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Posted by MichaelAngeloT on 07.08.2014 at 13:25
Most of Metalheads believe that what we should call Metal is consist of heavy / power metal bands.
Apart from this,they all judge and criticise nu metal bands cuase they are not "Metal" as they tend to say.
Why??



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sherlocktw

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From: UK
  23.09.2014 at 09:51
Thats not it! i really dont get it cause for thema nu metaller is not a metalhead
_deepblack

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Age: 21
From: Iran

  04.11.2014 at 12:58
Cause in some cases its like rap ( not that i dont like rap ) and its not even rap and some cases its to simple and boring im not saying good metal is Death Metal im saying good compose good concept good music but some times there are some good tracks among them like Deftones - Passengers ( feat Maynard ) or some Mudvayne Tracks but mostly they are mainstream and popular and its not considered good music
Wingtorte

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  24.11.2014 at 21:53
Yes to a certain extent it was about backlash against another case of more "radio friendly" "extreme" music taking over the mainstream and being called "metal." At the same time, a big reason why many metalheads continue not to include nu-metal within the metal genre is that musically it tends toward being its own sub-set of rock. When you talk with the most dedicated of metalheads what is it that we very often tend to praise the most? The riffs, riffs and more riffs. Nu metal in generally tends to not be as focused on riffs and riff progression as the average metal band. Granted I haven't listened to any Slipknot beyond their first two albums and even then its been quite some time. But in those cases the guitarists role was restricted mainly supporting the vocalist. In fact, everything seemed to revolve around the vocalist. It wasn't about musicianship or addictive, memorable riffs or solos. That seems to be a trend for many nu metal bands, that the guitarist plays more of a supporting role than being able to stand on his own.

Also wanted to add that its a bit different to say that nu metal is underrated than to say that it isn't considered metal by metalheads. Like others have said many nu metal bands have much more mainstream success than many metal bands without necessarily being as good. So for many metalheads who don't like the genre, its can easily be seen as overrated.
Ganondox

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  27.11.2014 at 07:14
Written by Wingtorte on 24.11.2014 at 21:53

Yes to a certain extent it was about backlash against another case of more "radio friendly" "extreme" music taking over the mainstream and being called "metal." At the same time, a big reason why many metalheads continue not to include nu-metal within the metal genre is that musically it tends toward being its own sub-set of rock. When you talk with the most dedicated of metalheads what is it that we very often tend to praise the most? The riffs, riffs and more riffs. Nu metal in generally tends to not be as focused on riffs and riff progression as the average metal band. Granted I haven't listened to any Slipknot beyond their first two albums and even then its been quite some time. But in those cases the guitarists role was restricted mainly supporting the vocalist. In fact, everything seemed to revolve around the vocalist. It wasn't about musicianship or addictive, memorable riffs or solos. That seems to be a trend for many nu metal bands, that the guitarist plays more of a supporting role than being able to stand on his own.

Also wanted to add that its a bit different to say that nu metal is underrated than to say that it isn't considered metal by metalheads. Like others have said many nu metal bands have much more mainstream success than many metal bands without necessarily being as good. So for many metalheads who don't like the genre, its can easily be seen as overrated.


Probably the best explanation I've seen for why nu metal is not considered metal by some people, but I'm just going to add that at it's root nu metal is derived from metal riffs even though it's taken in a different direction, "Blind" by Korn is a good example, Jonathan Davis himself says it's just based around the riff. I'd also say the focus in nu metal is more on the groove than the vocals.
Jtbmetal123

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Age: 23
From: USA

  29.11.2014 at 08:39
Im not really sure why People have always hated Nu Metal. If it wasnt for Slipknot, Linkin Park, and Mudvayne I probably wouldnt have gotten into metal. It never picked up in the metal community. Most Likely never will as far as im concerned. I love Nu Metal and it will always have a special place in my heart.

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