014 at 01:35


Why don't bands sing against that?


Probably coz 90% of so called anti-christian bands do it for the sake of provoking and it's both trendy and easy to criticize christianity. Also, as you said, christianity had a large impact on western society, unlike islam (or much less). So the possible negative impact of such religion is still not palpable in westerns world everyday life... for now at least. This probably makes a lot of people not see islam as a threat.
But anti-islam is starting to spread in metal, thinking of Taake's lastest album or all those eastern bands that somehow mirror the 90' bm bands, but against islam.

On topic, I don't respect any band for the sake of being anti-christian, only basis is music. I find pathetic all those bands that only use it for shock value, or all those that at the same time glorify satanism or paganism. On the other hand, stuff like The Meads should be praised, with an interesting approach and very smart developpment. Same can be applied to some of the so called orthodox bm, even if too cheesy for it's own good.
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  22.01.2014 at 20:06
Written by Bad English on 21.01.2014 at 20:23

Written by Infernal Eternal on 21.01.2014 at 20:01

Rotting Christ. They cancelled their apperaance alongside Megadeth because Nustaine remembered he was Christian. The guys reacted in a mature way, which a metal "superstar" like Mustaine used to be, reacted just like a clergyman.


someone already told it , but its greek band whjat I dislike
bTW nice awatar

You don't like Greek bands?
Thanks!
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  22.01.2014 at 20:11
Written by Infernal Eternal on 22.01.2014 at 20:06

Written by Bad English on 21.01.2014 at 20:23

Written by Infernal Eternal on 21.01.2014 at 20:01

Rotting Christ. They cancelled their apperaance alongside Megadeth because Nustaine remembered he was Christian. The guys reacted in a mature way, which a metal "superstar" like Mustaine used to be, reacted just like a clergyman.


someone already told it , but its greek band whjat I dislike
bTW nice awatar

You don't like Greek bands?
Thanks!


I didnt say so, I dont like just that one
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Infernal Eternal

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  22.01.2014 at 20:19
Written by Bad English on 22.01.2014 at 20:11

I didnt say so, I dont like just that one

Me neither. But the old stuff (early '90s) is really good.
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  22.01.2014 at 20:41
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Written by Infernal Eternal on 22.01.2014 at 20:19


I didnt say so, I dont like just that one

Me neither. But the old stuff (early '90s) is really good.


I agree, but after it it becaim overated,
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Desert Father

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  25.01.2014 at 08:12
I respect bands that put a new take on the whole anti-Christian thing, as it's been pretty much covered. Immolation's Close to a World Below has some really interesting lyrics, which conclude that Jesus was not enough to save us from ourselves, etc. It's a cool idea which grabs me a lot more than other bands.

DSO has very deep lyrics, but they are written in such a way that they are hard to grasp. Concepts like Kenosis, the Apokatastasis Panton and the like are certainly unique, so I love and respect the band for even just having a go at tackling them.
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  31.01.2014 at 23:12
Vital Remains, the angriest anti-christian dudes out there.
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  01.03.2014 at 08:32
Deicide, because they are fucking awesome
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Rasputin

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  02.03.2014 at 07:23
This Anti-Christian thing has being going on for too long, who gives a shit anyway? Like I said before, attacking or singing against Christianity and Christ is as edgy, cool and daring as kicking a sick kitten. For me these days, this is a badge of complete lack of inspiration and conformity in a sense. The other side is of course the "Satanic" cope out, where it is supposed to be that much better, scarier and smarter, and is as equally as stupid, and silly. Pentagrams, reverse crosses and other garbage are the thing of the past, and I laugh my ass off when these bands try to pose as threatening, evil and tough. You made an Anti-Christian song, wooow, you are so tough and cool. Barf.

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