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Posted by Groby94, 11.10.2014 - 19:08
I just noticed this happening today. I checked all of the top albums this year and most of their ratings suddenly went down, and that's because of several 1 ratings appeared out of nowhere during the night.

Something should be done about this, not because of stupid reasons as "my favorite band isn't 1st place omg". The rating system should reflect the real overall opinion of the users on the album (duh), and it should help other users decide whether they would want to give the album a shot or not (among other factors, of course).
25.12.2015 - 22:10
psykometal
A staff guy...
Elite
Hard to tell with those 2...

On the one hand their spreads look too wide, and varied to be abuse. But on another hand, they look so seemingly random that it makes one wonder if they're trying to be smart and hide their abuse amongst a wide array of rating habits; and on this same hand some of their ratings are just like, "Really, how can one hate that album so much? O_o". And on another hand some of their rating habits seem so similar one can't help but wonder if they're multi-accounts; but there's no overt proof other than them both being Belorussian.

Boggling, for sure. But nothing can be really be done about it because, if they are abusing smartly, and/or they are a multi-account, they've done a decent enough job at covering their tracks.
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25.12.2015 - 22:23
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by psykometal on 25.12.2015 at 22:10

Hard to tell with those 2...

On the one hand their spreads look too wide, and varied to be abuse. But on another hand, they look so seemingly random that it makes one wonder if they're trying to be smart and hide their abuse amongst a wide array of rating habits; and on this same hand some of their ratings are just like, "Really, how can one hate that album so much? O_o". And on another hand some of their rating habits seem so similar one can't help but wonder if they're multi-accounts; but there's no overt proof other than them both being Belorussian.

Boggling, for sure. But nothing can be really be done about it because, if they are abusing smartly, and/or they are a multi-account, they've done a decent enough job at covering their tracks.


seems Puppet hates prog metal, but giving Fates W 1 ... he is stupid, even I agree about Devil 1000
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30.12.2015 - 18:54
nightwica
Yeah, I have also realised what Puppets does must be a bad joke. I mean disliking several well recognised albums so much he would give them a ONE? There is such a wide scale, one should only be given to albums that are absolutely unlistenable to. Sure, musical taste is subjective and individual, but this much?
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15.01.2016 - 02:31
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
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15.01.2016 - 10:48
!J.O.O.E.!
Account deleted
It's only 3 albums. You can't discern a pattern out of 3 albums.
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16.01.2016 - 20:03
psykometal
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Meh. Erased them anyway because they were already busted for ratings abuse this past summer. *shrug*
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18.01.2016 - 14:04
K|ng
Http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=158398&r_order=year

Only maiden was perfect for 2015, all the other groups suck for this guy.. Come on you people, why you doing this!
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18.01.2016 - 14:09
K|ng
Huh! He has double profile as well !! What a guy for god sake... http://metalstorm.net/users/sanaz.dalvand/profile
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18.01.2016 - 14:15
Karlabos
Meat and Potatos
^ Lol
I sense someone being nuked soon =D
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19.01.2016 - 03:45
psykometal
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Written by K|ng on 18.01.2016 at 14:04

Http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=158398&r_order=year

Only maiden was perfect for 2015, all the other groups suck for this guy.. Come on you people, why you doing this!

Both dealt with. Gracias!
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27.01.2016 - 13:36
K|ng
I have another one as well.. A bit trickier this time..

http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=156797&r_order=year
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=158549&r_order=year

Firstly he seems to have double account, so at least one of them must be nuked. Also, if you take a closer look at his votes (they are lots..), he likes hard rock, classic heavy metal and a bit of thrash, but he sucks everything else (black, death, doom or whatever other genre).. If you think that this guy he listened all these albums that he voted, groups like Dissection, Morbid Angel, Inquisition, Carcass, Emperor, Septic Flesh, Deicide, Darkspace, Death etc etc, it's ok, but I think it's obvious that he votes just for managing the top lists and nothing else.

If I take myself for example, I personally cannot listen to any proggresive metal.. I don't like it at all, it pains my ears, i cannot help it.. But I don't go to any progressive band to rape it with bad rating. It's not fair to do that. And obviously, it's not fair to rate albums that you haven't listen! (You cannot listen a dosen of albums of a genre that you don't like!)
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27.01.2016 - 14:13
K|ng
No it doesn't matter, but it's stupid to rate albums of a genre that you don't listen to.. Too many black and death metal bands are abused in ratings for that reason. And if we speak for small bands that don't have too many votes (black metal bands at most), the voting abuse makes a big difference on the overall rating in the end, and it's just not fair.. It's not the end of the world ofcourse, they are just ratings, but it's not a bad thing to inform moderators if you see something like this.. However, in the case of this guy, he has a double account.. If he didn't have, i wouldn't post anything about him. I saw his votes closely because of this.
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27.01.2016 - 15:27
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27.01.2016 - 20:51
psykometal
A staff guy...
Elite
Written by K|ng on 27.01.2016 at 13:36

I have another one as well.. A bit trickier this time..

http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=156797&r_order=year
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=158549&r_order=year

Dealt with.
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03.02.2016 - 12:54
K|ng
Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=158741&r_order=year

All the down votes are from groups that are on the top 20 (or close) of every year.
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03.02.2016 - 13:39
K|ng
Written by psykometal on 19.11.2015 at 19:07

Written by Azarath on 19.11.2015 at 18:41

This does rather look like abuse:

http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=157812

Just dealt with that one actually. They were among the users that Risto was apparently trying to point out in the Amorphis ratings. Thanks.


Hmm.. Unfortunately he is abusing again..
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08.02.2016 - 12:10
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08.02.2016 - 13:33
Karlabos
Meat and Potatos
^First three are bound to be the same person: Look at those sequential user IDs =D
The last one is probably just someone easily amused.

I wonder what would happen if the MS awards had downvote option...
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08.02.2016 - 14:24
K|ng
The last one has email fengsong0407126.com
The previous one has fengsong0407yahoo.com

...And i just found another one (a 5th one!!) http://www.metalstorm.net/users/fs92/profile which has an email fengsong1992gmail.com and has the same 10s to Stratovarious and Cain's Offering..

Summary, 5 accounts the same person..!
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08.02.2016 - 19:36
psykometal
A staff guy...
Elite
Written by K|ng on 08.02.2016 at 12:10

Last night we had a stratovarious attack with 4 accounts downvoting some albums of top2015.

http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=157169&r_order=year
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=157170&r_order=year
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=157171&r_order=year
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=155953&r_order=year

There was actually six of them total. All 6 were upvoting Strato and Cain's Offering.

I've dealt with all of them accordingly. Thanks, hunters!
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04.03.2016 - 23:04
Nihil Aeternum
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04.03.2016 - 23:17
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by Nihil Aeternum on 04.03.2016 at 23:04

http://www.metalstorm.net/users/LeoDVal/profile


no votes at all, all is ZERO
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04.03.2016 - 23:47
Karlabos
Meat and Potatos
I don't know if you clicked on the right profile, but for me it shows the votes.
All of them either 10 or 1, just one more user using the old binary scheme
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05.03.2016 - 18:31
psykometal
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Elite
Written by Nihil Aeternum on 04.03.2016 at 23:04

http://www.metalstorm.net/users/LeoDVal/profile

Gracias por your diligence.
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12.03.2016 - 02:48
psykometal
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Elite
Written by - on 11.03.2016 at 20:44

Only 16 votes but seems a vote abuser
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=159045

Hmm... Apparently I deleted and messaged that fool once already, but didn't leave a mod note on his account to remind me. Oh well, dealt with. Thanks!
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13.03.2016 - 15:11
Karlabos
Meat and Potatos
Written by Nicko's Nose on 13.03.2016 at 08:59

Can anyone do something about that total retard Tony Montana rating every album in the top 20 of 2016 (well, formerly now) 1/10?

For future reference, it's better to post such matters on this thread.

That being said... Tony Montana after everything also turns out to be a vote abuser heh? Why am I not surprised?
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13.03.2016 - 15:53
Zap
Guest
He meets all the requirements to become the next most-hated person on Metal Storm
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13.03.2016 - 16:45
psykometal
A staff guy...
Elite
Written by Karlabos on 13.03.2016 at 15:11

Written by Nicko's Nose on 13.03.2016 at 08:59

Can anyone do something about that total retard Tony Montana rating every album in the top 20 of 2016 (well, formerly now) 1/10?

For future reference, it's better to post such matters on this thread.

That being said... Tony Montana after everything also turns out to be a vote abuser heh? Why am I not surprised?

Thanks for sharing.
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22.03.2016 - 07:02
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Just thought I'd point out that 5 out of 6 of the users who gave this album a 1 registered on the same day and have the same votes.
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22.03.2016 - 15:50
Karlabos
Meat and Potatos
^ and have "ss" in the end of their nick
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