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Posted by Dead Ohlin on 17.12.2006 at 20:54
One of the most hailed US Black Metal and
One of the most powerfull hordes of the American scene
is without a doubt 'Nachtmystium'.

Azentrius (vocals / guitar / bass), Noctis (drums)

Discography:
2006 Instinct: Decay CD
2005 Visual Propaganda: Live from the Pulpits of Damnation DVD
2005 Nachtmystium mCD
2004 The First Attacks (Demos 2000-2001) CD
2004 Reign of the Malicious Cassette
2004 Demise CD
2004 Eulogy IV LP
2004 Reign of the Malicious / Nachtmystium CD
2003 Nachtmystium mCD
2002 Reign of the Malicious CD
2002 Demise



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Ilham
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  07.11.2014 at 13:43
What are you on about Mary?
Mary N.
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  07.11.2014 at 13:47
Written by Ilham on 07.11.2014 at 13:43

What are you on about Mary?

Nothing special, just trying to make fun of the idea that the whole scene of BM is always into being anti-social and it is an obligatory to practice it in their personal life and behind the scene and such
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  08.11.2014 at 08:49
Written by Slayer666 on 07.11.2014 at 12:05

Written by Rasputin on 07.11.2014 at 08:32

I'm still quite curious to find out what makes this band so...special? I listened through their last two albums, and was not impressed. What are you guys seeing and hearing that makes this band so good?


The last two didn't particularly impress me either. You should give Instinct: Decay a shot.

If, of course, you're ready to actually listen to the album instead of trying to find reasons to validate your "BM is a joke" bullshit.

I'll check it out. BM is a joke, I'm sorry but the time for it is long gone, and especially when it comes to freaking USBM. I still listen to BM, but I don't belong to the culture like I used to 10 years ago. I still die laughing when I see a band giving an interview on how "Anti-Christian and Satanic" they are. Ne treba ziveti u proslosti, vec stvarati nesto novo i bolje, zar ne?
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  08.11.2014 at 12:40
Written by Rasputin on 08.11.2014 at 08:49

I'll check it out. BM is a joke, I'm sorry but the time for it is long gone, and especially when it comes to freaking USBM. I still listen to BM, but I don't belong to the culture like I used to 10 years ago. I still die laughing when I see a band giving an interview on how "Anti-Christian and Satanic" they are. Ne treba ziveti u proslosti, vec stvarati nesto novo i bolje, zar ne?

Christ how hard is it to provide a translation? If you want this to be private just PM the guy with your question.
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  09.11.2014 at 00:38
Written by Ilham on 08.11.2014 at 12:40

Written by Rasputin on 08.11.2014 at 08:49

I'll check it out. BM is a joke, I'm sorry but the time for it is long gone, and especially when it comes to freaking USBM. I still listen to BM, but I don't belong to the culture like I used to 10 years ago. I still die laughing when I see a band giving an interview on how "Anti-Christian and Satanic" they are. Ne treba ziveti u proslosti, vec stvarati nesto novo i bolje, zar ne?

Christ how hard is it to provide a translation? If you want this to be private just PM the guy with your question.

Yes my child? Have you sinned lately? Five hail Mary's and an act of contrition. In nomine patri e filli e spiritu sancti. Amen.

To translate, I asked him that was it better to create something new and better or living in the past? The days of BM are long gone. The style can stay to an extent, but it is not relevant either in the grand scheme of things. Immortal does not give a shit, Cradle of Filth has not been BM for a while now, their first two albums up until the Median and maybe Godspeed on the Devil's Thunder, Satyricon is doing something that I am still trying to figure out, their artistic approach should've been reserved for a side project, and the band name should've been retired, now you have Mother North and Phoenix in the same sentence and ask yourself what the fuck is going on? It's as bad as Alcest and their last offering, with complete clusterfuck of an album. Endstille did not have an original idea in a while and after 100000 blast beats you don't give a shit anymore, Burzum's last decent album was Fallen and Belus in my opinion, what he did afterwords is a mindfuck. Dimmu Borgir is a gimmicky money making scheme that keeps selling edgy rebellion to teenagers, and their last album was a bitch fest directed at their former members, so very inspiring. Gorgoroth for the span of 3 albums before breaking up was nothing revolutionary, but Godseed's debut was actually pretty damn good although a decade too late. Deathspell Omega is overrated, Watain is another gimmick like Sothis from the USA, Wolves in the Throne Room, first few Alcest albums, maybe Agalloch and few other acts are doing something different and I respect that. Satanic Warmaster still thinks he is in the 80's, which I don't mind but I can't take it seriously. Craft went into Punk territory, Ruins of Beverast is decent...must I go on? Basically, the Scandinavian BM is still living in the past where they think it is cool and edgy to bash Christianity, yet for the descendants of Vikings their balls must have fallen off or got frozen in the process, since not a single motherfucker did a song against a religion that is my current fan favorite, that starts with an I and ends with an M So much for that "we are total bad asses." For the new kids on the block, I imagine when they pick up some of the bands I mentioned, or some others they truly think that it is great and awesome and dangerous and tough, but it really is not. I said it before and I will say it again, for BM to stop being a joke it needs to rethink everything, and create something new, because making another Bathory/Dark Throne/Mayhem XYZ band is not really cutting it anymore. And please, no more corpsepaint and inverted crucifixes, it is as as scary as Kiss and as stupid as ICP.

On that note, I am still waiting to hear what it is with this band in particular that I should watch for? I just hope it is not another mob mentality like fears ago when Earth, Coalesce and Enslaved came out with Vertebrae and every magazine was ranting and raving how great the albums were, when they were only ok.
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  09.11.2014 at 04:53
Cool. The guy above me knows about the 10 bigger named bands that were once the thing in black metal (and maybe a couple of fringe underground but on-the-cuff bands) and thinks that's a good representation of the current black metal climate. Great for you, son. I'd love to discuss more with you; I miss my younger self on this site when those bands were actually part and parcel of what BM currently was.

Really though, I'm having trouble thinking back to when BM thought it was tough and satanic and edgy, and when Darkclones and corpsepaint was actually in proliferation and when those bands you mentioned actually meant something significant. It's like a weird echo from the past that somehow surfaced after getting lost in Metal Storm's bowels. "...must I go on?" Yes actually, you should go on to actually reference, I don't know, the last 8 years of black metal perhaps if you want to critique what black metal is and should be doing?

Also... Vertebrae? Who the hell cared about that album? Axioma Ethica Odini is the one people flipped their shit over.

And who the flying arse is Coalesce? I must have missed out on that issue of Out In The Middle Of Nowhere monthly.
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  09.11.2014 at 05:32

"Burzum's last decent album was Fallen and Belus in my opinion, what he did afterwords is a mindfuck."

"Deathspell Omega is overrated"

"I said it before and I will say it again, for BM to stop being a joke it needs to rethink everything, and create something new"

"because making another Bathory/Dark Throne/Mayhem XYZ band is not really cutting it anymore. "

"And please, no more corpsepaint and inverted crucifixes, it is as as scary as Kiss and as stupid as ICP. "


Each of these sentences are so... I don't even have comments.
Have you ever heard of 3rd wave of black metal by any chance?
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Rasputin

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  10.11.2014 at 06:18
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 09.11.2014 at 04:53

Cool. The guy above me knows about the 10 bigger named bands that were once the thing in black metal (and maybe a couple of fringe underground but on-the-cuff bands) and thinks that's a good representation of the current black metal climate. Great for you, son. I'd love to discuss more with you; I miss my younger self on this site when those bands were actually part and parcel of what BM currently was.

Really though, I'm having trouble thinking back to when BM thought it was tough and satanic and edgy, and when Darkclones and corpsepaint was actually in proliferation and when those bands you mentioned actually meant something significant. It's like a weird echo from the past that somehow surfaced after getting lost in Metal Storm's bowels. "...must I go on?" Yes actually, you should go on to actually reference, I don't know, the last 8 years of black metal perhaps if you want to critique what black metal is and should be doing?

Also... Vertebrae? Who the hell cared about that album? Axioma Ethica Odini is the one people flipped their shit over.

And who the flying arse is Coalesce? I must have missed out on that issue of Out In The Middle Of Nowhere monthly.

Please do great sage enlighten me on these great bands you are talking about, since you are right, I guess I must've missed the last 8 years of metal. Also, my argument was directed at the Scandinavian scene. What is BM, please tell me, I'm dying to know.
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  10.11.2014 at 06:33
Grab your popcorn Karlabos
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Rasputin

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  10.11.2014 at 06:34
Written by no one on 10.11.2014 at 06:33

Grab your popcorn Karlabos

Indeed. Troll time
Rasputin

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  10.11.2014 at 06:40
Written by Karlabos on 09.11.2014 at 05:32


"Burzum's last decent album was Fallen and Belus in my opinion, what he did afterwords is a mindfuck."

"Deathspell Omega is overrated"

"I said it before and I will say it again, for BM to stop being a joke it needs to rethink everything, and create something new"

"because making another Bathory/Dark Throne/Mayhem XYZ band is not really cutting it anymore. "

"And please, no more corpsepaint and inverted crucifixes, it is as as scary as Kiss and as stupid as ICP. "


Each of these sentences are so... I don't even have comments.
Have you ever heard of 3rd wave of black metal by any chance?

Judas Iscariot, Ildjarn, Mutiilation, Averse Sefira and stuff like that? Vreid? Drudh, Belphegor, Dark Fortress? Stallagh? Blut Aus Nord? Shade Empire or that piece of crap Keep of Kalessin?
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  10.11.2014 at 14:10
Written by Rasputin on 10.11.2014 at 06:18

Please do great sage enlighten me on these great bands you are talking about, since you are right, I guess I must've missed the last 8 years of metal. Also, my argument was directed at the Scandinavian scene. What is BM, please tell me, I'm dying to know.

At the express risk of running into some wry sarcasm and commentary from your good self I won't spend too much time on the specifics, rather I'll just run off a list of bands that might be considered relevant, have gained some measure of recognition and tend to avoid the black metal stereotypes and tropes of old.

Oranssi Pazuzu, A Forest of Stars, Murmuüre, Cult of Fire, Arizmenda, Botanist, Infestus, Cloak of Altering, The Great Old Ones, Wormlust, Hail Spirit Noir, De Magia Veterum, The Meads of Asphodel, Dordeduh, Lychgate, Reverence, Cobalt, Netra, Verdunkeln, Panopticon, Brown Jenkins, Elysian Blaze, Rudra, Smohalla, Negative Plane, Aosoth, Code, Carpe Noctem, Agrypnie, Transcending Bizarre?, Plebeian Grandstand, The Secret. And so on, as well as a few things I don't like which are inarguably modern or fit the profile: Krallice, Gris, Altar Of Plagues, Mgła, Glorior Belli, Woods of Desolation, Deafheaven etc.

Even the likes of Mayhem, Blut aus Nord, Darkspace, Sigh, Enslaved etc. are still perfectly relevant too.
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  10.11.2014 at 15:39
I wonder how someone can listen to Blut Aus Nord and state that there's nothing new on the black metal scene.
It's like that saying "The worst blind is the one who doesn't want to see" =P
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  10.11.2014 at 15:42
Written by Karlabos on 10.11.2014 at 15:39

I wonder how someone can listen to Blut Aus Nord and state that there's nothing new on the black metal scene.
It's like that saying "The worst blind is the one who doesn't want to see" =P


If he listens to MVI, MVII, MVIII he is right. But not when it comes to their other stuff.
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Rasputin

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  10.11.2014 at 16:33
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 10.11.2014 at 14:10

Written by Rasputin on 10.11.2014 at 06:18

Please do great sage enlighten me on these great bands you are talking about, since you are right, I guess I must've missed the last 8 years of metal. Also, my argument was directed at the Scandinavian scene. What is BM, please tell me, I'm dying to know.

At the express risk of running into some wry sarcasm and commentary from your good self I won't spend too much time on the specifics, rather I'll just run off a list of bands that might be considered relevant, have gained some measure of recognition and tend to avoid the black metal stereotypes and tropes of old.

Oranssi Pazuzu, A Forest of Stars, Murmuüre, Cult of Fire, Arizmenda, Botanist, Infestus, Cloak of Altering, The Great Old Ones, Wormlust, Hail Spirit Noir, De Magia Veterum, The Meads of Asphodel, Dordeduh, Lychgate, Reverence, Cobalt, Netra, Verdunkeln, Panopticon, Brown Jenkins, Elysian Blaze, Rudra, Smohalla, Negative Plane, Aosoth, Code, Carpe Noctem, Agrypnie, Transcending Bizarre?, Plebeian Grandstand, The Secret. And so on, as well as a few things I don't like which are inarguably modern or fit the profile: Krallice, Gris, Altar Of Plagues, Mgła, Glorior Belli, Woods of Desolation, Deafheaven etc.

Even the likes of Mayhem, Blut aus Nord, Darkspace, Sigh, Enslaved etc. are still perfectly relevant too.

Excellent work

You got anymore Psychodelic Black/Doom, maybe some more atmospheric stuff. A Forest of Stars, the vocalist reminds me of Tom Waits, Kind of cool.
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  10.11.2014 at 17:45
Written by Rasputin on 10.11.2014 at 16:33

Excellent work

You got anymore Psychodelic Black/Doom, maybe some more atmospheric stuff. A Forest of Stars, the vocalist reminds me of Tom Waits, Kind of cool.

I recently compiled a list of psychedelic, and psychedelic-like stuff: http://metalstorm.net/users/list.php?list_id=3810

There's probably some blackened doomy stuff in there somewhere, and a bunch probably falls under atmospheric music too.
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  10.11.2014 at 19:42
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 10.11.2014 at 14:10


At the express risk of running into some wry sarcasm and commentary from your good self I won't spend too much time on the specifics, rather I'll just run off a list of bands that might be considered relevant, have gained some measure of recognition and tend to avoid the black metal stereotypes and tropes of old.

Oranssi Pazuzu, A Forest of Stars, Murmuüre, Cult of Fire, Arizmenda, Botanist, Infestus, Cloak of Altering, The Great Old Ones, Wormlust, Hail Spirit Noir, De Magia Veterum, The Meads of Asphodel, Dordeduh, Lychgate, Reverence, Cobalt, Netra, Verdunkeln, Panopticon, Brown Jenkins, Elysian Blaze, Rudra, Smohalla, Negative Plane, Aosoth, Code, Carpe Noctem, Agrypnie, Transcending Bizarre?, Plebeian Grandstand, The Secret. And so on, as well as a few things I don't like which are inarguably modern or fit the profile: Krallice, Gris, Altar Of Plagues, Mgła, Glorior Belli, Woods of Desolation, Deafheaven etc.

Even the likes of Mayhem, Blut aus Nord, Darkspace, Sigh, Enslaved etc. are still perfectly relevant too.


how do people not know of half of these bands after eight years?
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  10.11.2014 at 20:45
Written by no one on 10.11.2014 at 19:42


how do people not know of half of these bands after eight years?


I guess that if you make no effort in checking out new bands, the existance of ones mentioned above can easily be ignored.
I even know a couple of avid veteran metal fans that wouldn't be able to recognise half of those, though probably coz they aren't heavily into BM stuff.
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  11.11.2014 at 17:44
Written by Vombatus on 10.11.2014 at 20:45

Written by no one on 10.11.2014 at 19:42


how do people not know of half of these bands after eight years?


I guess that if you make no effort in checking out new bands, the existance of ones mentioned above can easily be ignored.
I even know a couple of avid veteran metal fans that wouldn't be able to recognise half of those, though probably coz they aren't heavily into BM stuff.

Out of that list, I recognized some, and some are quite good, but the thing is, my initial post was reflecting the Scandinavian scene, not the whole BM scene (although there were few bands that were out of that range but oh well). The other thing is, that you are right, I shared the list with some of my friends, and they were even WTF? Which is funny, because in this day and age, when we have internet, there are bands that are still underground.

As far as the list goes, one thing I did notice is that a lot of the bands go for that whole album approach to appreciate the music, instead of individual song by song. So if I listen track 4, it would make very little sense without 3 and 5. Reminds me of Moonsorrow for some reason.
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  11.11.2014 at 17:53
Back to NM or how much a big jerk Blake is, please.
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