Pedantic Marcel's Top 100 Of 2000-2009
| Written by: | Marcel Hubregtse |
| Published: | 14.12.2009 |
After long deliberation, rolling of die, countless bottles of Lagavulin and Stolychnaya, Cohiba cigars I have come to the following top 100 for the past decade.
Have a look at it, be baffled, cry your eyes out, swear your head off, or just shake your head in total disbelief.
Oh yeah before you continue reading... I want to say that no splits, demos, re-releases, compilations, ep's, 7"'s or live recordings were included. Just full-lengths.
So here it is:
Marcel's Top 100 of 2000-2009
1. Warning - Watching From A Distance
2. Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
3. Primordial - To The Nameless Dead
4. Process Of Guilt - Erosion
5. Negura Bunget - OM
6. Deathspell Omega - Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice
7. Neurosis - Given To The Rising
8. Burst - Origo
9. Gojira - From Mars To Sirius
10. Alchemist - Austral Asian
11. Enslaved - Isa
12. Shining - IV: The Eerie Cold
13. Mastodon - Remission
14. Melechesh - Emissaries
15. Today Is The Day - Sadness Will Prevail
16. Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
17. Enslaved - Below The Lights
18. Skepticism - Farmakon
19. Agalloch - The Mantle
20. Queens Of The Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf
21. Exodus - Tempo Of The Damned
22. Wolves In The Throne Room - Two Hunters
23. Strapping Young Lad - Strapping Young Lad
24. Death Angel - The Art Of Dying
25. Nevermore - Dead Heart In A Dead World
26. Meshuggah - Nothing
27. Mayhem - Ordo Ad Chao
28. Esoteric - Subconcious Dissolution Into The Continuum
29. Leviathan - Tentacles Of Whorror
30. Enslaved - Monumension
31. Hollenthon - With Vilest Of Worms To Dwell
32. Textures - Drawing Circles
33. Mournful Congregation - The Monad Of Creation
34. Opeth - Blackwater Park
35. Emperor - Prometheus: The Discpline Of Fire & Demise
36. Lurker Of Chalice - Lurker Of Chalice
37. Watain - Casus Luciferi
38. Evoken - Quietus
39. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God
40. Mourning Beloveth - Dust
41. Primordial - The Gathering Wilderness
42. The Angelic Process - Weighing Souls With Sand
43. Revelation - Release
44. Officium Triste - Reason
45. Xasthur - The Funeral Of Being
46. Thorns - Thorns
47. Corrupted - El Mundo Frio
48. Funeral Mist - Salvation
49. Baroness - Red Album
50. Khanate - Things Viral
51. Devin Townsend - Terria
52. Shining - III: Självdestruktivitetens Emissarie
53. Satyricon - Volcano
54. Alchemist - Organasm
55. Mar De Grises - Draining The Waterheart
56. Ondskapt - Draco Sit Mihi Dux
57. Drudkh - Autumn Aurora
58. Mar De Grises - The Tatterdemalion Express
59. Krux - Krux II
60. While Heaven Wept - ...Of Empires Forlorn
61. Orodruin - Epicurean Mass
62. Reverend Bizarre - So Long Suckers
63. Mourning Beloveth - The Sullen Sulcus
64. Forest Stream - Tears Of Mortal Solitude
65. Dolorian - Dolorian
66. Immortal - Sons Of Northern Darkness
67. Katatonia - Viva Emptiness
68. Indesinence - Noctambulism
69. Thee Plague Of Gentlemen - Primula Pestis
70. Umbra Nihil - Gnoia
71. Astrofaes - For Those Whose Past Is Immortal
72. Shape Of Despair - Angels Of Distress
73. The Funeral Orchestra - Feeding The Abyss
74. Jack Frost - Wannadie Songs
75. Asunder - Works Will Come Undone
76. Worship - Dooom
77. Aldebaran - Dwellers In Twilight
78. Wreck Of The Hesperus - The Sunken Threshold
79. Keen Of The Crow - Hyborea
80. Morgion - Cloaked By Ages, Crowned In Earth
81. Solitude Aeturnus - Alone
82. Reverend Bizarre - In The Rectory Of The Bizarre Reverend
83. Mirror Of Deception - Foregone
84. Mournful Congregation - The June Frost
85. Yakuza - Way Of The Dead
86. Ahab - Call Of The Wretched Sea
87. Candlemass - King Of The Grey Islands
88. Deinonychus - Deinonychus
89. Khanate - Khanate
90. The Lord Weird Slough Feg - Atavism
91. Krieg - The Black House
92. Shape Of Despair - Illusions Play
93. Yob - The Illusion Of Motion
94. Earth - HEX: Or Printing In The Infernal Method
95. Place Of Skulls - The Black Is Never Far
96. Wijlen Wij - Wijlen Wij
97. Wyrd - Huldrafolk
98. After Forever - Decipher
99. Tool - Lateralus
100. Anaal Nathrakh - Eschaton
Of course my tastes differ immensely from som other staffers. Thos can be checked out here: Bas, BitterCOld, Darkside Momo, Doc Godin, jupitreas, dismaleuphony, The One Who Can't Count To A 100 (The MSer Formerly Known As Lucas)
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| Stigmatized .......... Posts: 3820 From: USA  |
Pretty solid list. I think #44 should be higher though. Oh, and #3 shouldn't be anywhere near that high. 
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| Paradox0 Unasuming Madnes Posts: 592 From: USA |
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Posts: 40071 From: The Netherlands  |
Written by Stigmatized on 14.12.2009 at 21:38 You been talking to Pétur? 
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996 
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| Stigmatized .......... Posts: 3820 From: USA |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.12.2009 at 21:52 Who?
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Posts: 40071 From: The Netherlands |
Written by Stigmatized on 14.12.2009 at 21:53 The MS-inhouse Dutch big Primordial hater who calls himself a pagan and likes sissy-assed happy happy folk metal
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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| Stigmatized .......... Posts: 3820 From: USA |
No idea who that that is so it's safe to assume I haven't been talking to him.  I like Primordial, just not as much as you do it seems.
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Posts: 40071 From: The Netherlands |
Written by Stigmatized on 14.12.2009 at 21:59 Tastes differ, thank God. Or else it would be a very boring world indeed. Btw check pout Bas' top 100 he just posted and have a guess who he's a fanboy of 
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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| Stigmatized .......... Posts: 3820 From: USA |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.12.2009 at 22:04 Indeed. Haha, yeah. Tastes differ though.
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| TheBigRossowski Posts: 1355 From: Germany  |
Pretty good list, man!
---- That rug really tied the room together, did it not? 
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| Elio Red Nightmare Posts: 4920 From: Italy  |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.12.2009 at 21:52 I often talk to him but I still love that album. Would made my top20 for sure too. btw some very good stuff, and a bunch of albums I haven't heard as doom metal isn't really my fav genre.
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Posts: 40071 From: The Netherlands |
Written by Paradox0 on 14.12.2009 at 21:51 Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors did cross my mind for a second, but left it out. As for Unexpect... I never like what they do. Quote: I love thee Hail Of Bullets album to bits. But decided to leave it because it is actually just recylcing really old death metal with Asphyx influences. Quote: I love old Katatonia and find Viva Emptiness to be by far thier best most emotional and varied album of the new era Katatonia which is marred by wishy washy albums all of which contain filler songs (except for Viva Emptiness that is) Quote: Underrated?  That's the first time I hear anyone call it that. And in my experience loads of people seem to be able to grasp it.
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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| Unconsecrated Perpetual Ascent Posts: 868 From: Turkmenistan  |
Ziyadah seems a little out of place in that list eheh
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| VPeter Posts: 1450 From: The Netherlands  |
Written by Stigmatized on 14.12.2009 at 21:38 Dude, you're stealing my line >=[ And Marcel, I'm disapppoint... I expected your list to suck way harder. Sure there is awful crap like Primordial, Deathshit Omega, Shining, Watain, Reverend Bizarre. But I expected way more... >=[
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Posts: 40071 From: The Netherlands |
Written by Unconsecrated on 14.12.2009 at 22:41 Crap yeah... by about 7 years
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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| Glabrezu Posts: 107 From: Switzerland  |
I think it's an interesting list, even if I know only 14 of the 100 albums of last decade that you prefer. It's strange that exactly other 14 of this discs are from bands that are in my future interests or bands of whom I listened to other stuff. I think you have a very great knowledge of the metal scene, so I will try to check for bands that at the moment I'm ignoring (there are too many and I need time to check them all...) Maybe I'm going to do my own list 
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| Stigmatized .......... Posts: 3820 From: USA |
Written by VPeter on 14.12.2009 at 22:48 Ah, you're the aforementioned Pétur. Sorry for stealing said line.
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| InnerSelf proofread free Posts: 2641 From: Germany  |
Pretty decent list I am convinced but I haven't heard your #1 sure I will check it I would have included Saturnus and where is StS in your list it is very known that you
---- He who is not bold enough to be stared at from across the abyss is not bold enough to stare into it himself.
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| X-Ray Rod Skandino Posts: 18274 From: Sweden  |
What the fuck with Primordial... I never got the hype over that band, very meh to my tastes... And well, you know what I have to say about Esoteric... I say it again though. It should be in the first place or even higher if that is even possible. But I'm very glad overall with your list as it seems like we have similar tastes. I was surprised to see Things Viral in such a high place such as 51 since I've heard/read too much bashing about that album and I do think that album is absolutely BRILLIANT and I want to hear it fucking LOUD if I have the opportunity to be alone at home. I also surprised with Xasthur and Opeth. I mean, I remember I read somewhere that you were giving some good opinions about Subliminal Genocide but I didn't think that you liked them enough to put one of Malefic albums in such a list... Same goes to Opeth, I never really saw you on the Opeth thread so that's why I thought you had some "Meh" feelings about the band. I kinda disagree with Burst having such a high place... They are good but not extremely good. Dopethrone is fucking amazing too! I was really glad to see them there, what a great track Funeralopolis is... Last thing: 7. Neurosis - Given To The Rising That maded me smile too, what a crushing experience it was when I first heard that album a couple of years ago, at that time I never thought that I would love such kind of metal... Everytime I hear it I still feel inspired and want to listen to more metal that is crushing.
---- Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Posts: 40071 From: The Netherlands |
Written by X-Ray Rod on 15.12.2009 at 22:11 If you had been on MS for a couple of years longer you would have known I like a lot of Xasthur stuff As for Opeth, quite a few people are surprise I have one Opeth album in my top 100 but I don't hear anyone go on about After Forever
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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| X-Ray Rod Skandino Posts: 18274 From: Sweden |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 15.12.2009 at 22:39 Yeah, I don't really know why that surprised me that much. I just thought that Malefic was way too pretentious in your opinion .Damn I just own Defective Epitaph and it's a good/ok-at-times album but from what I've heard, Malefic has done better... The real drums was a big improvement though. The cello was also a nice touch. Lol yeah.. the first thing I noticed was After Forever.
---- Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Posts: 40071 From: The Netherlands |
Written by X-Ray Rod on 15.12.2009 at 22:47 I never found anything to be pretentious about Malefic's music whatsoever. And I can't judge on the guy himself since I have never read an interview him or met him.
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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| X-Ray Rod Skandino Posts: 18274 From: Sweden |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 15.12.2009 at 22:51 That's the stupid part I was talking about, I just thought that you didn't like [for example] Xasthur because reading most of your comments, looking at your collection or even because of your age [no offense] I thought that Xasthur was too "Meh" for you I can't even understand myself anymore.
---- Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
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| jupitreas hi-fi / lo-life Posts: 6659 From: Poland  |
Nice list Marcel, albeit a bit too doom-heavy. But then again, ever since you renewed your passion for doom, it is hardly surprising you would lean in this direction for this list. You generally have good taste in metal, a taste that I have grown to depend on more often than not. With this said, we made these lists to bitch at each other all in the name of good fun so I have decided to comment on a few of your choices 1. Warning - Watching From A Distance I don't get what is so great about this album. Maybe it requires for the listener to be over 30? 2. Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale Obviously I agree with this wholeheartedly, definitely one of the masterpieces of the decade. 7. Neurosis - Given To The Rising I think this is one of the most overhyped albums of the decade actually. It is, to me at least, very mediocre compared to Neurosis' output in the 90s. It also seems almost like a sellout album since they were getting soft and then decided to be abrasive once again in a somewhat uncomfortable way (to these ears), perhaps to appease the fans. 14. The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity' Dillinger definitely deserves a place in this list but IMO Miss Machine is the more worthy disc. Calculating Infinity sounds too embryonic, whereas Miss Machine realised their vision. 21. Queens Of The Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf I definitely agree that this belongs on this list, but 21 is a bit high. 24. Strapping Young Lad - Strapping Young Lad I find this album to be too straightforward. It also has slightly over-compressed mastering, which is always an ear-sore. SYL is a unique band but this is simply a very well executed extreme/thrash album. 25. Death Angel - The Art Of Dying I didnt like this album at all, what can I say? 31. Enslaved - Monumension Like QOTSA, I think this is a bit too high. Below The Lights is of course better, but IMO Mardraum is also better. But I see we agree that post-BTL Enslaved is inferior. 35. Opeth - Blackwater Park With Neurosis, the most overhyped album of the decade. Its simply boring as fuck. 100. Tool - Lateralus We both agree that it needs to be on this list but obviously not the position This album is just so impressive IMO, I am curious what made you rate it so 'low'.
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| X-Ray Rod Skandino Posts: 18274 From: Sweden |
I just wana say: Neurosis' last album is amazing so I want Jupitreas to shut the hell up! And the iamge I get from the band doesn't seem like an image coming from a band that actually cares about please the fans.. just making what they want to make. But... I do agree on what Jupi said about Warning, I found it very good... but 1 of the decade? No way, I would put it like on the 40-30 or something. and Blackwater Park IS overhyped as fuck and I think that the albums before that one beat the crap out of Blackwater Park any day of the week.
---- Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
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| Darkside Momo Retired Posts: 9087 From: France  |
Written by X-Ray Rod on 15.12.2009 at 23:24 Yeah Given to the Rising is great, but some of their 90' stuff is still better imo. but maybe different. As to call it sell out like Jupi said, I really don't think so.
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| X-Ray Rod Skandino Posts: 18274 From: Sweden |
Written by Darkside Momo on 15.12.2009 at 23:30 Of course that some of their 90' stuff is better! but that doesn't matter if we are talking about the best albums of this decade. And the two previous that are from this decade are good but not as good as Given To The Rising.
---- Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Posts: 40071 From: The Netherlands |
Written by jupitreas on 15.12.2009 at 23:18 I remember it being one of your top albums of 2007 So that means you have changed your mind quite a bit about it.And yes maybe one has to be over 30 to fully appreciate it, like Craig said: I have a greater sense of loss and regret... and that sense of loss and regret only increases with the years. This album truly epitomizes that for me. After having played the album till death since its release it is still growing on me, so it is probably safe to say that currently this album is the single greatest piece of metal art ever created for me.
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Posts: 40071 From: The Netherlands |
@Jups my problem with Miss Machine is that they try to be too much Faith No Morish at times. As for Neurosis I find their other 90s stuff way too mellow and meandering. SYL - SYL, shame City was from 90s else that one would have been in the top without a doubt. I saw you had Alien in there and to me that one is way too one-dimensional till the point of almost being boring. And it is just like SYL, also over-compressed and to my ears even more annoyingly so than SYL The reason I put Tool - Lateralus that low is that after i's initial impact the album faded like a candle in the night. And tbh it only made it in because originally I had a 1993 release in there Lateralus is an album although musically great I just don't play anymore.As for all the Blackwater Park naysayers (yes you too Mr Doctor) this is where it all came together finally for me. I like what they did before BWP but there was something missing there.
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Posts: 40071 From: The Netherlands |
Written by jupitreas on 15.12.2009 at 23:18 I have Isa way higher, so I don't get this remark.
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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| jupitreas hi-fi / lo-life Posts: 6659 From: Poland |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 16.12.2009 at 01:02 So you do, must have had a brain fart there.
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