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Posted by psykometal on 12.06.2013 at 10:17
It's been mentioned/discussed many times, all over Metal Storm, that unofficial sources are not acceptable when submitting/accepting edits to the band database. Yet I am still seeing several submissions/acceptances where sites like Metal Archives (of all sites!) and Wikipedia are still being used and accepted as the source for submissions/edits in Metal Storm's database. This needs to stop NOW!

Admittedly sites like Metal Archives and Wikipedia are great places for finding a starting point such as images, official site links or general album info. But even that info still needs to be verified using official sources to verify that what you "found" there is correct. If you can't verify all the info through the band's official sites then you can start turning to some alternative options. You can try checking the band's label site(s). In the case of albums, look them up on sites like Bandcamp, iTunes, Spotify, Amazon, etc.. You can try doing Google searches for news articles on sites like Blabbermouth, Metal Sucks, Metal Injection, Metal Underground, Brave Words/Bloody Knuckles, etc.. You can also try Google searching for band interviews.

It should be common knowledge by now, especially to people who have "earned" the permissions to submit edits without a Staff-check and those who can also accept other user's submissions, that places like MA have a tendency to be grossly inaccurate and loaded with bad info. So STOP submitting/accepting information with sites like MA or Wikipedia as the source! Otherwise I might decide to take away your ability to edit anything unchecked for a determinate amount of time.

Some very well known, AND UNACCEPTABLE, unofficial sites:
AllMusic
last.fm
Metal Archives
Metal Kingdom
Spirit Of Metal (which is practically a copy/paste of MA anyway)
Wikipedia


One of the pride and joys that I and many others, before and alongside me, have had through the years is the pleasure of shaping Metal Storm's database into something different and unique instead of just a copy/paste of sites like Metal Archives and Wikipedia. We are vastly different and far more accurate and complete than Metal Archives or Wikipedia will ever be because we only submit/accept properly verified information. Each and every one of our Database Chiefs (myself included), and several other Staff and many of our Contributors, Elites, and Users have gone to great lengths to ensure that we are not just a copy/paste of Metal Archives and Wikipedia.

So please, help me and the rest of the Metal Storm Staff keep this database the most awesome, unique and accurate database for Metal (and related) music on the internet!



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nobody

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  23.03.2014 at 02:43
Written by psykometal on 23.03.2014 at 02:26

Written by Bad English on 22.03.2014 at 16:59

Troy - defierence between MA and M are we permers and staff members confrirm changes what user do, MA no, only where they do it is RIP mussicans eddit , so ....
and read a MA main page statment about line ups, seemns they coppy us

Actually I believe they have a similar system as us wherein you just need enough community points. Major exception for us though, is we require users to get points in multiple fields to edit those fields. Whereas MA gives you access to the different fields as you earn enough main community points.

They are just bigger and more well known than we are, so they have a lot more users who submit edits.


I have edditied line up, edd, deleted as split up, old , I have edd albums but its all, non request me any souce, only top RIP artist they asked source
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nobody

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  02.05.2014 at 17:46
And here we go again ''how legit is metal archives as source''

galadriel -- Mr Appen ... same error as in MA, we hade in MS

this is what
Dodo Date , band member asver me aout him ....

band ansver this:
Quote:

Mr. Appen played with the band only 2 shows in 2011
I would say his position in the history of Galadriel is irrelevant. Thanks


so keep on using MA ... ehhhh
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  08.05.2014 at 13:23
Another example about MA sources
Blindet Rain

location was Paniklou...and such place dont exist in th Finland, I chacked whit 10 finnish users on facebook, here ... non and even wiki ever heard about such place .....so I send error report to MA

another diferenece between fan edit date and ms style perm and staff accepting eddits datebase..... another example about legit sources as spyko told us to do
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  20.05.2014 at 15:25
Another avidance why WE CAN NOT use wiki

Lita Ford

wiki (use to said) and also MS says .... Carmelita "Lita" Rossanna Ford
It is -- Lita Rossana Ford (eddited by me)

Video where she confirms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijJ0zduU0zo&index=13&list=PLvXmarOi5xICV0X4HfMH7S29EpvDpTQgd
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LeKiwi
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  13.06.2014 at 22:31
Jesus, I can't seem to follow what's going on with this lyric thing...what's the consensus? Can we use unofficial sources?
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nobody

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  13.06.2014 at 23:00
Written by LeKiwi on 13.06.2014 at 22:31

Jesus, I can't seem to follow what's going on with this lyric thing...what's the consensus? Can we use unofficial sources?


read a psyho statement about it
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LeKiwi
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  14.06.2014 at 01:32
Written by Bad English on 13.06.2014 at 23:00

read a psyho statement about it

I can't see anything that pertains to lyrics...
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nobody

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  14.06.2014 at 01:33
Written by LeKiwi on 14.06.2014 at 01:32

Written by Bad English on 13.06.2014 at 23:00

read a psyho statement about it

I can't see anything that pertains to lyrics...


page 2 or 3 ??

as far i remeber he said do it if lyric formath is good
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psykometal
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  18.06.2014 at 05:13
With lyrics, it doesn't matter if the source is official because a lot of bands don't put lyrics on their official sites these days. As long as they're formatted properly and you yourself have actually verified the lyrics are good, then it's fine.

Really, if you're pulling from an unofficial place like darklyrics (for example), include a YouTube video or Bandcamp or SoundCloud link if they have one for the album to make it easy for the checker to verify the lyrics before accepting. Lyrics aren't that hard to verify since you can just listen and read to make sure they match.
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  18.06.2014 at 05:46
It gets a little challenging with brutal death metal lyrics.
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psykometal
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  18.06.2014 at 15:08
And depressive/suicidal black metal shrieking.
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nobody

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  18.06.2014 at 15:34
Or japanese kenjay or what it calls ... unless theys creams Samuray jakuza harakiri
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  24.06.2014 at 13:43
Hej ppl if you add a video --- like old prom video as metallica - Whiksy in the jar'' or Tankard - Minds oN The Moon

You dont need official source, since those old MTv1 , VH1 Classic videos are not mentioned in ny official souces , maybe wiki .. only what I remeber Iron maiden old home page ha dall prom vids, not now .. so YT as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6aaqQ6iR0c also do the trick, only if you can see video and see its official made video for promotions , in tose cases fan add YT video do thetrick as well
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  19.08.2014 at 02:12
@Finnish members Array and Risto, or others
is Mikseri official band site or its just fan site
http://www.metalstorm.net/bands/band.php?band_id=3130&bandname=Roddick+Bleu

I wonder, does we can have this one here in the link, ?
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