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This is not only the best post 2000 Traditional Doom Album IMO it is the best Traditional Doom Album EVER. And currently it is the best metal album ever for me.
The pain, the beauty, the emotions, how much of this can a grown man take? Well, in my case at least three servings of this daily. |
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"Watching from a Distance" is a fantastic album. I checked it out after reading Marcel and Lucas both pining on and on and on and on about it... it lived up to their hype.
the band plods along, glacially, setting a gloomy (doomy) mood - it's tight and sounds good. i like the production, particularly on the drums. they do a great job in spacing the riffs to develop the somber atmosphere, setting the table for Pat's vocals.
the vocals themselves take a slight bit of getting used to, kinda like Ozzy in a sense, but they are so wrought and wracked with the emotions of sorrow, ultimate loss, and failure that they just haunt the listener.
a staggeringly grand album.
great review as well. |
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I'm glad to this album... This was one of first Doom experiences which was very nice..
And the thing that hold my attention is the vocals.. Those vocals are very nice.. |
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The vocals are very unique indeed... and hard to get into.
But the riffs are sooooo good and crushing. I will check this out  |
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| Indeed one of the best traditional doom bands ever and one of the best traditional doom albums ever! |
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| this album is so amazing.. at first I could only take the title track but the despairing feel brought me back to the rest of the album. Grows on you, and as said above it can be hard to get into. Love his vocal style |
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| I'm the only one that thinks that this is overrated? |
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 Elio - 26.02.2009 at 17:45
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Written by Talvi on 29.01.2009 at 14:08
I'm the only one that thinks that this is overrated?
Nope  |
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| I don´t know if this the best doom album ever, but I know,:thumbup: that is the best doom album I have ever heard |
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| This album simply can't be recommended enough.... soul crushing doom! |
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| "It makes so much out of so little" - probably the best description I've read for this album. It does get a little tedious and dragging because you're basically hearing the same thing throughout, the same depressing chords with not a whole lot of variation, but it's not about that. The sheer epic-depressive quality, accompanied by some very unique vocals, make this album one of the strongest in doom. |
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Written by Elio on 26.02.2009 at 17:45
Written by Talvi on 29.01.2009 at 14:08
I'm the only one that thinks that this is overrated?
Nope
If you take on a cold approach, devoid of the emotional side of music (which you have every right to do of course), you will conclude that this album is boring, monotonous and tedious.
But the key to it is its emotional impact, which makes it so good. |
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| One of the few doom metal albums i enjoy. |
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| Not THAT much of a traditional doomster, i prefer grunts n' screams, i'll give it a spin and hopefully more! |
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Written by DerRozzengarten on 17.09.2010 at 17:40
Not THAT much of a traditional doomster, i prefer grunts n' screams, i'll give it a spin and hopefully more!
It's not really traditional doom, closer to funeral doom, or at least quite slow doom, with traditional vocals. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 17.09.2010 at 20:34
Written by DerRozzengarten on 17.09.2010 at 17:40
Not THAT much of a traditional doomster, i prefer grunts n' screams, i'll give it a spin and hopefully more!
It's not really traditional doom, closer to funeral doom, or at least quite slow doom, with traditional vocals.
this sounds better, hope the voice will be as good as it has to or more so as to equal or even surpass my need for woeful and heart-rending grunts |
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Written by DerRozzengarten on 17.09.2010 at 20:46
this sounds better, hope the voice will be as good as it has to or more so as to equal or even surpass my need for woeful and heart-rending grunts
Yep, it's quite gruntless! The vocals are pretty much based around the Ozzy kind of sound. A lot of people find it annoying and whiny but I've never had a problem with it. I suppose you might do though  it's quite OTT at times (though not in a Messiah way). |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 17.09.2010 at 20:47
Written by DerRozzengarten on 17.09.2010 at 20:46
this sounds better, hope the voice will be as good as it has to or more so as to equal or even surpass my need for woeful and heart-rending grunts
Yep, it's quite gruntless! The vocals are pretty much based around the Ozzy kind of sound. A lot of people find it annoying and whiny but I've never had a problem with it. I suppose you might do though it's quite OTT at times (though not in a Messiah way).
I don't like Ozzy, i don't like Black Sabbath, i'm an unorthodox doomster, a respectless 90s/00s doom child (with a few trad exceptions, Reverend Bizarre, Candlemass and such) |
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Written by DerRozzengarten on 17.09.2010 at 20:53
I don't like Ozzy, i don't like Black Sabbath, i'm an unorthodox doomster, a respectless 90s/00s doom child (with a few trad exceptions, Reverend Bizarre, Candlemass and such)
Yeah same here if I'm honest. I don't really listen to Sabbath although I find it quite tolerable. Candlemass is pretty much the only pre-90's metal band I listen to on a regular basis. Modern metal is always best =J |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 17.09.2010 at 20:56
Written by DerRozzengarten on 17.09.2010 at 20:53
I don't like Ozzy, i don't like Black Sabbath, i'm an unorthodox doomster, a respectless 90s/00s doom child (with a few trad exceptions, Reverend Bizarre, Candlemass and such)
Yeah same here if I'm honest. I don't really listen to Sabbath although I find it quite tolerable. Candlemass is pretty much the only pre-90's metal band I listen to on a regular basis. Modern metal is always best =J
And then Marcel breaks in and we have two chopped heads with our ears sodomized by Witchfinder General |
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Written by DerRozzengarten on 17.09.2010 at 21:11
And then Marcel breaks in and we have two chopped heads with our ears sodomized by Witchfinder General
I am indeed expecting that =P |
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No, I won't. i'll just let you two ignorant kiddies be
btw witchfinder general is okay, nothing great or such. Imo even quite overrated. |
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| Marcel's heart is still vivid, although in doomy tempo, it still beats for us kidd(->n)(e)y (failures) |
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Yes, indeed 
btw, looking at my doom collection I think it is equal parts grunt/extreme sludge/stoner clean vocals/traditional/epic |
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| The fair jugge dredd of doom metal |
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Written by Elio on 26.02.2009 at 17:45
Written by Talvi on 29.01.2009 at 14:08
I'm the only one that thinks that this is overrated?
Nope
+1
I only find the first song interesting (even quite brilliant), but the rest is so boring, I can't sit through 3 minutes of it. |
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Written by Slayer666 on 18.09.2010 at 10:06
Written by Elio on 26.02.2009 at 17:45
Written by Talvi on 29.01.2009 at 14:08
I'm the only one that thinks that this is overrated?
Nope
+1
I only find the first song interesting (even quite brilliant), but the rest is so boring, I can't sit through 3 minutes of it.
Dudes, this album is without doubt a doom masterpiece. If you can't sit through more than the first 3 minutes than you don't know doom metal. |
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Written by Carl Berg on 18.09.2010 at 18:43
Written by Slayer666 on 18.09.2010 at 10:06
Written by Elio on 26.02.2009 at 17:45
Written by Talvi on 29.01.2009 at 14:08
I'm the only one that thinks that this is overrated?
Nope
+1
I only find the first song interesting (even quite brilliant), but the rest is so boring, I can't sit through 3 minutes of it.
Dudes, this album is without doubt a doom masterpiece. If you can't sit through more than the first 3 minutes than you don't know doom metal.
Nah, man, I like a lot of Doom Metal. But I can't understand what is so good about this particular album. Sure, the first song is one of the best I've heard in this genre, but the rest are too much alike and offer nothing more. Basically, the entire album can be easily replaced with just the first song, IMO. |
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Written by Slayer666 on 20.09.2010 at 15:45
the entire album can be easily replaced with just the first song, IMO.
That's a common feature in many MANY metal bands |
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| True. It's called consistency |
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Written by Slayer666 on 20.09.2010 at 15:45
Written by Carl Berg on 18.09.2010 at 18:43
Written by Slayer666 on 18.09.2010 at 10:06
Written by Elio on 26.02.2009 at 17:45
Written by Talvi on 29.01.2009 at 14:08
I'm the only one that thinks that this is overrated?
Nope
+1
I only find the first song interesting (even quite brilliant), but the rest is so boring, I can't sit through 3 minutes of it.
Dudes, this album is without doubt a doom masterpiece. If you can't sit through more than the first 3 minutes than you don't know doom metal.
Nah, man, I like a lot of Doom Metal. But I can't understand what is so good about this particular album. Sure, the first song is one of the best I've heard in this genre, but the rest are too much alike and offer nothing more. Basically, the entire album can be easily replaced with just the first song, IMO.
If I might ask... What doom bands do you like? Since you say you like a lot of doom. Sometimes it helps when people name the doom bands they do like to see where they are coming from. |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.09.2010 at 21:43
Written by Slayer666 on 20.09.2010 at 15:45
Written by Carl Berg on 18.09.2010 at 18:43
Written by Slayer666 on 18.09.2010 at 10:06
Written by Elio on 26.02.2009 at 17:45
Written by Talvi on 29.01.2009 at 14:08
I'm the only one that thinks that this is overrated?
Nope
+1
I only find the first song interesting (even quite brilliant), but the rest is so boring, I can't sit through 3 minutes of it.
Dudes, this album is without doubt a doom masterpiece. If you can't sit through more than the first 3 minutes than you don't know doom metal.
Nah, man, I like a lot of Doom Metal. But I can't understand what is so good about this particular album. Sure, the first song is one of the best I've heard in this genre, but the rest are too much alike and offer nothing more. Basically, the entire album can be easily replaced with just the first song, IMO.
If I might ask... What doom bands do you like? Since you say you like a lot of doom. Sometimes it helps when people name the doom bands they do like to see where they are coming from.
Early Katatonia is my absolute number one, followed by Nortt, Funeral, Tales of Dark (very, very good Goth/Death Doom from Serbia), My Dying Bride, Thegrothon and my recent favorites, Esoteric and Arcana Colestia. There is more, but that would sum it up pretty well. |
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Written by Slayer666 on 22.09.2010 at 15:33
Early Katatonia is my absolute number one, followed by Nortt, Funeral, Tales of Dark (very, very good Goth/Death Doom from Serbia), My Dying Bride, Thegothorn and my recent favorites, Esoteric and Arcana Colestia. There is more, but that would sum it up pretty well.
Mmm, I don't know Tales Of Dark, will have to check them out.
But seeing those other names (with My Dying bride I hope you mean old MDB and not the last two , same for Funeral btw.) I can udnerstand your problems with Warning.
You probably also have problems with most of Candlemass and other epic doom bands. |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 22.09.2010 at 15:35
Written by Slayer666 on 22.09.2010 at 15:33
Early Katatonia is my absolute number one, followed by Nortt, Funeral, Tales of Dark (very, very good Goth/Death Doom from Serbia), My Dying Bride, Thegothorn and my recent favorites, Esoteric and Arcana Colestia. There is more, but that would sum it up pretty well.
Mmm, I don't know Tales Of Dark, will have to check them out.
But seeing those other names (with My Dying bride I hope you mean old MDB and not the last two , same for Funeral btw.) I can udnerstand your problems with Warning.
You probably also have problems with most of Candlemass and other epic doom bands.
True about MDB, not so true about Funeral.
Yeah, I can't stand Candlemass other than a song or two from "Epicus...". Or other epic doom. But Warning strikes me slightly more like Funeral Doom than Epic, excluding the vocals. |
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| I don't like Candlemass but this is brilliant! |
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| Amazing album. Normally I don't listen to doom apart from Katatonias first records but this is a masterpiece. The only weak point for me is the lyrics (kind of gay to me) but they make absolutely sense along with the music. |
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Personally, I can't stand this album for the life of me. It just drags on and on and never does anything for me. It's just long, boring and fails to be epic. It's just nothing. It's not really heavy, it's not really epic, it never actually goes anywhere, and ultimately it completely fails to keep my attention and totally puts me to sleep.
Same problem that Solstice has at times but much, much worse (Solstice is actually quite good if you're in the mood despite sections that drag on for far to long without adding anything). A lot (I'd even dare to say most) of funeral doom also has this problem.
This album is IMO just a bunch of generic nothingness. |
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Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 13.01.2011 at 18:12
Personally, I can't stand this album for the life of me. It just drags on and on and never does anything for me. It's just long, boring and fails to be epic. It's just nothing. It's not really heavy, it's not really epic, it never actually goes anywhere, and ultimately it completely fails to keep my attention and totally puts me to sleep.
Same problem that Solstice has at times but much, much worse (Solstice is actually quite good if you're in the mood despite sections that drag on for far to long without adding anything). A lot (I'd even dare to say most) of funeral doom also has this problem.
This album is IMO just a bunch of generic nothingness.
Dude, if you want to say something just come right out and say it! |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 13.01.2011 at 18:21
Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 13.01.2011 at 18:12
Personally, I can't stand this album for the life of me. It just drags on and on and never does anything for me. It's just long, boring and fails to be epic. It's just nothing. It's not really heavy, it's not really epic, it never actually goes anywhere, and ultimately it completely fails to keep my attention and totally puts me to sleep.
Same problem that Solstice has at times but much, much worse (Solstice is actually quite good if you're in the mood despite sections that drag on for far to long without adding anything). A lot (I'd even dare to say most) of funeral doom also has this problem.
This album is IMO just a bunch of generic nothingness.
Dude, if you want to say something just come right out and say it!
Okay: The album sucks! |
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Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 13.01.2011 at 18:22
Okay: The album sucks!
Oh, that's where you were going with it. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 13.01.2011 at 18:23
Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 13.01.2011 at 18:22
Okay: The album sucks!
Oh, that's where you were going with it.
Yeah, that's the contents of what I wrote too... |
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Wow, for some reason I had no idea these guys recorded more than a demo or two.
I've heard their Blessed by the Sabbath demo and love Nightmare Bride.
I'll have to see if CD World can order this one for me. |
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| This review didn't really tell much about the album, But because it really sparks my interest I'm going to check it out. |
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Omg! This album is total crap. Worthless neverending repetitive boredom, hell i am sick while listening to it, unbelievable. Considering overall very high rating and recommendations, i must be missing something...
Isn't it just childish hour-long exercise of tonal progeressions?
At least I finally discovered something fully deserving "worst ever" rating. |
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vezzy - 31.01.2011 at 19:34
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Written by Cryzpin on 31.01.2011 at 11:59
At least I finally discovered something fully deserving "worst ever" rating.
May I please direct you to Thrash Queen... |
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Written by Cryzpin on 31.01.2011 at 11:59
i must be missing something...
Yeah... Taste |
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Written by vezzy on 31.01.2011 at 19:34
Written by Cryzpin on 31.01.2011 at 11:59
At least I finally discovered something fully deserving "worst ever" rating.
May I please direct you to Thrash Queen...
An all female thrash metal with feminist lyrics? Well, not sure i am ready for such masochism  but thanks for suggestion anyway. |
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vezzy - 01.02.2011 at 10:28
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Written by Cryzpin on 01.02.2011 at 10:23
Written by vezzy on 31.01.2011 at 19:34
Written by Cryzpin on 31.01.2011 at 11:59
At least I finally discovered something fully deserving "worst ever" rating.
May I please direct you to Thrash Queen...
An all female thrash metal with feminist lyrics? Well, not sure i am ready for such masochism but thanks for suggestion anyway.
They aren't thrash, buddy.
The debut, at least. |
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I take back everything I ever said about this album. Here, before you, my fellow MS members I eat my words with two pounds of shit. I must have been having some serious problems while listening to it for the first 10 times, but after that... a startling revelation. This is, indeed, a mesmerizing, crushing masterpiece. Just when you think that you'll drown in the sorrowful, thick distortion, Patrick comes in with his wailing vocals and pushes you down completely...
It still falls a bit short of my favorite Doom release, Dance of December Souls, but it's definitely up there with the best Doom I've heard. |
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