I don't know how is it on the countries you guys leave (but probably is about the same), but I noticed that most private firms demand that people be extroverted/ talkative, be on those interviews, dynamic meetings, or even on everyday business, to the point that the person is discarded if he doesn't reach the required level of sociable.
However, not everyone can be that way, or can they? Some people are just more quiet, who don't feel the need to express their opinion on everything, but even then on dynamic meetings often they present a topic and put people on a circle and keep asking opinions for each one, even though the most obvious were all already said on by very first participants.
Question is: Can people just change this characteristic? Suddenly become extroverted just to fill the society purposes?
Or are the introverted ones just learning to live pretending to be something they are not to fit in? In that line, is demanding for a person to be sociable discrimination?

Not racism, since it is not based in "racial stuff", like skin color, but it is a discrimination of sorts, since people end up being left out for mostly unfair reasons. I agree that some Jobs require more extroverted people (or could a salesperson be quiet, introverted and shy?? a extroverted person would be better in such a job ).
Maybe very quiet people should look for Jobs in wich they don´t feel left out so much.

I am quite a active talker, I don´t have this kind of problem with work and stuff (and yes, I worked as a salesperson in a previous job)
The thing about me is, while I am good dealing with people in a professional level, the same does not occur in the personal level, since I have problems "Reading" people. I am very bad with this body language stuff, and I tend not to look people in the eyes (I hardly ever do this, and for very short times only ). Also, I don´t like to make physical contact (I hate when people touch me), and I don´t like parties, and other people reunions (like go dinning out with a group), so everybody thinks I am an annoying person/ that I don´t like them/ I am boring/ bla-bla-bla.
I don´t have much friends because of that. I don´t care much about other people, since I prefer to spend time inside my own-self.

Back to the topic, I think is prejudice, because people here are judged by others, whom believe their side is the only "right side".

I find in my job, though i am as good as anyone i don't get credit because i am not boastful and and really sociable or act overly passionate about my job ...so in a way i would say yes it is "discrimination"...kind of. Racism definitely isn't the right word but i know what your saying

i do think though that sometimes it might not be because you are quiet and withdrawn that you want get accepted as much, sometimes it is the way people take it, they may think you are being a snob or don't care or taking your shy personality as a gesture of not liking them

Oops, misused the word racism pretty hard here heh? Perhaps I should change it to discrimination, but you got the idea.

I also have this impression that people avoid me because of my shy personality. I also don't have much manners, so I guess they probably think I'm arrogant or something like that.

Written by Yavanna on 22.02.2014 at 02:24

I agree that some Jobs require more extroverted people (or could a salesperson be quiet, introverted and shy?? a extroverted person would be better in such a job ).
Maybe very quiet people should look for Jobs in wich they don´t feel left out so much.

Problem is, that most government and particular firms have the inerviews and dynamic meetings as part of the selective process, even though the job you're applying for is about being behind a computer for all the time. I feel like every job is requiring extroverted characteristics on the workers even though they're not essential for the job.

Written by Karlabos on 22.02.2014 at 17:43


Problem is, that most government and particular firms have the inerviews and dynamic meetings as part of the selective process, even though the job you're applying for is about being behind a computer for all the time. I feel like every job is requiring extroverted characteristics on the workers even though they're not essential for the job.

Exactly, unless you work in a mindless factory job, this seems to be the case. I have seen people in the trade make it to the top by simply talking shit and they seriously lack skills in there trade. This is with painting aaand building, which can be serious because these are the guys that stop your house leaking or falling down.

From what i have heard i didn't think "government firms" were as bad. Yeah sure the interviews maybe, but sometimes 30 minutes of acting is worth it, it's when you feel you have to put an act on for the whole time your at work. Government firms is a pretty broad spectrum though

Written by Guest on 22.02.2014 at 21:14

Exactly, unless you work in a mindless factory job, this seems to be the case. I have seen people in the trade make it to the top by simply talking shit and they seriously lack skills in there trade. This is with painting aaand building, which can be serious because these are the guys that stop your house leaking or falling down.

Which is pretty sad. After all what is important is for one to know how to do the job or to pretend successfully in front of the others that he does?
If one has a title say, graduation or specializations of any kind indicating that he knows how to do something, then it's far very more of an accurate evidence that he's qualified than a simple interview. As you said, one can fake himself for 30 minutes for an interview, but fake 4 years of graduation is a bit harder...
Still some selective processes take the title as the least important thing. Everything else counts, the dynamics, amount of previous jobs which don't even need to be related to the actual one in concern, and so on..

Written by Karlabos on 22.02.2014 at 22:40



Which is pretty sad. After all what is important is for one to know how to do the job or to pretend successfully in front of the others that he does?
If one has a title say, graduation or specializations of any kind indicating that he knows how to do something, then it's far very more of an accurate evidence that he's qualified than a simple interview. As you said, one can fake himself for 30 minutes for an interview, but fake 4 years of graduation is a bit harder...
Still some selective processes take the title as the least important thing. Everything else counts, the dynamics, amount of previous jobs which don't even need to be related to the actual one in concern, and so on..

even with a graduation or an apprenticeship what use is it if you don't actually do your job properly and just gain acknowledgement because your overly confident and speak well

I dont know...but i dont really get why would a company want their workers to be extrovert by default.I mean if a person get their shit in time whoy would i mess with their life (as manager/boss).I think that this atitude is a part of global "we care about you" social system that really push people into socialisation and conformisam with general social rules.
( i know what i want to say but i just cant expess it on proper way right now )

As for me goes it dont bother me ,cause i am something like social cameleon - i usually just adapt to my social suroundings but in core i remain me and do what ever i want.I think that it can be stessfull for people who have a dependant of weak personality/determination though....

Also new world order is so screwed up .... i gave up on it long time ago ....

Written by ANGEL REAPER on 23.02.2014 at 00:25

Also new world order is so screwed up .... i gave up on it long time ago ....

Actually, the world is screwed up and the people whom inhabit are even worse... I have completlely given them up :p