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Buying by faith or by listening to the album first?



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Posted by Darth Satanious, 17.05.2006 - 03:54
I wanted to know if people also buy, like me, albums by trusting a band. There are some bands of whom I have more than trust of the high quality of their works as to go to the store and buy their albums right away. As a matter of fact, I am thinking of going to the store and picking Slayer's new album (after their EP of course) without any hesitation. Not only for a new release of Slayer I would do that, but for several other bands which I perceived as if they have a "winning formula" that does not allow them to put a record that can be considered less than good.

Also, at times I go with the opinions of other Metalheads and I venture myself into buying albums of genres that I like very much. Of course, I need to see that this band is praised a lot by the people liking them and that they give reasons for liking them so much. Then I try to listen to some songs from the band and if they are good I decide to buy the album. Up until now this strategy hasn't failed me.

Then, there are those who have to listen to the whole album before deciding to spend any money in them.

I would say that I do a little of all the strategies I mentioned above. It all depends of the circumstances. None, of them has failed me yet, except for one time in which I bought this crappy album for this crappy band but let us forget that now. lol

Now, how do you decide to buy albums? Do you go blindly to the store to buy them or are you really cautious in what you spend your money?
06.06.2008 - 19:32
Conservationist
I download the full album, and listen. No sense putting more plastic in a landfill if I don't need to. I've avoided buying many albums that would have interested me for a few days and then become trash, that way.
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06.06.2008 - 19:45
owl
I always listen first, no matter what band we're talking about.

Ever since I bought Metallica's Load by faith as soon as it came out, so convinced was I that it would be at least as good as the Black album, I never bought anything without knowing what it was first.
Biggest letdown ever, won't happen again.
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06.06.2008 - 22:11
Piro
Depends... If I see an album at the store that is on sale, for lets say $5-$10 , I'll give it a quick spin at the record shop, preview it, just to make sure it isn't complete crap, and then buy it. I also trust certain bands, and will simply buy the CD because I have faith in the band.

Of course, there are times where this comes down to bad luck, for example, when I bough Crescendo by Daeonia. Eww, I honestly have never heard a worse band. Ok, ok, except for emo bands...
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07.06.2008 - 02:30
sq_xeper
It totally depends, if you're a fan of a band you'll totally buy the record right away, for example, i bought Fiction from Dark Tranquillity the minute it was on stores in my country i didnt want to listen it first because i had read a lot of reviews and they all said it was a terrific album so i bought despite of the price (it was really expensive back then). I would totally buy by faith some new records of my favourite bands but of course i always read the reviews first, and there's also some albums that i listen them first and then i make my own opinion if i want to buy it or not if its really worth it
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07.06.2008 - 18:40
Freezer
90% of the times I listen to it first, I hate spending money on "crap" XD
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13.09.2008 - 13:19
deathovertime
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I always listen to at least a few songs from a particular album first. There have been several times where I've bought albums by faith, but these are only by bands that I know and love. So it's half and half in a way for me.
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13.09.2008 - 21:32
Øyvind
Grave Digger
Written by Guest on 13.09.2008 at 21:05

I've got a sixth sense for picking out good music. One of my best blind buys was "Unhealthy Opera" by Yyrkoon. I had never heard of them before and I didn't know what music they play. "Unhealthy Opera" just sounded good to me.

And of course I discovered Rammstein the same way.


I know what you mean, I often use the same method. For instance, I discovered Ensiferum, Amon Amarth, Sigur Ros, Dimmu Borgir and Nargaroth just because the band names/album names sounded interesting. I don't buy original CDs too often though (quite expensive for my budget), but when I do buy them I buy a CD from a band I know I like. I did make some exceptions, like when I bought W.A.S.P.-Unholy Terror and Emigrate (Richard Kruspe's solo project), bought them just like that, without any previous knowledge. Wasn't too impressed by any of the two albums.
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13.09.2008 - 22:03
AiwiAstwihad
AiryanaKhvarenah
Written by Øyvind on 13.09.2008 at 21:32

Written by Guest on 13.09.2008 at 21:05

I've got a sixth sense for picking out good music. One of my best blind buys was "Unhealthy Opera" by Yyrkoon. I had never heard of them before and I didn't know what music they play. "Unhealthy Opera" just sounded good to me.

And of course I discovered Rammstein the same way.


I know what you mean, I often use the same method. For instance, I discovered Ensiferum, Amon Amarth, Sigur Ros, Dimmu Borgir and Nargaroth just because the band names/album names sounded interesting. I don't buy original CDs too often though (quite expensive for my budget), but when I do buy them I buy a CD from a band I know I like. I did make some exceptions, like when I bought W.A.S.P.-Unholy Terror and Emigrate (Richard Kruspe's solo project), bought them just like that, without any previous knowledge. Wasn't too impressed by any of the two albums.

me too (though i double-check it by looking up some lyrics )...it works 99.99% but made a mistake once (hadn't checked lyrics) and it was "As I Lay Dying" it happened Cus i was attracted by the band's name rooted in a fascination to death actually!!!
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14.09.2008 - 00:18
Mynor Kauffmann
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Hi, Im new here, what I can tell you as a band member is that is hard someone just buy your album without hearing it, now with the internet you must show first what you have and then wait to see if people enjoys what you do, and then see if they want the original material.

We are a band fros Central Amerca, and believe me, there's no other way to show your music than giving it for free. At least in places outside Guatemala.

So... download it... here is our album.
SILENT POETRY - http://rapidshare.com/files/136577828/SILENT_POETRY_-_SILENT_POETRY.rar

http://www.myspace.com/silentpoetryofficial





Cheers!!
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14.09.2008 - 10:46
AiwiAstwihad
AiryanaKhvarenah
Written by Guest on 13.09.2008 at 23:24

Written by AiwiAstwihad on 13.09.2008 at 22:03

me too (though i double-check it by looking up some lyrics )...it works 99.99% but made a mistake once (hadn't checked lyrics) and it was "As I Lay Dying" it happened Cus i was attracted by the band's name rooted in a fascination to death actually!!!


Ooooo, big mistake. Haha. I usually avoid bands with more than two words in the name (preferably one of those words is "The").

good idea...
i actually expected something like:
"no one ever wins...no one finally loses...except the dead...under the sun, they rot togrther, with absolute biological equality"

anyway i think i deserve death penalty for that mortal mistake
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14.09.2008 - 11:10
AiwiAstwihad
AiryanaKhvarenah
Written by Guest on 14.09.2008 at 10:50

Written by AiwiAstwihad on 14.09.2008 at 10:46

good idea...
i actually expected something like:
"no one ever wins...no one finally loses...except the dead...under the sun, they rot togrther, with absolute biological equality"

anyway i think i deserve death penalty for that mortal mistake


Coward! The only sufficient punishment is listening that which you paid for.

Those lyrics are familiar, but I can't place them....

what? what? Coward?...Now it's you who deserves death penalty (by fire squad)
i actually paid with my time Cus i downloaded that !!!

that was from the beggining of a video by The Berzerker, though i can't remember the name.
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14.09.2008 - 12:00
LeChron James
Helvetesfossen
buying in faith definitely has its downsides. i'd prefer to read a review then go from there. listening to it before hand spoils it for me.
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14.09.2008 - 12:06
AiwiAstwihad
AiryanaKhvarenah
Written by Guest on 14.09.2008 at 11:31

Oh right, "No One Wins" from "Dissimulate".

I have all of As I Lay Dying's discography, so dual flying-through-the-air pistol firing squad may be my only redemption...

hahaha...so i was talking to fan?!?! should've watched my mouth!!!
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14.09.2008 - 12:28
AiwiAstwihad
AiryanaKhvarenah
Written by Guest on 14.09.2008 at 12:19

Written by AiwiAstwihad on 14.09.2008 at 12:06

hahaha...so i was talking to fan?!?! should've watched my mouth!!!

Well, no actually, I just have it. You know......free music.


BTW, you just reached 500 posts and can choose a Custom title
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14.09.2008 - 18:17
LostSoul
Fave band's cd's bying by faith. But some newer not so familiar bands I shall just call some of my friends
and ask what they like or read review. But listening beforehand totally spoils the fun of a new cd...
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15.09.2008 - 10:59
Mynor Kauffmann
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Written by Guest on 14.09.2008 at 09:43

Hahahah, maybe I'm not kidding; as soon as I tried to download it my internet died.

Round 2....


Glad to know you download it man, thanks for the comments, we will try to upload it in another page.

Keep Metal!!
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15.09.2008 - 16:14
VPeter
Listing it first if it is a new band or a band who changes much. Devin Townsend is an example for me where I buy with faith, since he never made an bad album.
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19.10.2008 - 19:50
Deadmeat
Necrobutcher
Early I bought everything I heard it was good. Now I'll buy only Kreator albums by faith and all the others after listening, only if I believe that they worth much...
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21.10.2008 - 13:44
Yossarian
Hi,

I have bought a lot by faith and I have not failed mostly in choosing. Before Internet was popular and during a period while I was attending university in another province and I did not have metalhead friends, I just read some reviews in metal related magazins and catalogues in metal labels to know the style and similarities to bands I knew.
Then I went to a music shop in Granada, Spain and bought 3 cd,s taking into account all the knowledge I got from magazines...In a Reverie from Lacuna Coil, Projector from Dark Tranquillity and "Sleep of the Angels" from Rotting Christ. I have never done such a great buying in my whole life.

I did that before buying vinyls and I was not so fortunate. I like many bands then that have not stood the passing of years. I will not mention them for respect.

I have to thank you for your web now, since I have found around 50 bands whose existence I ignored before and your reviews, band similarities and the "band who like this band also like" have been most helpful. Fuck me, I did not know Before the dawn, Candlemass and I have now included in my favourites.

My recommendation is listening them before. Sometimes you can be lucky, sometimes not... and music is not cheap. Thanks God -Steve Harris- for the Internet.
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30.09.2009 - 02:12
ToMegaTherion
It depends I will normally have a pretty good idea of the albums I would like to get a hold of for my collection wether or not I have heard them before. With some success, otherwise I have have success with album cover that I have liked.
Most of Opeth's work I bought on faith; but then, the more albums of theirs I bought the more comfortable I felt about buying them having never heard them before.
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30.09.2009 - 10:39
Ellrohir
Heaven Knight
I am currently often buying "by faith"...and so far i wasnt really disappointed in any case
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30.09.2009 - 10:45
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Elite
Written by Ellrohir on 30.09.2009 at 10:39

I am currently often buying "by faith"...and so far i wasnt really disappointed in any case



I mostly buy by faith as well (from internet distros, when in a physical shop I listen to the album first) and have only been disappointed a couple of times. But then again, so what? It makes life more interesting when you take chances imo.
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30.09.2009 - 10:46
Ellrohir
Heaven Knight
So far, so good. So what?
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30.09.2009 - 10:47
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Elite
Written by Ellrohir on 30.09.2009 at 10:46

So far, so good. So what?


I preordered that one at the time. And that was before Internet so totally no chance of having heard a note of it before it was released
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30.09.2009 - 11:05
GamlaSonn
I always listen to them first, either at home or at the store. Chance my ass!
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30.09.2009 - 19:16
Derwood
When I was a teenager working at McDonald's, before the internet ever existed and when I wasn't helping my family hunt mammoths, every payday meant a trip to the local record store where I would buy 10 albums because I then got an eleventh free, getting 300-400 albums a year. So I bought a lot on faith because a band named sounded cool or I liked the cover art. These were the pre-historic days when vinyl ruled the metal landscape, when cassettes were on the rise and the CD evolved only at the end of this period, displacing the mighty LP. This went on for three years

I discovered a lot of bands I would later come to like this way. I had Heathen's first album on vinyl, unheralded Canadian thrash band Sacirifice...hell, I discoverd Metallica this way because Kill Em All was a cool album title.

On the other hand, I probably spent $5,000 or so on utter crap that only ever got one listen, if I finished the album in the first place. Now that I have bills to pay, I can't afford to do that, so I download any album I'm thinking about buying first. If I like it, I buy it (when I can find it!), if I don't, I delete it. I don't think it's much different than listening to the radio when i do it this way, only I have complete control of the programming.

I'm a big believer in financially supporting the bands I like and buy their albums. I'm also a total merch whore when I go to a show. However, I don't believe in paying for stuff I don't really want.
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30.09.2009 - 19:47
Haddonfield
Chucky's Bride
I've been dissapointed to many times in the past just to go out and buy an album without listening to it before hand.
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30.09.2009 - 19:58
Valaskjalf
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I rarely buy albums on gut feel...there's a couple of bands who I probably would buy an album from before I listened to it but 95% of the time I download it first and make a judgement call. Thing is, here in South Africa we have terrible music stores who hold a couple of shelves for "metal" and the powers that be decide which "metal" to bring to the shops so you get a crapload of AC/DC, Slipknot, Otep and shit like that - hardly any metal. Once in a while you get stuff like the new Amorphis as "special import" but then it costs like $35US and Im sure as hell never paying that much for an album.....hence I import most of my albums from Amazon and Take2 (local site).

So by paying import prices, sometimes shipping costing as much as the album itself I cant buy on impulse. I unfortunately have to pirate - BUT if I like an album I downloaded I do everything I can to go out and buy it, so no harm done.
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06.10.2009 - 21:51
BitterCOld
The Ancient One
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Three years later and still pretty much the same response.

still buy some artists based solely on faith - they have earned my trust through the years.

some bands i buy upon faith based upon what other MS staff adn users ahve to say.

i have taken advantage of technology to try and give some artists a listen and see if they are worth picking up.

like Derwood above me, i, too, spent too much in the past on albums that didn't make the cut, and with mortgage, bills, and other fun stuff, as well as too many cd's i know will be decent to buy, i honestly cannot remember the last CD i just picked up and bought because the cover looked interesting. those days are over.
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06.10.2009 - 22:34
Jan
It varies, I usually check reviews, but if I know and like the band, I often take the chance.

Unknown bands I usually check out on myspace first.
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