ooo busted!

thought it was about plagiarism of the new singers look looking too much like their old singer

fuck that shit, its all going to charity anyways so who gives a fuck

Written by Guest on 06.06.2007 at 18:19

ooo busted!

thought it was about plagiarism of the new singers look looking too much like their old singer

Haha.That was a good comment.
Well,it does matter. :

Well at least conserning how much has happened, Tuomas won't be bored.

Read this a while ago. Just someone trying to make some cash, what an idiot. A song that no one has ever freakin heard of, and a big band like Nightwish is gonna steal that ... right :

The musical notes are seven... it's normal that sometimes a person writes something similar to the work of another one... I don't think this will be a plagiarism anyway

Its all going to charity, then if there's really plagiarism, he should be proud of it rather than to carry charges

Written by Katatronik on 06.06.2007 at 20:24

The musical notes are seven... it's normal that sometimes a person writes something similar to the work of another one... I don't think this will be a plagiarism anyway

Twelve, actually. And just because there are only 12 notes in Western music doesn't mean that artists are bound to run out of them. If you use a simple scale and a simple mode, then, yes, it is possible that songs will sound alike. However, something written in the blues scale (e.g. Tornado of Souls) is going to sound very different from something written with, say, an Arabic feel (Necrophobic's 'Awakening') or Egyptian feel (Creeping Death, Powerslave etc.), which are written in different modes (and I know hardly any of them). Notes aren't the only thing governing music; scales and keys are probably more important than individual notes ('The whole is greater than the sum of the parts')

That said, from what I remember of the chorus of 'Eva', the vocal melody (which is what is being criticised, here, I'm sure), was fairly simple, if pleasant. I don't doubt that it's possible that this song resembles it vaguely, but I doubt its plagiarism.

EDIT: Here's the song in question. Listening to it and to Eva, it's really only the first couple of notes of the chorus in each which sound alike. Which would imply that they're the same notes, by accident (probably in the same key). A coincidence, not plagiarism.

OMG MORE SCANDAL!!!! well it has happen before and even happen to me !I kind of did this music and then later I heard this band that I have never heard before from australia and OMG they had my rhythm and sound !I wonder why people get similar ideas!

I guess the primal idea of this scandal was not to earn money by accusing Nightwish in plagiarism. That musician just wanted to make his name worldwide known. And now it is so

Here we go...after monthes of not hearing anything from Nightwish all of the sudden there's topic after topic in the news concerning the bands actions. (Anything to try and get the band back in the spotlight)...please...
we don't really care that much Tuomas...

Written by Etaín on 06.06.2007 at 20:05

Read this a while ago. Just someone trying to make some cash, what an idiot. A song that no one has ever freakin heard of, and a big band like Nightwish is gonna steal that ... right :

I agree. That's a really stupid accusation, I think that Nightwish don't need to do such a thing..

I listened to that Finnish guy's song....well....it does make you hum "Eva"...but otherwise these can't be compared at all at all....however, it's awfully stupid....this guy is probably wanting the attention of the publicity...seriously, why should Tuomas copy his music....especially if it's an unknown author....besides...I'm sure that Tuomas has his own mind and his own ways of writing....

Written by SacredBlade on 06.06.2007 at 23:32

Here we go...after monthes of not hearing anything from Nightwish all of the sudden there's topic after topic in the news concerning the bands actions. (Anything to try and get the band back in the spotlight)...please...
we don't really care that much Tuomas...

Are you serious? ... Yeh ofcours, it was a part of Tuomas' big masterplan to get accused of this so he could get his face in the media!

Yes I'm serious. I didn't say it was a plan, but I know what should have been his plan - Keep Tarja in the band. Besides, their all but finished now. Sure they will sell alot of CD's and people will want to hear them out of loyality or just curiosity, but everyone will have to face the fact that "Nightwish" at least the band I reconize is a thing of the past. Period.

Heh, I don't think this is real plagiarism, probably just a coincidence.. But the guy has guts to sue them
you know HIM once plagiarised a Belgian band? (probably a coincidence, but funny as hell)

Written by Etaín on 06.06.2007 at 20:05

Read this a while ago. Just someone trying to make some cash, what an idiot. A song that no one has ever freakin heard of, and a big band like Nightwish is gonna steal that ... right :

Not suggesting Tuomas stole it, but to say that he couldn't have because his band is famous is silly.

@Suicider: Yeh, the Clouseau song! It soo sounds alike

@Sacred: Tuomas is a weird emotional dude, and im sure he's big enough to make his own decisions. He doesnt need the so called 'fans' to make them for him. New people get to know Nightwish every day. Some will only know them with Anette. So like you said, its only the Nightwish YOU know Not everyone will share your opinion, so pretty useless to generalize stuff.

@Hyvaarin: What i meant is ... A band like Nightwish that is already so known, and has brought out amazing stuff doesnt need to steal songs. They've already proven that they can make em good enough on their own

Nightwish, metal's new whipping post.

I heard both of the songs and the accusations are pure bullshit. "Pure bullshit" fits the quality of the vocalist in Jukka Reinivuo's song quite well too, but that's not the point here... Anyway, at first (2-3 seconds) in the chorus there's a slightly similar melody. "Slightly" and "2-3 seconds" being the key parts of that sentence. That's the only remotely similar part of these songs. If that guy really thinks Nightwish stole his stuff, he's a rotten moron. Probably just looking for popularity for his unknown little band. And if he'll get that, it'll be extremely funny since according to the few songs I've heard, the stuff is very amateurish and reminds me of school bands.

While I have heard this song that Nightwish have been accused of plagiarising, it's only that small first section of the chorus that sounds slightly similar in melody. However, despite that it may have just been a coincidence, I don't believe Nightwish's claim that they've never heard the song before either.

If you have a look at the cover of Evanescence's self-titled EP released back in 1999, you will realise that it is almost identical to Nightwish's 2004 release "Once". Now, from this Nightwish seem to have some accusations of plagiarising already. While I respect Nightwish as great musicians and all, I can't help and think that this is more than just 'coincidental'.

I think that Jukka Reinvuo is just looking for a fast paycheck.

If tuomas want to plagie a song he could plagie a less boring song......

Tuomas is definately out of ideas. Copy-paste, copy-paste, copy-paste!
First he fired Sami, then Tarja got a letter, now he's a copycat - what's next?! Gee, he's trying very hard to get some attention!
He should get marry and shut up for a change. He's getting old.

Written by Etaín on 07.06.2007 at 11:20

@Suicider: Yeh, the Clouseau song! It soo sounds alike

@Sacred: Tuomas is a weird emotional dude, and im sure he's big enough to make his own decisions. He doesnt need the so called 'fans' to make them for him. New people get to know Nightwish every day. Some will only know them with Anette. So like you said, its only the Nightwish YOU know Not everyone will share your opinion, so pretty useless to generalize stuff.

@Hyvaarin: What i meant is ... A band like Nightwish that is already so known, and has brought out amazing stuff doesnt need to steal songs. They've already proven that they can make em good enough on their own

Well thank you for clairifying that for me, I was under the impression that without "fans" you're nothing.....

Yeh ofcours. But that doesnt mean he cant fire Tarja just because the fans say he shouldnt. His music, his decision. If he thinks its whats best for the band, who are the fans to say he's wrong.

Enough said, let's just agree to disagree.

Fine You do know that Tarja was gonna leave anyway after this album? So they just made it a bit sooner ...

Written by Katatronik on 06.06.2007 at 20:24

The musical notes are seven... it's normal that sometimes a person writes something similar to the work of another one... I don't think this will be a plagiarism anyway

Yeah, there are so many metal bands, and I'm sure that none of them are truly unique. Everything has been done musically, its impossible to create a all unique style.. What in 20 years? Bands with only one crappy demo are sueing Black Sabbath because it really does kinda sound like them?

And Bling Guardian plagiarized Iron Maiden's Aces High in Welcome To Dying. *sagely nod*