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Posted by Metalguaska, 17.05.2006 - 03:38
Well, i'm maybe idiot on this but, i want to know what is the Stoner sub-genre of metal.. i've seen for many times the bands listed here on metalstorm, and i always believed that Queens Of The Stone Age, was a rock band, but i found them here... so.. i want to know, what's makes them metal, and what is Stoner Metal...
04.12.2007 - 18:07
Kharn
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Written by Clintagräm on 15.07.2006 at 19:50

Yes indeed, The Sword is great straight-forward bluesy Doom, they're actually playing near where I live this Wednesday, I might go. Another favorite of the "Stoner" or "Desert" genre of mine is the Argentinian band Dragonauta. With a name like that (pulled from Sleep) you know they got to kill. Check out there wicked video for their song "Tomegapentagram."

http://www-star.stanford.edu/%7Eplatinom/drago_web.wmv



Yeah, i saw the sword supporting clutch in glasgow...just caught the end of thier set. they're alright but nothing special.

Does anyone miss the old orange goblin shit? i've heard the last few albums and they just aint anything compared to "frequencies..." and "Time travelling".
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18.12.2007 - 20:44
CrypticMyth
Metal Scientist
I could survive on Stoner Metal for the rest of my life. Heh.

urrent favourite album - Busse Woods by Acid King. I had been delaying checking them out for quite a bit, but man, they're frigging top notch! Those female vocals are just too trippy...

@Kharn: Yeah, I kinda get what you mean about Orange Goblin. I like their old era, but the newer era stuff is just different. It's dirtier and more motorhead oriented heavy/rock tinged stoner more than any of the older stuff. But having to pick, definitely older era, hands down.
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18.12.2007 - 22:17
UnholyMenace
Psycho
When it comes to stoner/doom, nothing can beat Spirit Caravan - Wino has probably one of the best voice in this genre. Also Cathedral - the live show was probably the best one for me so far. There has been many good stoner (metal) bands that have releases very good albums this year - like Alabama Thunderpussy, Sheavy, Black Betty, Beyond the Sixth Seal (I find it has very distinctive stoner influence).
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18.12.2007 - 22:43
Marcel Hubregtse
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Written by UnholyMenace on 18.12.2007 at 22:17

When it comes to stoner/doom, nothing can beat Spirit Caravan - Wino has probably one of the best voice in this genre. Also Cathedral - the live show was probably the best one for me so far. There has been many good stoner (metal) bands that have releases very good albums this year - like Alabama Thunderpussy, Sheavy, Black Betty, Beyond the Sixth Seal (I find it has very distinctive stoner influence).

This year's Alabama Thunderpussy I wouldn't call stoner, but straight up heavy metal instead, althoguh vocalistKyle Thomas did sing in stoner band Floodgate
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18.12.2007 - 23:51
UnholyMenace
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.12.2007 at 22:43

This year's Alabama Thunderpussy I wouldn't call stoner, but straight up heavy metal instead, althoguh vocalistKyle Thomas did sing in stoner band Floodgate
I never thought about ATP being heavy metal. When Kyle Thomas joined ATP the sound definitely changed, but I thought it was going towards southern metal, being more groovier than their previous releases.
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19.12.2007 - 01:35
Clintagräm
Shrinebuilder
Well, then you have to decide the difference between southern, stoner, psychedelic, and so many other genre's that use blues as a foundation. It's really hard to decide what one band is, but I don't care much for genre's. One thing I do know though is that I love the shit.
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19.12.2007 - 07:30
CrypticMyth
Metal Scientist
Written by Clintagräm on 19.12.2007 at 01:35

Well, then you have to decide the difference between southern, stoner, psychedelic, and so many other genre's that use blues as a foundation. It's really hard to decide what one band is, but I don't care much for genre's. One thing I do know though is that I love the shit.

In concurrence! But you can actually make out the difference between those bands. That's just one of the many reasons I love Doom (which I feel encompasses all these genres) Metal.

Anybody like The Atomic Bitchwax? I've heard only their self-titled and it's pretty damn nifty. It's basically some very groovy, bluesy stoner rock. I'm in the process of checking out other albums of theirs...
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20.12.2007 - 08:00
ArcanaHereticae

To me, I like alternative forms of Metal as opposed to Stoner Metal when I am stoned. Puzzling.
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02.01.2008 - 20:50
CrypticMyth
Metal Scientist
Anybody heard of this Swedish band called The Quill? I haven't seen their name drop in too many places, but I randomly obtained two of their albums and they kick mighty ass. It's like Soundgarden meet older era Sleep or something like that. They have a predominant alternative rock/grunge influence but they're definitely an out and out stoner rock band. Very, very good, all in all. Any takers?

The Website -> http://www.thequill.se/
Myspace -> http://www.myspace.com/thequillofficial
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02.01.2008 - 22:53
Lowelas OF FIRE
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Zakk Wylde's Black Label Society is like Stoner Metal right
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03.01.2008 - 03:28
Dangerboner
Lactation Cnslt
Not really man, just heavy metal.
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03.01.2008 - 04:12
Southern Wind
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I love stoner metal, what I hate are those rancid neo-hippies called stoners
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04.01.2008 - 04:18
Dangerboner
Lactation Cnslt
Written by CrypticMyth on 18.12.2007 at 20:44

I could survive on Stoner Metal for the rest of my life.

MAN! I love this genre.

Current favourite album - Busse Woods by Acid King. I had been delaying checking them out for quite a bit, but man, they're frigging top notch! Those female vocals are just too trippy...


Thanks for the recommendation! Acid King is pretty fucking good; almost hypnotizing. The California stoner scene seems pretty strong...

It's weird, I rarely smoke weed, and yet stoner metal/doom/sludge/whatever is becoming my favorite genre.
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04.01.2008 - 06:56
CrypticMyth
Metal Scientist
^^Stoner metal was a favourite genre even before I started smoking weed (which was quite a long time ago nonetheless )!
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04.01.2008 - 18:18
Southern Wind
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What is me, I couldn't listen to Goatsnake, Warhorse, Sleep or Corrupted without a good green joint, from that fat healthy weeds I grow in my garden

actually, the harvest time is usually my stoner/sludge metal time
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04.01.2008 - 23:15
Lucas
Mr. Noise
Written by Guest on 04.01.2008 at 18:18

What is me, I couldn't listen to Goatsnake, Warhorse, Sleep or Corrupted without a good green joint, from that fat healthy weeds I grow in my garden

actually, the harvest time is usually my stoner/sludge metal time


Aaaah, to have them just growing in your backyard like that.. Although, with all the cakes I'd bake, it would probably not be very healthy.
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24.01.2008 - 10:49
Opium
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Written by Dangerboner on 03.01.2008 at 03:28

Not really man, just heavy metal.

Although the vocals are somewhat reminiscent of Stoner vocalists. This is where some confusion can be drawn.
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24.01.2008 - 17:14
Clintagräm
Shrinebuilder
Written by Guest on 24.01.2008 at 10:49

Written by Dangerboner on 03.01.2008 at 03:28

Not really man, just heavy metal.

Although the vocals are somewhat reminiscent of Stoner vocalists. This is where some confusion can be drawn.


This is like I said before, it can get confusing to some people. BLS have a very heavy blues influence, just like Stoner Metal, so a lot of those genres share characteristics.
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24.01.2008 - 20:09
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Written by Clintagräm on 24.01.2008 at 17:14

Written by Guest on 24.01.2008 at 10:49

Written by Dangerboner on 03.01.2008 at 03:28

Not really man, just heavy metal.

Although the vocals are somewhat reminiscent of Stoner vocalists. This is where some confusion can be drawn.


This is like I said before, it can get confusing to some people. BLS have a very heavy blues influence, just like Stoner Metal, so a lot of those genres share characteristics.

Blues wasn't mentioned, but I don't disagree here
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24.01.2008 - 21:39
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Tage Westerlund
Blues are beggining of all metal remeber it and stoner still are heavy blues influenced, only black man can play real blues and white can play stoner
blues are roots of all
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24.01.2008 - 21:43
X-Ray Rod
Skandino
I'm really stupid with those genres...
Can someone tell me what's "Stoner", "Sludge", "Drone"?

I'm kinda new in Doom metal [wich has become one of my favorite styles] And I saw that a lot of doom bands has influences of this threes sub-genres... but I don't understand the difference or what they are.
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24.01.2008 - 21:49
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Tage Westerlund
Written by X-Ray Rod on 24.01.2008 at 21:43

I'm really stupid with those genres...
Can someone tell me what's "Stoner", "Sludge", "Drone"?

I'm kinda new in Doom metal [wich has become one of my favorite styles] And I saw that a lot of doom bands has influences of this threes sub-genres... but I don't understand the difference or what they are.


www.doom-metal.com

If you wanna good Stoner band try Abramis brame from Swe, damn my poor swedish was reason why I miss tahm live in Lulea 3 years ago
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24.01.2008 - 21:56
X-Ray Rod
Skandino
Thanks man.. but when it comes to how explaint the genres..... what's stoner, drone, or sludge? xD

I know it's kinda difficult question... but I hope someone can answer
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24.01.2008 - 22:25
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Tage Westerlund
Written by X-Ray Rod on 24.01.2008 at 21:56

Thanks man.. but when it comes to how explaint the genres..... what's stoner, drone, or sludge? xD

I know it's kinda difficult question... but I hope someone can answer



I leave you whit this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sludge_metal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_doom

Here are stoner doom

''Stoner doom often refers to traditional doom bands who incorporate more psychedelic elements into their music, to varying degrees. It is often viewed as a hybrid of doom metal and stoner rock, and is sometimes termed stoner metal. This music traces its roots back to the psychedelic side of early Black Sabbath, particularly songs such as "Sweet Leaf". Examples include Electric Wizard, Sleep, Acid King, Acrimony, Goatsnake and Sons of Otis.''

I would say its lil blusy sound of it southern blues, souther life style, proudness about slavery, it makes US sout states diferent and it all makes blues and blues made stoner
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24.01.2008 - 22:39
X-Ray Rod
Skandino
Written by Bad English on 24.01.2008 at 22:25

Written by X-Ray Rod on 24.01.2008 at 21:56

Thanks man.. but when it comes to how explaint the genres..... what's stoner, drone, or sludge? xD

I know it's kinda difficult question... but I hope someone can answer



I leave you whit this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sludge_metal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_doom

Here are stoner doom

''Stoner doom often refers to traditional doom bands who incorporate more psychedelic elements into their music, to varying degrees. It is often viewed as a hybrid of doom metal and stoner rock, and is sometimes termed stoner metal. This music traces its roots back to the psychedelic side of early Black Sabbath, particularly songs such as "Sweet Leaf". Examples include Electric Wizard, Sleep, Acid King, Acrimony, Goatsnake and Sons of Otis.''

I would say its lil blusy sound of it southern blues, souther life style, proudness about slavery, it makes US sout states diferent and it all makes blues and blues made stoner


Thanks man, Now i got the picture ^^
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26.01.2008 - 18:05
Syk
myspace/bonerama
Written by X-Ray Rod on 24.01.2008 at 21:43
Can someone tell me what's "Stoner", "Sludge", "Drone"?
Stoner has references to psychedlic rock and I think is often laid-back, a good example being post-1992 Cathedral - listen to "Earth Messiah" on this Myspace if you can, or watch their video for "Midnight Mountain" in Metal Storm's youtube video section

Sludge usually actually sounds dirty, and can have a hardcore influence in terms of intensity in the performance. See Neurosis, Cult Of Luna or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQkTQIN_5Fk

Drone I think is quite minimalistic in both the instruments it uses and the melodic/harmonic ideas it develops, and could have electronic ties and usually sound slow but don't quote me on that. I don't think I've heard any for myself
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I would say its lil blusy sound of it southern blues, souther life style, proudness about slavery, it makes US sout states diferent and it all makes blues and blues made stoner
What the fuck.
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26.01.2008 - 21:16
X-Ray Rod
Skandino
Thanks man!!!
It now more clear to me ^^
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28.01.2008 - 01:36
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Tage Westerlund
Written by X-Ray Rod on 26.01.2008 at 21:16

Thanks man!!!
It now more clear to me ^^


In www.doom-metal.com are a lot of songs for listening try tham and about Cathedral try also Electric Wizard boath are werry good stoner bands
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30.01.2008 - 16:26
Ur-Nammu
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Stoner and sludge often overlap. Bands like Down fall into both categories (well, more stoner to me, but some call them sludge). The area of sludge where bands like Neurosis reside tends towards post-metal and is more experimental and atmospheric.

And the debate about stoner being stoner metal or stoner rock, well, many stoner bands dislike the word "metal" in classifying themselves. Once again, there's a lot of gray area between clearly stoner rock bands like Kyuss, and heavier stoner bands like the aforementioned Down. Personally, I'd say stoner tends more towards rock and sludge more towards metal, and there are a multitude of bands that lie in between.
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30.01.2008 - 20:30
BitterCOld
The Ancient One
Kudos, Syk, for dropping Cathedral.
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