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Great review... couldn't agree more. Jeroen's playing is so creative on this record and is the highlight. Everything comes together perfectly.
Paying homage to the earlier stuff yet done in a way which none could call unoriginal.
Exceptional technical death album. |
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About time a review on this went up.....thanks, its an excellent album. Noospheres is the only weak track imho. Listened to this album loads of times over the last couple of months and I keep picking up on things I haven't noticed before! Great variety on here. I agree with the review, the bands influences are quite clear but I'm already looking forward to the followup to this when they will hopefully hone their own sound. great musicianship, great variety, great songs....'nuff said!
Centric Flow is a great album closer, the riff in the second half of the song stuck in my head for ages after I heard it! |
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Written by Bigpaul on 16.06.2009 at 23:24
Great variety on here.
Centric Flow is a great album closer, the riff in the second half of the song stuck in my head for ages after I heard it!
i totaly agree with those 2 things you said. this album is great but i've not heard it so much till now. so when i'll finish it's listening i'll come back!!! nice review btw but it should say imo that about variety. this album is one of the most "unboring" albums i've ever heard cause it has a great variety. no same-style songs... and this is too fucking important nowadays when we see many bands repeating themselves in every song... |
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Anticosmic Overload is "a quite generic death metal tune?" Either the whole genre has missed my ears or you're out of your mind. That song is so not generic and it's so much more than just death metal. It's so captivating that no wonder why they put it up as track 1. And I actually think that it's the best song on the album.  |
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Galar - 17.06.2009 at 07:41
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They also remind me of Death and Cynic. I thought about that since the first listen. But with all those recognizable sounds there, they still managed to do their thing and put out a very good album.
It's powerful and, I must say, after a few listens, catchy. Very headbangable and air-guitar possibilities everywhere. I really like the vocals and the lyrical compositions as well.
Obscura won me over with this album, it's certainly one of the best albums of the year I listened to so far and from a genre I have been neglecting. It's good to be back. |
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Elio - 17.06.2009 at 11:16
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| It's not original anymore but still kicks ass. I agree with Marcel, the bass is quite surely the best played instrument in this album and probably gives something more in terms of quality. |
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Nice review... Although I dislike the fact that you picked on Necrophagist.
It's not like "if you like this band your an asshole and cannot like great bands".
Awesome music though. But I see must of the technical metal as something awesome for the first hour then it turns boring. Although this band is kinda interesting. |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 17.06.2009 at 13:56
Nice review... Although I dislike the fact that you picked on Necrophagist.
It's not like "if you like this band your an asshole and cannot like great bands".
I picked on Necrophagist cause they loose sight of proper song structures and go off into wanking territory and are there just to show off. I didn't say " "if you like this band your an asshole and cannot like great bands". I merely said if you really dig Necrophagist you will probably not be too fond of Obscura. Because Obscura is about proper song writing and not wanking  |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 17.06.2009 at 14:11
I merely said if you really dig Necrophagist you will probably not be too fond of Obscura. Because Obscura is about proper song writing and not wanking
That's what I'm talking about! It's not like that! It's not like just for listening to necrophagist you're a dude that just likes guitarr pornography. That's just stereotype tbh. [although I've seen dudes like that so I dig what you're saying]
In any case... I see Tech Death pretty much as prog metal... good music but not a single drop of emotions. And then those dues tell me that Doom is boring as fuck... |
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Written by K†ulu on 17.06.2009 at 07:18
Anticosmic Overload is "a quite generic death metal tune?" Either the whole genre has missed my ears or you're out of your mind. That song is so not generic and it's so much more than just death metal. It's so captivating that no wonder why they put it up as track 1. And I actually think that it's the best song on the album.
Maybe "generic" is too strong a word in this context. But what I meant was that it is quite a standard technical death metal song and by far not as interesting as the other songs on Cosmogenesis. |
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| Lol Marcel, could your nose be any further planted in Jeroen's rectum? Sounds like you have a crush on the man |
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Written by jupitreas on 17.06.2009 at 15:05
Lol Marcel, could your nose be any further planted in Jeroen's rectum? Sounds like you have a crush on the man
Hahahaha you should see my arm instead I will take a picture of it and send it to you.
But I see what you mean, all this lavish praise on his bass playing. But as anyone who has heard this album can attest to the bass playing is actually the strongest point of the album, and he does blow so-called bass gods right out off the water  |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 17.06.2009 at 14:19
In any case... I see Tech Death pretty much as prog metal... good music but not a single drop of emotions. And then those dues tell me that Doom is boring as fuck...
I disagree, tech death can hold some emotion. It may be more subtle because of the complex instrumentation but emotions are there nonetheless. It's more a question of taste, i'm not a big fan of doom, i find it drags on and if it could get any slower my heart would probably stop beating. I like music that gives me a heart attack lol. Though i really like bands like Pelican, Isis, Baroness... life is complicated.
anyways good review, i was impressed by the cd on the first few listens really good songwriting and EMOTION put into the songs. the production is crystal clear but the problem is the lack of heaviness and this is the only thing that turned me off. |
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Written by Visioneerie on 17.06.2009 at 18:12
Written by Mr. Doctor on 17.06.2009 at 14:19
In any case... I see Tech Death pretty much as prog metal... good music but not a single drop of emotions. And then those dues tell me that Doom is boring as fuck...
I disagree, tech death can hold some emotion. It may be more subtle because of the complex instrumentation but emotions are there nonetheless. It's more a question of taste, i'm not a big fan of doom, i find it drags on and if it could get any slower my heart would probably stop beating. I like music that gives me a heart attack lol. Though i really like bands like Pelican, Isis, Baroness... life is complicated.
anyways good review, i was impressed by the cd on the first few listens really good songwriting and EMOTION put into the songs. the production is crystal clear but the problem is the lack of heaviness and this is the only thing that turned me off.
We agree to disagree and that's fair enough for me .
I mean... sure I do understand why the genre is praised and I love the songwritting. I just happen to pick other genres more often  |
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Great review. Cosmogenesis is a great album. Not my favorite of the year, but in the top 5, so far... and it's growing on me with every listen. The first time I gave it a run through, it seemed to end abruptly and I thought, "is that it? I need to listen to it again." And I did just that.
You were dangerously close to overusing the word "wank" in all its various forms, but just when I thought I couldn't take anymore, you ceased. Whether intentional or by accident, your usage was masterful.
Yep. |
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Written by Visioneerie on 17.06.2009 at 18:12
the problem is the lack of heaviness and this is the only thing that turned me off.
you are absolutely right but i guess that it's the production that "creates" this problem as it makes the blastbeats and generally the fast moments much more neutral than extreme... |
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nb - 17.06.2009 at 22:53
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| I like this stuff, sounds great. |
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| I also hate the first track - it's just boring and unoriginal. The album gets better as it goes on, but I don't seem to be as impressed as most people seem. Not surprising since I normally hate prog/tech death, but for some reason I thought it would be better. |
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Written by Dangerboner on 19.06.2009 at 02:59
I also hate the first track - it's just boring and unoriginal. The album gets better as it goes on, but I don't seem to be as impressed as most people seem. Not surprising since I normally hate prog/tech death, but for some reason I thought it would be better.
I wasn't impressed either. It's a solid album, but nothing extraordinary. |
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Written by Stigmatized on 19.06.2009 at 06:18
but nothing extraordinary.
You can't deny the bassplaying is something else on this album. Hell, non-one currently even comes close in death metal |
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| I'm no musician, but I would say that Erlend Caspersen at least comes close, but that's off topic. Besides the bass playing, I really enjoy the melodic side they show later on the album, which you also mentioned before, but I still think they tried to play too fancy. |
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Written by Dangerboner on 23.06.2009 at 09:41
... but I still think they tried to play too fancy.
And that is where I totally disagree cause I felt that they tried to keep it quite simple and not show off too much, unlike a lot of bands operating in this genre. |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.06.2009 at 11:48
Written by Dangerboner on 23.06.2009 at 09:41
... but I still think they tried to play too fancy.
And that is where I totally disagree cause I felt that they tried to keep it quite simple and not show off too much, unlike a lot of bands operating in this genre.
agree here. Incarnated is for example a great MELODIC song but it must be from what i can understand one of the easiest on the album musically... |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.06.2009 at 02:12
Written by Stigmatized on 19.06.2009 at 06:18
but nothing extraordinary.
You can't deny the bassplaying is something else on this album. Hell, non-one currently even comes close in death metal
Obviously the bass playing is good, but for whatever reason it didn't jump out at me. |
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Written by Dangerboner on 23.06.2009 at 09:41
... but I still think they tried to play too fancy.
I agree. It probably because I don't really listen to a lot of this stuff, but it kinda bores me. I don't really understand how bands like Dream Theater can be considered musically wankery and this isn't. And I'm not really fond of the growls either. |
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| Could of sworn that I commented on this album, guess not. I'm not usually a fan of technical death metal slbums, but this one blew me away. The one song that really stood out to me is Orbital Elements, it's one of the best instrumental tracks I've heard. It actually has great substance too it. I know there are a lot of good instumental tracks out there, but I dont consider there to be too many excellent ones, but I definitly think Orbital Elements hits the excellent mark. |
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| Well now that i've completed the listening of this album i have to say that it is a great effort from a new band. it shows that they have the potential to reach very high standards. imo this album is almost a 10... i'd like it to "sound" more aggressive... |
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Galar - 16.09.2009 at 06:02
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| Today I listened a lot of tech death metal, so I gave a try to this album and I found it very enjoyable, not all songs are good, but the lyrics are cool and as Marcel said, the bass guitar plays a nice role and it's not just a secondary instrument. I think that with 8 songs it could be a great listen. I didnt't find it perfect, but maybe the next album will kickass even more than this one. |
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| Album of the year so far. |
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| Oh shit. This is good stuff! |
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For me it is the best Death metal album for this year and NOT Nile's overrated FWTGD
the bass playing captured my attention and the way the instrument put is in the production is perfect
not an average album it is something realy beyond |
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| Yeah fuck, this kicks ass still. Also very enjoyable for selfplaying. |
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| Such a great album. The atmosphere sometimes reminds me of Decrepit Birth-Diminishing between worlds. |
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| One of my favorite albums. |
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What can I say about this album? It's full of energy, just what you need in a fucking good metal album. The bass is second to none, and the vocalist is great! This CD sums up exactly how I like my metal. Fast, heavy and full of pure energy!! If they continue to make better releases than this, then this band are guna do seriously well. This band is capable of a lot !  |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 17.06.2009 at 14:19
In any case... I see Tech Death pretty much as prog metal... good music but not a single drop of emotions.
That's how I see Death Metal in general. And the reason why I prefer Thrash and Black Metal a hundred times over Death Metal. I never liked DM, apart from a few very rare exceptions. The fact that I hate growls in general really doesn't help either. |
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| My only problem with this album the the lack of creating any sort of brutal sound, which is why I think Retribution is a little bit better, some of the guitar riffs from the previous album sound similar to something Death would do, which is cool too. Both Retribution and Cosmogenesis are amazing albums though. |
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| Curious to know if any of you still listen to this. I burnt out on it early last year and haven't put it on since. |
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Written by wormdrink414 on 25.02.2011 at 10:56
Curious to know if any of you still listen to this. I burnt out on it early last year and haven't put it on since.
I think I only listened to it once or twice in 2010. Sometimes if I shuffle my Zune a song will come on and I usually listen to it right to the end - for me the songs still have a lot of energy and aggressiveness. I remember when I first listened to it, I was floored. I'd probably give it an 8/10 as opposed to a 8.5 now. |
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"But I am sure that come next album the influences will have diminished almost totally."
i feel that this is the best thing said on this review as i am listening to the new songs and comparing them with the songs of the previous album... |
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"But beware... if you prefer instrumental wankery where all sight of a proper song is lost such as Necrophagist" Lol, my favorite part of the review because I've always thought this and could rarely find anyone else who agreed with me. Its not that Necrophagist plays "bad" music, its just that I could never really listen to it. Yea, it has a lot of notes, but in Necrophagist's case, it doesnt really compliment the music very much. At least in my opinion.
I really disagreed with some of the comments on this haha. Prog/Tech Death not having enough emotion? Necrophagist or mathcore may have very little emotion, but real prog/tech death bands I would completely disagree. |
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