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Lol metalcore indeed....
Have to say I'm rather in disagreement mode with you recently m'boy. I find this and the recent Burzum to be pleasantly listenable little numbers, far better than some this year. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 16.11.2011 at 20:39
I find this and the recent Burzum to be pleasantly listenable little numbers, far better than some this year.
You, the master of all things underground/obscure/experimental/extreme. You continue to surprise me Joe.  |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.11.2011 at 21:07
You, the master of all things underground/obscure/experimental/extreme. You continue to surprise me Joe.
Truth be told I'm a big nu-metal fan, I grew up with it and frankly don't understand how people don't see the fun in it and all it brings. What I like about DevilDriver is how Dez took that fun element that's found in nu-metal and injected it into a more extreme style that results in that great, danceable and emphatic pseudo-heaviness that's present here. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 16.11.2011 at 21:11
...that's present here.
I was on board with all of the above until this. I didn't find this fun at all. This and Pray For Villains are in my opinion incredibly bland albums. |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.11.2011 at 21:13
I was on board with all of the above until this. I didn't find this fun at all. This and Pray For Villains are in my opinion incredibly bland albums.
For me it's the oddly lauded 'The Fury of Our Maker's Hand' that I like the least. It tried to be too much and lost that childlike simplicity. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 16.11.2011 at 21:16
For me it's the oddly lauded 'The Fury of Our Maker's Hand' that I like the least. It tried to be too much and lost that childlike simplicity.
Once again we prove to the world that even fans of similar music still disagree on everything. |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.11.2011 at 21:18
Once again we prove to the world that even fans of similar music still disagree on everything.
I disagree! |
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| You mentioned Nickleback in your review. Again. I'm begging to think you've a serious case closet-fandomness. |
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Written by Slayer666 on 16.11.2011 at 21:53
You mentioned Nickleback in your review. Again. I'm begging to think you've a serious case closet-fandomness.
The first time was because of the similarities sound-wise, this time only because I mentioned Roadrunner.  |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.11.2011 at 21:07
You, the master of all things underground/obscure/experimental/extreme. You continue to surprise me Joe.
It does seem to be a very rare thing to be "what you just said" but also not some elitist who bashes any metal which doesn't fall into those categories. Joe's attitude is definitely very unqiue and refreshing. |
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Written by Angelic Storm on 16.11.2011 at 22:18
Joe's attitude is definitely very unqiue and refreshing.
^_^ |
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I have to say I'm not into these guys at all. I saw them live a couple of times because of bands they were touring with and they sucked. At one show the singer was calling the audience pussies because we weren't thrashing about hard enough. I was thinking "fuck you, get off the stage so I can see Danzig already."
Oh yeah, and their music blows. It's way too tame and meant for a -dammit, I can't think of that mall store for "edgy" kids- audience. |
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Written by Yojimbo on 17.11.2011 at 02:01
Oh yeah, and their music blows. It's way too tame and meant for a -dammit, I can't think of that mall store for "edgy" kids- audience.
Hot Topic? Watch out for the kids walking out of there. They're tough. Bring Me The Horizon tough. |
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Written by Ceddybu on 17.11.2011 at 02:14
Written by Yojimbo on 17.11.2011 at 02:01
Oh yeah, and their music blows. It's way too tame and meant for a -dammit, I can't think of that mall store for "edgy" kids- audience.
Hot Topic? Watch out for the kids walking out of there. They're tough. Bring Me The Horizon tough.
Haha, yeah that's it. Thanks |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 16.11.2011 at 23:13
^_^
Haha, I just speak as I find.  |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 16.11.2011 at 20:39
Have to say I'm rather in disagreement mode with you recently m'boy. I find this and the recent Burzum to be pleasantly listenable little numbers, far better than some this year.
Agreed
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 16.11.2011 at 21:11
Truth be told I'm a big nu-metal fan, I grew up with it and frankly don't understand how people don't see the fun in it and all it brings. What I like about DevilDriver is how Dez took that fun element that's found in nu-metal and injected it into a more extreme style that results in that great, danceable and emphatic pseudo-heaviness that's present here.
And agreed here too. Nu-metal was the first form of metal I got into, t'was my "gateway drug" into real metal. There is a very youthful fun inducing groove that is inherent in a lot of nu-metal bands (or at least back when I was a nu-kid; I don't even know if nu-metal exists anymore outside of KoRn, lol)... |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 16.11.2011 at 20:39
Have to say I'm rather in disagreement mode with you recently m'boy. I find this and the recent Burzum to be pleasantly listenable little numbers, far better than some this year.
Agreed
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 16.11.2011 at 21:11
Truth be told I'm a big nu-metal fan, I grew up with it and frankly don't understand how people don't see the fun in it and all it brings. What I like about DevilDriver is how Dez took that fun element that's found in nu-metal and injected it into a more extreme style that results in that great, danceable and emphatic pseudo-heaviness that's present here.
And agreed here too. Nu-metal was the first form of metal I got into, t'was my "gateway drug" into real metal. There is a very youthful fun inducing groove that is inherent in a lot of nu-metal bands (or at least back when I was a nu-kid; I don't even know if nu-metal exists anymore outside of KoRn, lol)... |
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Written by psykometal on 17.11.2011 at 04:30
I don't even know if nu-metal exists anymore outside of KoRn, lol)...
Limp Bizkit and Sevendust are both active as far as I know. |
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| I agree 100% with your review, but what's up with these reviews lately of albums that have been out for months? |
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Written by BlueMobius on 17.11.2011 at 07:44
I agree 100% with your review, but what's up with these reviews lately of albums that have been out for months?
I just felt like reviewing some popular albums that haven't been reviewed by our Staff already. That way when 2012 rolls around (and the 2011 Awards) people aren't all Y U NO REVIEW DIS BAND WIF 200 VOTES and whatnot. |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 17.11.2011 at 07:46
Written by BlueMobius on 17.11.2011 at 07:44
I agree 100% with your review, but what's up with these reviews lately of albums that have been out for months?
I just felt like reviewing some popular albums that haven't been reviewed by our Staff already. That way when 2012 rolls around (and the 2011 Awards) people aren't all Y U NO REVIEW DIS BAND WIF 200 VOTES and whatnot.
Gotcha. I had seen the Scar Symmetry, Burzum and Within Temptation reviews and was like, "uh wtf, why are they bringing up these releases nobody cared about." lol |
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The first time I listened to this. I liked the first half of it. Songs like "Dead To Rights", "Hardened" and "Shitlist" are really good. But all that is followed up with the aptly titled "You Make Me Sick" which conjures up images of P!nk in that flattering bed of roses. And then it gets really boring..really fast. I still find myself continously going back to "Dead To Rights". I love the song.
Oh, and "But, typical of most Roadrunner releases, its edges have been sanded down and the suggestions box is covered in cobwebs, making for a very structured, formulaic, generic, boring listen."? Lol |
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Written by BudDa on 17.11.2011 at 08:38
Oh, and "But, typical of most Roadrunner releases, its edges have been sanded down and the suggestions box is covered in cobwebs, making for a very structured, formulaic, generic, boring listen."? Lol
I've never been a fan of Roadrunner. Earlier today I was at their website looking at their list of "highlighted artists". What a joke roster that is. |
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BudDa - 17.11.2011 at 08:50
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 17.11.2011 at 08:42
I've never been a fan of Roadrunner. Earlier today I was at their website looking at their list of "highlighted artists". What a joke roster that is.
Well, Mastodon is on their list..and while I haven't yet listened to their new album, I don't think it would be that bad |
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Written by BudDa on 17.11.2011 at 08:50
Well, Mastodon is on their list..and while I haven't yet listened to their new album, I don't think it would be that bad
There's an exception to every rule. 
PS go listen to it, even I liked it |
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BudDa - 17.11.2011 at 09:01
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 17.11.2011 at 08:52
There's an exception to every rule.
PS go listen to it, even I liked it
Deicide? |
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Written by BudDa on 17.11.2011 at 09:01
Deicide?
Not an exception.
Now go listen to Mastodon. |
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BudDa - 17.11.2011 at 09:06
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 17.11.2011 at 09:04
Not an exception.
Now go listen to Mastodon.
Shit, they are actually on Century Media. lol. Ok, Mastodon then. |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 17.11.2011 at 04:33
Written by psykometal on 17.11.2011 at 04:30
I don't even know if nu-metal exists anymore outside of KoRn, lol)...
Limp Bizkit and Sevendust are both active as far as I know.
3 examples of nu-metal bands that were good but all turned to shit when the nu-metal "revolution" started dieing down; yet they held out because even though they lost a lot of fans like me to real metal they still gained a lot of new teeny boppin' mallrunner fans. I'll still go back and listen to these band's older stuff from 90s and turn of the century but nothing newer than about 2001. Limp Bizkit's Significant Other still gets occasional play on the iPod because of it's nostalgic links to some very fond memories of my past. |
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Written by BudDa on 17.11.2011 at 09:06
Shit, they are actually on Century Media. lol. Ok, Mastodon then.
Deicide were on Roadrunner like 15 years ago. I'm not a fan of Mastodon at all but there is one song off of the new album I've heard a few times on Onslaught Radio that I thought was really good (can't recall the name) and makes me want to check out The Hunter. |
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Written by psykometal on 17.11.2011 at 16:14
Limp Bizkit's Significant Other still gets occasional play on the iPod because of it's nostalgic links to some very fond memories of my past.
I think a lot of nu metal, and even metalcore, works like that with fans who moved on from that kind of sound. They'll listen to the same stuff again for nostalgic purposes, but not usually for pure enjoyment factor. I listen to old DevilDriver still because I like their first three albums, but Beast and PFV are just not worth the time for me. |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 17.11.2011 at 20:02
I think a lot of nu metal, and even metalcore, works like that with fans who moved on from that kind of sound. They'll listen to the same stuff again for nostalgic purposes, but not usually for pure enjoyment factor. I listen to old DevilDriver still because I like their first three albums, but Beast and PFV are just not worth the time for me.
I'd have to agree. There is only one metalcore band I still follow because I feel that they are still releasing good material and that's As I Lay Dying, I honestly think they keep getting better (The Powerless Rise was awesome imo); otherwise no I don't really listen to metalcore much. As for enjoyment factor I would agree but I think your wording is a bit wrong/off, the nostalgia gives that music an enjoyment factor; I don't still listen to Limp Bizkit just because I want to remember a memory attached to it I honestly still enjoy it but only because it's nostalgic, if I were listening to Limp Bizkit for the first time today I would hate it.
As for DevilDriver the only album of theirs I ever really jammed frequently was the eponymous debut, I checked out the next 2 albums but never really jammed them much because by the time the 2nd had come out I had become a full on black metal fanboy and if it wasn't black metal I didn't really pay it much attention and now I've transitioned into death metal (especially tech death) so a band like DevilDriver doesn't even really register on my interest-o-meter these days.  |
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| Not the best album, but I didn't remember it as weak. |
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Actually it isn"t that bad, it just has the problem that the good songs are ruined by overlong intros
cut the first seconds off those songs:
(-7) Dead to Rights
(-20) Shitlist
(-45) You Make me Sick
(-19) Blur
(-24) Lost
(-20) Fortune Favors the Brave
and remove the ones not mentioned, maybe keeping Coldblooded as a filler track you"d get a really awesome (at least for DevilDriver standards) album |
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Truth be told I'm a big nu-metal fan, I grew up with it and frankly don't understand how people don't see the fun in it and all it brings. What I like about DevilDriver is how Dez took that fun element that's found in nu-metal and injected it into a more extreme style that results in that great, danceable and emphatic pseudo-heaviness that's present here.
i completely agree with this.....and even if you don't agree it's not like coal chamber had any impact on darkthrone's world. i would much rather hear mudvayne on the radio over katy perry. i am going to listen to korn now and bounce, bounce bounce....later i might close my self in my bedroom and listen to burzum and dakthrone (wondering if i should clarify the works of those two artists that i find most satisfying to embellish my integrity). |
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