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The Day is Tommorow - Help in Healing the Planet Earth



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16.07.2007 - 14:37
El
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Dear All, as we all can see the Earth is ill. What can we do to help it?
17. 07. 2007 is the date, the time is 11 h 11 min GMT time (greenwich) is the time when for 1 hour people from all around the would will pray, or meditate or sing, or do whatever they can to express their love towards the planet. Be a part of it. It maybe our only chance.
For more info www.firethegrid.com
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16.07.2007 - 16:26
Valentin B
Iconoclast
a very commendable initiative, though much too surreal for a majoritary atheist forum
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16.07.2007 - 16:33
Basso
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Why would you want to waste one hour of the worlds inhabitants time in praying when you could activly be cleaning or not driving a car or something that alteast give a little result...
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16.07.2007 - 16:38
Valentin B
Iconoclast
Written by Guest on 16.07.2007 at 16:33

Why would you want to waste one hour of the worlds inhabitants time in praying when you could activly be cleaning or not driving a car or something that alteast give a little result...

dude remember that this makes sense to believers. you might not buy it since you're probably an atheist.
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16.07.2007 - 16:42
yvesson

Written by Valentin B on 16.07.2007 at 16:38

dude remember that this makes sense to believers. you might not buy it since you're probably an atheist.


Hej,
Well if believers count on God more than science to solve environnement problems, then we should worry much...
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16.07.2007 - 16:56
Valentin B
Iconoclast
Written by yvesson on 16.07.2007 at 16:42

Written by Valentin B on 16.07.2007 at 16:38

dude remember that this makes sense to believers. you might not buy it since you're probably an atheist.


Hej,
Well if believers count on God more than science to solve environnement problems, then we should worry much...

you have a point there, but if there is a huge asteroid coming over, and there's no way to stop it, what do you turn to? just pay off the scientists to research more and more efficiently? that won't likely go anywhere fast.

but if all the people just start praying to him at once, even if he is listening to the latest megadeth album and does nothing to save our asses or he doesn't exist, wouldn't believing till the last moment that he'll rescue(even dying before you notice that he's not coming) be better than just thinking "shit.. an asteroid's coming..." and humanity's last 3 days or so would be filled with rapings, murders and the traditional "end of the world thieves"

all i'm saying is that religious people believe more in miracles, are more optimistic and generally (not a lot though)more happy than atheists(what i noticed, this is no gratuitious info) while atheists are more down to earth, realists(often even pessimists)

this is why it may work for the people involved, and for you it might sound like shit
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16.07.2007 - 17:41
Basso
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Cursed: The only reason more religions people are "more happy" than non-believes is because IGNORANCE IS BLISS.
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16.07.2007 - 17:48
Insineratehymn
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Written by Guest on 16.07.2007 at 16:33

Why would you want to waste one hour of the worlds inhabitants time in praying when you could activly be cleaning or not driving a car or something that alteast give a little result...

My sentiments exactly. If you want to get something done, do it yourself instead of relying on God to fix all your problems.
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16.07.2007 - 18:37
Sunioj

I have my own beliefs about the earth but I dont want to go into too much because it would be redundant. But yeah, it would probably mean alot more to actually take a step and clean up something or retain yourself from damaging the envireonment.
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16.07.2007 - 18:56
Valentin B
Iconoclast
Written by Guest on 16.07.2007 at 17:41

Cursed: The only reason more religions people are "more happy" than non-believes is because IGNORANCE IS BLISS.

yeah well remember the people on the other side of the fence say that as well, and no-one is convincing anybody just by that

i agree though, cleaning your back yard or something will work better though
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16.07.2007 - 19:18
APOHAKC
The Bard
Written by yvesson on 16.07.2007 at 16:42

Written by Valentin B on 16.07.2007 at 16:38

dude remember that this makes sense to believers. you might not buy it since you're probably an atheist.


Hej,
Well if believers count on God more than science to solve environnement problems, then we should worry much...


Yeah I really agree on this one

Listen all, fuck that singing and praying and do something that WILL help

Iam activist in one organisation since I was very young, my job is to go on forest and small mountain nearby and clean whatever we can, garbage and other shits that some dumbed asses left after having a barbeque, and I can bet that the same guys and girls will pray and sing tomorrow! You wouldn't believe what kind of trash we found there, carburators, porn magazines, caps, bottles of all kind of liquors, alcohol... And believe me, praying will not make it go and clean it, actions will!

Also, try not to go to buy cigaretts, newspaper... with car, I would rahter walk for 15 minutes than to spend gasoline and ruin nature in the same time, a lot of people think, a little 5 minute drive won't make damgae, it will, because millions of people thinks that, and even the ones that prays for the nature, grow up people!
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They say that we are gone but I can't let you down
The heathen faith will rise again we won't fail now
I know we cannot die forever is our time
Give my people back to me free from Christianity!!!!
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17.07.2007 - 01:27
Basso
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Quote:
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Written by APOHAKC on 16.07.2007 at 19:18



Hej,
Well if believers count on God more than science to solve environnement problems, then we should worry much...


Yeah I really agree on this one

Listen all, fuck that singing and praying and do something that WILL help

Iam activist in one organisation since I was very young, my job is to go on forest and small mountain nearby and clean whatever we can, garbage and other shits that some dumbed asses left after having a barbeque, and I can bet that the same guys and girls will pray and sing tomorrow! You wouldn't believe what kind of trash we found there, carburators, porn magazines, caps, bottles of all kind of liquors, alcohol... And believe me, praying will not make it go and clean it, actions will!

Also, try not to go to buy cigaretts, newspaper... with car, I would rahter walk for 15 minutes than to spend gasoline and ruin nature in the same time, a lot of people think, a little 5 minute drive won't make damgae, it will, because millions of people thinks that, and even the ones that prays for the nature, grow up people!


Amen
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19.07.2007 - 10:04
El
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Dear all, I think you should have read the site www.firethegrid.com in order to know a little more about the whole story. There are some very interesting things like this here: http://www.firethegrid.com/eng/home-fr-eng.htm
Take a look!:)
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23.07.2007 - 23:40
Nemesis-Divina
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Nice one Aronax
And yeah, I don't but that whole praying thing, I mean fine if your religious and believe in that sorting of thing, but I don't so...
I'm doing my bit as well like turning off the computer/tv from the switch when it's not really needed to be on, et cetera, I'm also trying to encourage the college to recycle more materials as we do seem to waste a lot in the art department I feel.
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24.07.2007 - 05:46
Kap'N Korrupt
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Praying certainly won't help...why pray to a God that doesn't exist anyway...the people who have commented here are so right...instead of praying you could of been collectively cleaning up some of the mess...ignorance like praying will not solve anything...

We own an environmental company that helps the environment so we're doing our part...
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24.07.2007 - 09:59
Erosive Offals
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I assemble group trash cleanups in my area all the time. We just go and pick up all the shit that society throughs out. Just this weekend we found enough red clay tiles to fill a whole box and I donated those to my friend. As far as praying goes, I'm laughing my ass off at that. This isn't some metaphysical buddhism chakras spiritual hippie convention, it's real life. Pray, pray to every god that there is a written account of and not one of them will answer you, not one of them will clean up this dump. I pulled 4 shopping carts out of the woods in front of my house yesterday, people just keep trashing the place.
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24.07.2007 - 10:12
NECURATU

I noticed I express my love a lot more tenderly and honestly when I'm dead drunk so I'm off preparing to love the Earth

Anyhow, the planet's fuckin fine, it's just the people that are dumb. No worry, in the worst case scenario humanity WILL DIE but the Earth will still be here, don't worry, be happy
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When the sun rises I take my flock on the balks
When the moon rises I tell the woods good night
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24.07.2007 - 10:29
El
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:-) Dear all , as it seems you do not know many religious people. For those who I know, they will never throw a garbage on the grownd, and they also clean and do what they can to save the earth. By the way believing in God and being religious are two very different things. I am not religious. As some of you have pointed out, we must rely on the science much more that on the worthless praying. But science nowadays is absolutely sure that there is one energy that is connected us, and we can affect with our thoughts to the energy.(movies What the bleep do we know, The secret ... the books of all spiritual teachers) Have you heard of healing with energy? It is quite a popular method already and many people are practicing it. Reiki is just one of those methods using energy. Also it is scientifically proven that we have energy, passing through our body. Are you conscious about your energy? And it is running through you just like the blood flow. Are you conscious about it? Are you conscience even about the blood flow or about the work of any of your physical organs?Not many people are. Not many people are conscious about the way their own physical body works. I am not myself.. but i am trying.(You can try yoga to become more conscious.) Can you focus your mind? Can you control your thoughts? If you think you can, try for about a minute Not to thing about a pink elephant. Can you do that? I can not. From my experience only .. i think we as human beings have very little knowledge about the truth, for the next questions : Why are we here on earth? What is the human soul made of?Or who I really am? If some of you have an answer to those, please write it down here!:)
Have you ever heard about the japanese science Masaro Emoto ( http://www.i-sis.org.uk/water4.php ) He shows that water react to human thoughts and feelings. And water acording to wikipedia "About 1,460 teratonnes (Tt) of water cover 71% of Earth's surface, mostly in oceans and other large water bodies, with 1.6% of water below ground in aquifers and 0.001% in the air as vapor, clouds (formed of solid and liquid water particles suspended in air), and precipitation.[2] )" And also how much % of water is our body made of? 80-90 % or so? And as it was proven that water react to thoughts think once again if praying does not matter. It is proven statistically, that with meditation of a group of about 300 people (i am not quite sure about the exact number of the people) the percent of the criminal acts in Manhattan are reduced with 30 % . Also there was one experiment made in Japan - Masaro Emoto talked about it on his lecture here in Bulgaria on the day the global meditation that the topic is about was. The experiment was with a lake that was full of some kind of plants that smelled very bad, and it was very unpleasant for the people leaving in the neighbourhood. After a mounth of meditations of many people the lake was clean. They just disappeared. Hard to believe, ha? :-) Not for me. I've been a witness to some "miracles" myself. We know nothing , that is what I know, and this fact is just keeping me open to everything new, cause guys, the live is alive, it is changing and we can learn and upgrade ourselves, but this is hard if we think we know everything:-) And the last thing i want to add here is that God is probably not what you are being thought it is. How do you imagine God? As a person? As Jesus? As that energy connecting everything. I will tell you what is God to me. Everything i see is God, everything I hear is God, everything a smell is God, everything that exist wherever is God. You are God, I am God. We are all connected with everything else, cause we are part of one and the same Consciousness. And please, do not tell me I am mad, or stupied or wierd or whatever you may think about me. I just use my right to tell my opinion and you should respect that, just like I respect yours. I love you!:) ALL!:)
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24.07.2007 - 15:08
NECURATU

Don't love me too hard, I'm sensitive!
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When the sun rises I take my flock on the balks
When the moon rises I tell the woods good night
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24.07.2007 - 21:42
Kap'N Korrupt
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By the way, you cannot heal mother earth...she is too far gone already to be saved...so you might as well sit back and enjoy the ride...
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24.07.2007 - 22:01
-tom-
Mr FancyPants
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"This rudderless world is not shaped my metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It's us. Only us"

Read Watchmen.
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25.07.2007 - 17:32
jupitreas
hi-fi / lo-life
I quite enjoy watching our planet "dying" so this is definitely not an event for me. I think I'll just get back to polluting as much as I can...
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25.07.2007 - 22:54
Insineratehymn
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Written by jupitreas on 25.07.2007 at 17:32

I quite enjoy watching our planet "dying" so this is definitely not an event for me. I think I'll just get back to polluting as much as I can...

Me too! Would you like to do it together?
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25.07.2007 - 23:34
Pinusar
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If they pray sometimes or meditate, it doesn't mean that they don't do anything else for the environment. I don't know, and I haven't read the links yet but probably if someone takes part in such event the person probably won't just throw garbage on the ground etc.
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