IronAngel
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I'm a big fan of power metal. However, I also hate it. This paradox has an explanation, though:
At its best, power metal can be amazing. Some of my favorite bands play power metal: Kamelot, Blind Guardian, even Gamma Ray and Nightwish to an extent. However, the leap from average power metal to great power metal is huge: there is a huge number of mediocre power metal bands that are just plain horrible. When you make this kind of music, you have to get it just right or it turns out ridicilous and embarassing.
Power metal also requires a certain mood to be listenable, but bad power is still horrible.
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Lucas Mr. Noise
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It sucks, Flower Metal is for wimps. Only Flower Metal I've listened to is Wizard and that is already about half a year ago.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Lucas on 04.01.2008 at 23:26
It sucks, Flower Metal is for wimps. Only Flower Metal I've listened to is Wizard and that is already about half a year ago.
Ger Wizard or Fin Wizard and I agree whit you but Salamandra, Black Abyss, old Blind Guardian(IT WAS SPEED METAL) was good
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Written by Lucas on 04.01.2008 at 23:26
It sucks, Flower Metal is for wimps. Only Flower Metal I've listened to is Wizard and that is already about half a year ago.
Don't you think you should listen to more, before judging an entire subgenre, Lucas?
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Lucas Mr. Noise
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Oh well it is definitely not the only Power Metal I've heard. As a matter of fact, it was one of the first metal genres I got into. I meant to put in "Only Flower Metal I've listened to lately is.."
And K7, I think it was the German one. Never heard the Finnish one.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Lucas on 05.01.2008 at 00:53
Oh well it is definitely not the only Power Metal I've heard. As a matter of fact, it was one of the first metal genres I got into. I meant to put in "Only Flower Metal I've listened to lately is.."
And K7, I think it was the German one. Never heard the Finnish one.
Finish are more doomish, more epic
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
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bands like Dreamtale sound "doomish" and "epic" ?
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Lucas Mr. Noise
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Written by Ellrohir on 05.01.2008 at 12:52
bands like Dreamtale sound "doomish" and "epic" ?
No, we were talking about two different bands called Wizard. And he said the Finnish Wizard sounds more doomish and epic. Not Finnish bands in general.
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
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Written by Lucas on 05.01.2008 at 15:00
Written by Ellrohir on 05.01.2008 at 12:52
bands like Dreamtale sound "doomish" and "epic" ?
No, we were talking about two different bands called Wizard. And he said the Finnish Wizard sounds more doomish and epic. Not Finnish bands in general.
ah so...then my bad, sorry
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Written by Lucas on 04.01.2008 at 23:26
It sucks, Flower Metal is for wimps. Only Flower Metal I've listened to is Wizard and that is already about half a year ago.
Some Power Metal is actually incredible! Yes, much of it does sound sissy-ish, but that's just the typical stereotype that many of the bands conform to. Bands like Freedom Call, Rhapsody Dreamtale and Stratovarius are just musically great . Okay Rhapsody [Of Fire] get cheesy most of the time, but the imagination and the musicianship makes them so unique and gifted. Also Power Metal is something that's meant to put one in a good and optimistic mood, which is why the bands sing about the things that they do.
Oh and the German band, Wizard.......ummm I wouldn't consider them Pure Power Metal or 'Flower Metal' .........They don't even have a keyboard player .
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It sucks man. I cant stand how quite a few of the bands sound the same and a lot of the bands end up getting thrown into the progressive genre too. Idk about anyone else but inmo this is just not a good genre at all.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One
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the fact that "GENERIC" euro-power metal is winning handily speaks volumes about peoples' tastes. "Generic" anything should never be considered "good."
the helloweens and blind guardians of hte world play good power metal (i like them and i basically hate the genre overall), but the next notch down don't do a thing for me. terrible and uninspired.
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I agree with most of the statements here. Power metal bands are amazing, but I've heard way too many generic ones that start to get on your nerves when you listen to them enough. I think there needs to be a distinction between generic power metal and normal power metal. I don't see how a band like Kamelot and Lost Horizon can be considered as generic. If we're going to call anything that's happy sounding, has clean vocals and double bass drumming as generic power metal then I can say all death metal is generic as well, or any musical genre or sub-genre.
There's definitely a distinction between a generic band and a non-generic one... not sure how to explain it, but you definitely know it when you hear it
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by BitterCOld on 06.01.2008 at 09:52
the fact that "GENERIC" euro-power metal is winning handily speaks volumes about peoples' tastes. "Generic" anything should never be considered "good."
the helloweens and blind guardians of hte world play good power metal (i like them and i basically hate the genre overall), but the next notch down don't do a thing for me. terrible and uninspired.
I like your point about liking bands and hating it generaly
Same here I like Blind Guardian, Cans, Hammerfall, Salamandra, Black Abyss maybe + 3 more bands but hate genre
@all dont mix speed whit power and 80ties power, that are diferent type of music
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Doc G. Full Grown Hoser
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Written by BitterCOld on 06.01.2008 at 09:52
the fact that "GENERIC" euro-power metal is winning handily speaks volumes about peoples' tastes. "Generic" anything should never be considered "good."
Yeah, the question was sort of answered by putting 'Generic' in the title of this thread. For me I dont see the point, 75% of it sounds the same to me, every once in a while a band will pop out for me, but then again, im not a big power metal guy in the first place anyways.
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floydiac
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So many metallers are only interested in music that allows them to feel well endowed and manly. Get over yourselves.
I listen to a fuck load of power metal...Helloween, Stratovarius, Blind Guardian, Terasbetoni, Dream Evil, (some) Sonata Arctica, Rhapsody of Fire, Luca Turilli, Kamelot, Gamma Ray, Falconer, Edguy, Avantasia and Dark Moor for example. And I love it.
I don't consider myself a "wimpy" metaller. I also listen to symphonic metal, industrial metal, black metal, death metal, gothic metal, heavy metal, prog metal, folk metal, funk metal...etc
On top of all that, I listen to a fair amount of non-metal...techno, hard dance, industrial, EBM, dark electro, Alternative rock, blues, prog rock, DnB,
I consider myself quite open minded...it;s not about being wimpy.
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Europower is good but too soft.American Power rules because of itd thrash tones!(for example Iced Earth)
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Hrothdane
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While I mainly listen to what is generally considered "good" power metal (blind guardian, kamelot, nightwish, iced earth, etc...), generic power metal is my only real guilty pleasure. I know I shouldn't like it, but I do You may not like it. You may call it things like "flower metal." You may say its cheesy or sissy.
I don't give a shit. I love it.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One
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Written by floydiac on 18.06.2008 at 17:46
So many metallers are only interested in music that allows them to feel well endowed and manly. Get over yourselves.
I listen to a fuck load of power metal...Helloween, Stratovarius, Blind Guardian, Terasbetoni, Dream Evil, (some) Sonata Arctica, Rhapsody of Fire, Luca Turilli, Kamelot, Gamma Ray, Falconer, Edguy, Avantasia and Dark Moor for example. And I love it.
I don't consider myself a "wimpy" metaller. I also listen to symphonic metal, industrial metal, black metal, death metal, gothic metal, heavy metal, prog metal, folk metal, funk metal...etc
On top of all that, I listen to a fair amount of non-metal...techno, hard dance, industrial, EBM, dark electro, Alternative rock, blues, prog rock, DnB,
I consider myself quite open minded...it;s not about being wimpy.
I think you missed the point of the poll and simply focused on one response... Maybe post again when you catch up to the rest of the class?
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by floydiac on 18.06.2008 at 17:46
So many metallers are only interested in music that allows them to feel well endowed and manly. Get over yourselves.
I listen to a fuck load of power metal...Helloween, Stratovarius, Blind Guardian, Terasbetoni, Dream Evil, (some) Sonata Arctica, Rhapsody of Fire, Luca Turilli, Kamelot, Gamma Ray, Falconer, Edguy, Avantasia and Dark Moor for example. And I love it.
I don't consider myself a "wimpy" metaller. I also listen to symphonic metal, industrial metal, black metal, death metal, gothic metal, heavy metal, prog metal, folk metal, funk metal...etc
On top of all that, I listen to a fair amount of non-metal...techno, hard dance, industrial, EBM, dark electro, Alternative rock, blues, prog rock, DnB,
I consider myself quite open minded...it;s not about being wimpy.
feel free, only doom metal and heavy metal can make me free, spmetimes black, power makes me feel like pumpkin who,s gonna be sacrifiece to stupid kids
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It's good in doses and depends on my mood...
When i am in the right mood, i can't stop listen to hammerfal and sabaton
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There are a lot of good power metal band's...Yet, i stoped to listen it for half of a year i think. Only power metal i listen now is Rhapsody (great when i play Guild Wars ) and ElvenKing (if that counts in power metal )... And yea, i got to be in right mood to listen it, example xepi . But when im pissed of i usualy listen COB
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FOOCK Nam
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Written by Lucas on 05.01.2008 at 15:00
Written by Ellrohir on 05.01.2008 at 12:52
bands like Dreamtale sound "doomish" and "epic" ?
No, we were talking about two different bands called Wizard. And he said the Finnish Wizard sounds more doomish and epic. Not Finnish bands in general.
What do you think about Sabaton?
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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about Wizard I like Finish wizard but Germany are more cheesy for me, but Sabbaton its quate good but Im not huge fan of band
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FOOCK Nam
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Written by Bad English on 29.06.2008 at 14:31
but Sabbaton its quate good but Im not huge fan of band
Do you think if they, Sabaton, is cheesy? well, I know you're not power metal fan, but a question I have: have you ever had a time of listening to power metal, and even flowering metal before you like doom, or 80's ?
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by FOOCK Nam on 29.06.2008 at 19:01
Written by Bad English on 29.06.2008 at 14:31
but Sabbaton its quate good but Im not huge fan of band
Do you think if they, Sabaton, is cheesy? well, I know you're not power metal fan, but a question I have: have you ever had a time of listening to power metal, and even flowering metal before you like doom, or 80's ?
Not so chesy thay are more like Iced Erath mix Manowar something and I never had listened ower, I start whit heavy, hard rock, blues and death ,metal, now I like black and doom but power no I never listened it so much how heavy and doom
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Dangerboner Lactation Cnslt
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Written by Bad English on 27.06.2008 at 12:03
Written by floydiac on 18.06.2008 at 17:46
So many metallers are only interested in music that allows them to feel well endowed and manly. Get over yourselves.
I listen to a fuck load of power metal...Helloween, Stratovarius, Blind Guardian, Terasbetoni, Dream Evil, (some) Sonata Arctica, Rhapsody of Fire, Luca Turilli, Kamelot, Gamma Ray, Falconer, Edguy, Avantasia and Dark Moor for example. And I love it.
I don't consider myself a "wimpy" metaller. I also listen to symphonic metal, industrial metal, black metal, death metal, gothic metal, heavy metal, prog metal, folk metal, funk metal...etc
On top of all that, I listen to a fair amount of non-metal...techno, hard dance, industrial, EBM, dark electro, Alternative rock, blues, prog rock, DnB,
I consider myself quite open minded...it;s not about being wimpy.
feel free, only doom metal and heavy metal can make me free, spmetimes black, power makes me feel like pumpkin who,s gonna be sacrifiece to stupid kids
wat
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Written by Dangerboner on 30.06.2008 at 03:26
Written by Bad English on 27.06.2008 at 12:03
Written by floydiac on 18.06.2008 at 17:46
So many metallers are only interested in music that allows them to feel well endowed and manly. Get over yourselves.
I listen to a fuck load of power metal...Helloween, Stratovarius, Blind Guardian, Terasbetoni, Dream Evil, (some) Sonata Arctica, Rhapsody of Fire, Luca Turilli, Kamelot, Gamma Ray, Falconer, Edguy, Avantasia and Dark Moor for example. And I love it.
I don't consider myself a "wimpy" metaller. I also listen to symphonic metal, industrial metal, black metal, death metal, gothic metal, heavy metal, prog metal, folk metal, funk metal...etc
On top of all that, I listen to a fair amount of non-metal...techno, hard dance, industrial, EBM, dark electro, Alternative rock, blues, prog rock, DnB,
I consider myself quite open minded...it;s not about being wimpy.
feel free, only doom metal and heavy metal can make me free, spmetimes black, power makes me feel like pumpkin who,s gonna be sacrifiece to stupid kids
wat
Sometimes I think K7 is an uncomprehended genius, whose way of thinking is too sophisticated for our primitive ages.... maybe posterity will understand him and honour him on the way we hadn't been able to do...
european power metal sucks.
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FOOCK Nam
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Written by Bad English on 29.06.2008 at 19:38
Written by FOOCK Nam on 29.06.2008 at 19:01
Written by Bad English on 29.06.2008 at 14:31
but Sabbaton its quate good but Im not huge fan of band
Do you think if they, Sabaton, is cheesy? well, I know you're not power metal fan, but a question I have: have you ever had a time of listening to power metal, and even flowering metal before you like doom, or 80's ?
Not so chesy thay are more like Iced Erath mix Manowar something and I never had listened ower, I start whit heavy, hard rock, blues and death ,metal, now I like black and doom but power no I never listened it so much how heavy and doom
What about Dream Evil? and by the way, you know, viking metal, folk, or something labled like that also has power/melodic element, like Ensiferum, can you enjoy them?
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by FOOCK Nam on 30.06.2008 at 18:12
Written by Bad English on 29.06.2008 at 19:38
Written by FOOCK Nam on 29.06.2008 at 19:01
Written by Bad English on 29.06.2008 at 14:31
but Sabbaton its quate good but Im not huge fan of band
Do you think if they, Sabaton, is cheesy? well, I know you're not power metal fan, but a question I have: have you ever had a time of listening to power metal, and even flowering metal before you like doom, or 80's ?
Not so chesy thay are more like Iced Erath mix Manowar something and I never had listened ower, I start whit heavy, hard rock, blues and death ,metal, now I like black and doom but power no I never listened it so much how heavy and doom
What about Dream Evil? and by the way, you know, viking metal, folk, or something labled like that also has power/melodic element, like Ensiferum, can you enjoy them?
No I dont like that band but there was one swedish power/doom band, but I forgot name if I remmber I pspot it here
try Italian Elveking
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