Rating:
7.5
Vektor - Outer Isolation
22 November 2011


01. Cosmic Cortex
02. Echoless Chamber
03. Dying World
04. Tetrastructural Minds
05. Venus Project
06. Dark Creations, Dead Creators
07. Fast Paced Society
08. Outer Isolation


Oh shit, the Killjoy is reviewing a thrash metal album. Brace yourselves.

ADD-friendly review: This is not the worst album of the revivalist thrash movement I've come across.

In spite of my pseudo-crusade against anything revivalist, I admittedly found Vektor's Outer Isolation to be a clear step above the rest. Now, I compared these guys to Toxik when I first listened to the over-hyped debut, Black Future. They immediately built success off that sound, a highly technical form of thrash metal that even drew some appreciation from the prog crowd. Yet, people kept telling me how much more they had in common with Voivod, so I took a break and caught up with those old school thrashers.

Basically, if you listened to these guys before listening to Voivod and you didn't know Voivod is to thrash what Black Sabbath is to old folk's home, you'd think Vektor were being ripped off. Then you throw in Destruction, Coroner, Watchtower... all bands clearly miles ahead of Vektor, but all awesome bands. Which makes this awesome.

A proper review should focus more on the music than this, no? Well it's hard to focus on what's being presented here because it's all been done before and so much better. Ignoring the '80s and taking this for what it is (a contemporary thrash release), it's pretty cool shit. It's aggressive/progressive balls-to-the-wall-wrecking-your-neck-punishment-for-decadence. The problem is there is absolutely no identity. Like so many revivalist bands, it just makes you want to listen to the masters that did it better more than 20 years ago.

These are undoubtedly incredibly talented musicians capable of pulling off some of the most technical thrashing you've heard in the last decade. They write their songs with direction and magnitude (oh yeah!), the lengthier tracks refusing to wander around aimlessly; the shrieking vocals are pitched to perfection, almost spine-chillingly so; and the overall power keeps the album flowing without the stripped down heavy/power influence so many thrash metal outfits seem to be falling victim to.

If you're too lazy to check out thrash metal's golden years, then Vektor will help you re-live the past. If you're the "I read the book before it was a movie" kind of person, there isn't anything special going on here.

Performance: 9
Songwriting: 8
Originality: 4
Production: 7


Band profile: Vektor
Album: Outer Isolation


 



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Troy Killjoy - 04.12.2011 at 22:20  
Written by Deadmeat on 04.12.2011 at 22:16
ok. but just don't say that your review is positive. you take a flaw (in your opinion) of the band/album and keep on repeating it. there is no positivity.

My review is positive.

My overall score is positive.

My remarks about the band's abilities are positive.

The one negative thing about the album was repeated for, let's say "artistic purpose".

If you can't see that, you obviously didn't read the entire review.
Deadmeat - 04.12.2011 at 22:27  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 04.12.2011 at 22:18

Out of the 200+ albums I've listened to this year, maybe a dozen or so could be considered original. As in, worthy of more than a 6 in the originality department.

ok your review is positive. say it more times to believe it yourself.

as you are a staff member and not a "stupid asshole lurking on the net" i wonder how the fuck you can listen to 200 albums (or more) in a year and be fully able to understand them. how the f**k can you write reviews for albums you've listened only 1,2 or 5 times? this is extremely unprofessional, especially froma staff member as you are.
Marcel Hubregtse - 04.12.2011 at 22:31  
It is easily possible to listen to an album 5 times max and fully comprehend it. Almost no music whatsoever is so "deep" that more spins are needed.
Troy Killjoy - 04.12.2011 at 22:31  
Written by Deadmeat on 04.12.2011 at 22:27
ok your review is positive. say it more times to believe it yourself.

as you are a staff member and not a "stupid asshole lurking on the net" i wonder how the fuck you can listen to 200 albums (or more) in a year and be fully able to understand them. how the f**k can you write reviews for albums you've listened only 1,2 or 5 times? this is extremely unprofessional, especially froma staff member as you are.

Okay, now you're getting on my nerves.

I won't bother with the review comment because you're too thick-headed to understand anything.

How can I listen to 200 albums? I dunno, how can anyone? Let's see, I know off hand MechanisT, Ag Fox, Marcel, and myself have all listened to over 200 albums this year. Sorry you can't keep up?

And what is unprofessional about listening to an album 5 times in order to review it? You're reaching here guy. Your argument holds no weight.
Deadmeat - 04.12.2011 at 22:36  
Ok for me 2 or 5 times are ok to create an opinion about how you like an album and a general opinion. but to review it, someone should listen to it more and digest it deeper. and there are many bands and albums out there that need more than 5 spins...
Mr. Doctor - 04.12.2011 at 22:36  
Aaaaaaaah the unprofressional card, truly the most hilarious weapon a reader uses against the reviewer. I love it everytime I see it.
Troy Killjoy - 04.12.2011 at 22:39  
Written by Deadmeat on 04.12.2011 at 22:36
Ok for me 2 or 5 times are ok to create an opinion about how you like an album and a general opinion. but to review it, someone should listen to it more and digest it deeper. and there are many bands and albums out there that need more than 5 spins...

Is that what you're upset about now? I didn't listen to it enough?! I even listened to other bands just so I could comment on the similarities between this and a band like Voivod.

And trust me, this isn't one of those albums you need to listen to more than five times to "get". It's thrash metal. It's not like Shrek.
Deadmeat - 04.12.2011 at 22:42  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 04.12.2011 at 22:39

Written by Deadmeat on 04.12.2011 at 22:36
Ok for me 2 or 5 times are ok to create an opinion about how you like an album and a general opinion. but to review it, someone should listen to it more and digest it deeper. and there are many bands and albums out there that need more than 5 spins...

Is that what you're upset about now? I didn't listen to it enough?! I even listened to other bands just so I could comment on the similarities between this and a band like Voivod.

And trust me, this isn't one of those albums you need to listen to more than five times to "get". It's thrash metal. It's not like Shrek.

no, i saw yesterday your list and as you've mentioned that i said my opinion.

also believe me, some vektor songs need many listens to be fully digested unless you are the god...
Troy Killjoy - 04.12.2011 at 22:43  
Written by Deadmeat on 04.12.2011 at 22:42
also believe me, some vektor songs need many listens to be fully digested unless you are the god...

Oh do they? I didn't notice. I was too busy being reminded of the '80s.
Deadmeat - 04.12.2011 at 22:46  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 04.12.2011 at 22:43

Written by Deadmeat on 04.12.2011 at 22:42
also believe me, some vektor songs need many listens to be fully digested unless you are the god...

Oh do they? I didn't notice. I was too busy being reminded of the '80s.

you loose..
Troy Killjoy - 04.12.2011 at 22:49  
Written by Deadmeat on 04.12.2011 at 22:46
you loose..

What? You've gone from complaining about the originality score, the content in the review, how the review was written, my listening habits, and now how I can't seem to "grasp" the "complexity" of a revivathrash release... and you left with nothing.

I didn't realize we were playing to win, but by the sounds of you clutching at straws, I think I just racked up a W.
Deadmeat - 04.12.2011 at 22:53  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 04.12.2011 at 22:49

Written by Deadmeat on 04.12.2011 at 22:46
you loose..

What? You've gone from complaining about the originality score, the content in the review, how the review was written, my listening habits, and now how I can't seem to "grasp" the "complexity" of a revivathrash release... and you left with nothing.

I didn't realize we were playing to win, but by the sounds of you clutching at straws, I think I just racked up a W.

you didn't get what i meant but i think we can't discuss so let's leave it as it is...
Troy Killjoy - 04.12.2011 at 22:54  
Written by Deadmeat on 04.12.2011 at 22:53
you didn't get what i meant but i think we can't discuss so let's leave it as it is...

Fat & Sassy! - 05.12.2011 at 08:15  
As the dust clears, the rest of Metal Storm comes out of their shelters to gaze upon the wreckage. And thus, Troy and Deadmeat's long, doomed relationship came to end. It turned out that there was more pushing them apart than an ocean between them. Things may look gloomy now, but the future holds bright new opportunities for these once-lovers. Troy wipes a tear off his cheek, as he looks ahead to many more excellent reviews to be written. This journey has just begun.

The end. :3
Troy Killjoy - 05.12.2011 at 08:18  
Written by Fat & Sassy! on 05.12.2011 at 08:15
The end. :3

Maybe my next review will be in story format. Or I'll save it for my Dwellers of the Twilight review.
areida - 06.12.2011 at 02:01  
This thread has amused me to no end, but I now feel compelled to comment. Like with all Great Disputes Between Gentlemen I feel truth lies somewhere in the blasted landscape between Killjoy and the inimitable Deadmeat.

Is this a spankingly good release from a talented band? Yes, and the review acknowledges it as such. 75% is not a bad score. This isn't elementary school; no one is sending Vektor to bed without supper for getting a C, because that's not what 7.5 means. I'd call 3/4 stars a positive rating indeed.

Does Vektor owe much to Destruction and Voivod (and Emperor, at times)? Yes, and I bet they'd gladly acknowledge that. The rhythm tracks on Tetrastructural Minds and Fast-Paced Society would fit in perfectly on Killing Technology. Schmier's fingerprints are all over Dave's riffing and singing. Ihsahn is probably a little jealous of what Vektor was able to do in the black metal section of the title track.

The real argument here seems to be what the definition of originality is. Do you consider Quentin Tarantino original? He's made his career doing exactly what you accuse Vektor of: taking pieces of other's work and assembling them into a slick, fast-paced presentation. I have no problem with this, as by that analogy Outer Isolation is the Pulp Fiction of thrash.

There are no real answers here. I love this album, and have spun it up almost daily since September. I do think Troy is unwise to discount the originality from only a handful of playthroughs. The lyrics are something that no review I've read has touched on beyond "Space nerd sci-fi werds", yet songwriting is the standout feature of Vektor for me. I'm sometimes baffled by the well, frankly, poetry that David creates. I think anyone who hasn't needs to take a listen to this album with the full lyrics open. I guarantee there's treasures to be found.
Deadmeat - 06.12.2011 at 02:31  
Written by areida on 06.12.2011 at 02:01

I guarantee there's treasures to be found.

this band is all about treasures mate! in 2011 i haven't seen another young band creating so mature and beautiful music... (i've read a bit the lyrics but you've pushed me to do it even more now!)
bloodface - 06.12.2011 at 07:31  
Interesting.......the points in the review have me wanting to check this out. nothing wrong with derivative if it is well done.

i appreciate more of the thrash revival than most...one i do hate though is gamma bomb. horrible lyrics, liner notes, songs............unbelievably horrible. seems like a weird al yankovic approach without being funny, nostalgic, or sentimental.......piece of shit band. earache should be embarrassed for signing the air bags.

ugh...theri i go again wanting to say something positive and end up negative.
Troy Killjoy - 06.12.2011 at 07:32  
Written by bloodface on 06.12.2011 at 07:31
Interesting.......the points in the review have me wanting to check this out. nothing wrong with derivative if it is well done.

Indeed, and this is executed rather well. You'll probably enjoy it to be honest, especially if you're a fan of the current thrash resurgence.
bloodface - 06.12.2011 at 07:34  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 06.12.2011 at 07:32

Written by bloodface on 06.12.2011 at 07:31
Interesting.......the points in the review have me wanting to check this out. nothing wrong with derivative if it is well done.

Indeed, and this is executed rather well. You'll probably enjoy it to be honest, especially if you're a fan of the current thrash resurgence.

more of a fan than not of the thrash resurgence and a huge fan of voivod.
Troy Killjoy - 06.12.2011 at 07:35  
Written by bloodface on 06.12.2011 at 07:34
more of a fan than not of the thrash resurgence and a huge fan of voivod.

I think it's safe to say you'd definitely like this then.

It's probably the best thrash release of the year to be honest.
erikwithafro81 - 06.12.2011 at 10:17  
Hey folks, this is Erik from Vektor. Troy, thanks for the review! It was a slight disappointment (and put a little *sad face* on me) to see the overall score and originality score, but you were upfront and honest with what you heard, and I appreciate that immensely regardless. I'm sorry you don't feel that we bring anything new to the table though, it was tough hearing that hah. But we do aim for originality, despite your claim about it haha, but it's a tough feat to accomplish these days. Overall, you wrote a good review and I thank you for it!

And to those defending Vektor and our music I thank you as well for believing in our writing and capabilities, but let's lighten up on all of this. It was an honest review, however brutal, and it's refreshing to hear fair and cohesive criticism. Hats off to you Troy.

Also, to those inquiring about Demolition, we consider it a demo regardless of its overall running time. Anyway, I'm looking forward to being on here and hearing more feedback about the album, and I hope the rest of you are enjoying it!

-Erik
Troy Killjoy - 06.12.2011 at 10:22  
Written by erikwithafro81 on 06.12.2011 at 10:17
Hey folks, this is Erik from Vektor. Troy, thanks for the review! It was a slight disappointment (and put a little *sad face* on me) to see the overall score and originality score, but you were upfront and honest with what you heard, and I appreciate that immensely regardless. I'm sorry you don't feel that we bring anything new to the table though, it was tough hearing that hah. But we do aim for originality, despite your claim about it haha, but it's a tough feat to accomplish these days. Overall, you wrote a good review and I thank you for it!

And to those defending Vektor and our music I thank you as well for believing in our writing and capabilities, but let's lighten up on all of this. It was an honest review, however brutal, and it's refreshing to hear fair and cohesive criticism. Hats off to you Troy.

-Erik

Always nice to hear from the band. Thanks for the comment.

And while it wasn't the most positive review I've ever written, I'd still like to see what you guys come up with next.
erikwithafro81 - 06.12.2011 at 10:34  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 06.12.2011 at 10:22

Written by erikwithafro81 on 06.12.2011 at 10:17
Hey folks, this is Erik from Vektor. Troy, thanks for the review! It was a slight disappointment (and put a little *sad face* on me) to see the overall score and originality score, but you were upfront and honest with what you heard, and I appreciate that immensely regardless. I'm sorry you don't feel that we bring anything new to the table though, it was tough hearing that hah. But we do aim for originality, despite your claim about it haha, but it's a tough feat to accomplish these days. Overall, you wrote a good review and I thank you for it!

And to those defending Vektor and our music I thank you as well for believing in our writing and capabilities, but let's lighten up on all of this. It was an honest review, however brutal, and it's refreshing to hear fair and cohesive criticism. Hats off to you Troy.

-Erik

Always nice to hear from the band. Thanks for the comment.

And while it wasn't the most positive review I've ever written, I'd still like to see what you guys come up with next.

Well, we're always striving for new ideas, and you know what they say: "3rd time's a charm!" Haha, hopefully we can wow you with the next one!

Really though, thanks for the honesty. Constructive criticism only makes us want to work harder to better ourselves to outdo what we've done. We'll get you on board, all in due time my friend .

Do you at least have a favorite track that stands out, or any "great moments" from the album?
Milena - 06.12.2011 at 12:01  
Written by erikwithafro81 on 06.12.2011 at 10:17

Hey folks, this is Erik from Vektor. Troy, thanks for the review! It was a slight disappointment (and put a little *sad face* on me) to see the overall score and originality score, but you were upfront and honest with what you heard, and I appreciate that immensely regardless. I'm sorry you don't feel that we bring anything new to the table though, it was tough hearing that hah. But we do aim for originality, despite your claim about it haha, but it's a tough feat to accomplish these days. Overall, you wrote a good review and I thank you for it!

And to those defending Vektor and our music I thank you as well for believing in our writing and capabilities, but let's lighten up on all of this. It was an honest review, however brutal, and it's refreshing to hear fair and cohesive criticism. Hats off to you Troy.

Also, to those inquiring about Demolition, we consider it a demo regardless of its overall running time. Anyway, I'm looking forward to being on here and hearing more feedback about the album, and I hope the rest of you are enjoying it!

-Erik

You rule man. There's a lot of people who can't take a harsh review.
Daniell - 06.12.2011 at 16:04  
Written by Deadmeat on 04.12.2011 at 22:27

Written by Troy Killjoy on 04.12.2011 at 22:18

Out of the 200+ albums I've listened to this year, maybe a dozen or so could be considered original. As in, worthy of more than a 6 in the originality department.

ok your review is positive. say it more times to believe it yourself.

as you are a staff member and not a "stupid asshole lurking on the net" i wonder how the fuck you can listen to 200 albums (or more) in a year and be fully able to understand them. how the f**k can you write reviews for albums you've listened only 1,2 or 5 times? this is extremely unprofessional, especially froma staff member as you are.


Dude, don't be Vonpire 2.0. The fact that Troy rated the album lower than you doesn't mean that he didn't understand it. Neither does it mean that he is unprofessional.

If you liked the album a lot more, it's ok. But it's not ok to bash others for having a different opinion.
Mr. Doctor - 06.12.2011 at 16:24  
Written by erikwithafro81 on 06.12.2011 at 10:17
Hats off to you Troy.


Hats off to you too Erik, you can't imagine how great it feels when a band appreciates the reviews and are also perfectly mature about it. I highly enjoy when musicians are professionals when it comes to take criticism... Specially when they are far better at it that some of their fanboys.

While I agree with Troy's review I have to say that I did enjoy what I've heard so far. Keep the good stuff coming!
Deadmeat - 06.12.2011 at 18:14  
Written by Mr. Doctor on 06.12.2011 at 16:24

Written by erikwithafro81 on 06.12.2011 at 10:17
Hats off to you Troy.


Hats off to you too Erik, you can't imagine how great it feels when a band appreciates the reviews and are also perfectly mature about it. I highly enjoy when musicians are professionals when it comes to take criticism... Specially when they are far better at it that some of their fanboys.

While I agree with Troy's review I have to say that I did enjoy what I've heard so far. Keep the good stuff coming!

that's ok. i don't mind sounding extravagant if these guys are going to come here and show how respectful they are.

@daniell: i never did that for this purpose. generally i never cared for the rating of 7.5 (i never mentioned that) but only for some other aspects (which i mentioned of course).
Troy Killjoy - 06.12.2011 at 19:02  
Written by erikwithafro81 on 06.12.2011 at 10:34
Do you at least have a favorite track that stands out, or any "great moments" from the album?

My favorite songs are the opener and closer, which ties into what I thought was the album's greatest strength: long songs that don't lose their focus. It's obvious you guys spend some good quality time making sure 18 minutes' worth of music doesn't go to waste. And I think that's especially noticeable in thrash metal, regardless of who I think you're ripping off.
erikwithafro81 - 06.12.2011 at 19:45  
Written by Milena on 06.12.2011 at 12:01

Written by erikwithafro81 on 06.12.2011 at 10:17

Hey folks, this is Erik from Vektor. Troy, thanks for the review! It was a slight disappointment (and put a little *sad face* on me) to see the overall score and originality score, but you were upfront and honest with what you heard, and I appreciate that immensely regardless. I'm sorry you don't feel that we bring anything new to the table though, it was tough hearing that hah. But we do aim for originality, despite your claim about it haha, but it's a tough feat to accomplish these days. Overall, you wrote a good review and I thank you for it!

And to those defending Vektor and our music I thank you as well for believing in our writing and capabilities, but let's lighten up on all of this. It was an honest review, however brutal, and it's refreshing to hear fair and cohesive criticism. Hats off to you Troy.

Also, to those inquiring about Demolition, we consider it a demo regardless of its overall running time. Anyway, I'm looking forward to being on here and hearing more feedback about the album, and I hope the rest of you are enjoying it!

-Erik

You rule man. There's a lot of people who can't take a harsh review.


Written by Mr. Doctor on 06.12.2011 at 16:24

Written by erikwithafro81 on 06.12.2011 at 10:17
Hats off to you Troy.


Hats off to you too Erik, you can't imagine how great it feels when a band appreciates the reviews and are also perfectly mature about it. I highly enjoy when musicians are professionals when it comes to take criticism... Specially when they are far better at it that some of their fanboys.

While I agree with Troy's review I have to say that I did enjoy what I've heard so far. Keep the good stuff coming!

Thanks guys. It's tough to hear of course, as we put everything we had into this album. But in the end people are going to have different outlooks on what we do. I appreciate the negative side of Troy's review because it wasn't really bashing on us and calling us a shitty band. He was only explaining how he heard things from times past, but acknowledged that he did enjoy it and still said some really nice things about how good of players we are (thanks for that!) And with the next album we'll get Troy completely on board like I said haha.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 06.12.2011 at 19:02

Written by erikwithafro81 on 06.12.2011 at 10:34
Do you at least have a favorite track that stands out, or any "great moments" from the album?

My favorite songs are the opener and closer, which ties into what I thought was the album's greatest strength: long songs that don't lose their focus. It's obvious you guys spend some good quality time making sure 18 minutes' worth of music doesn't go to waste. And I think that's especially noticeable in thrash metal, regardless of who I think you're ripping off.

That's awesome that you dig the long ones, I honestly wasn't expecting that haha.

And Deadmeat, thank you as well for the defense, it's nice having fan support like that too.
Valaskjalf - 06.12.2011 at 20:33  
Written by Deadmeat on 04.12.2011 at 22:27

Written by Troy Killjoy on 04.12.2011 at 22:18

Out of the 200+ albums I've listened to this year, maybe a dozen or so could be considered original. As in, worthy of more than a 6 in the originality department.

ok your review is positive. say it more times to believe it yourself.

as you are a staff member and not a "stupid asshole lurking on the net" i wonder how the fuck you can listen to 200 albums (or more) in a year and be fully able to understand them. how the f**k can you write reviews for albums you've listened only 1,2 or 5 times? this is extremely unprofessional, especially froma staff member as you are.


Whoops Troy, I think you insulated him by giving his favorite band less than a 10....
Deadmeat - 06.12.2011 at 23:24  
Written by Valaskjalf on 06.12.2011 at 20:33

Written by Deadmeat on 04.12.2011 at 22:27

Written by Troy Killjoy on 04.12.2011 at 22:18

Out of the 200+ albums I've listened to this year, maybe a dozen or so could be considered original. As in, worthy of more than a 6 in the originality department.

ok your review is positive. say it more times to believe it yourself.

as you are a staff member and not a "stupid asshole lurking on the net" i wonder how the fuck you can listen to 200 albums (or more) in a year and be fully able to understand them. how the f**k can you write reviews for albums you've listened only 1,2 or 5 times? this is extremely unprofessional, especially froma staff member as you are.


Whoops Troy, I think you insulated him by giving his favorite band less than a 10....

probably you are the most stupid here. i said thousand times that i never cared about the rating of the review...
Troy Killjoy - 06.12.2011 at 23:29  
The thread's over guys. If Erik would have posted on the first page it would have been over. We've moved on.
Lit. - 07.12.2011 at 06:06  
Can't believe I missed all this.
It's like waking up from a nice nap to find out your home's been torn apart by Nuclear war.
Whoblehwah - 07.12.2011 at 07:11  
This finally gets a review and it from a whiny elitist? Lol.
Troy Killjoy - 07.12.2011 at 08:14  
Written by Whoblehwah on 07.12.2011 at 07:11
This finally gets a review and it from a whiny elitist? Lol.

Trollfail.
Angelic Storm - 07.12.2011 at 11:59  
I see it so often, that a band's members themselves show more decorum, maturity, and yes, open mindedness, than many of their fans.

I also suspect that having his music compared to Voivod, Destruction, and the likes would make Erik and his bandmates more than a little proud.
@gent_-_orange - 07.12.2011 at 14:14  
Written by Angelic Storm on 07.12.2011 at 11:59


I also suspect that having his music compared to Voivod, Destruction, and the likes would make Erik and his bandmates more than a little proud.


Agreed with this, Thrash as a whole stopped being original a long time ago anyway, All a thrash band should do nowadays is deliver a good ass kicking with great riffs and well written songs and this is exactly what Vektor has done with both albums.
Valaskjalf - 07.12.2011 at 19:27  
Written by Deadmeat on 06.12.2011 at 23:24

Written by Valaskjalf on 06.12.2011 at 20:33

Written by Deadmeat on 04.12.2011 at 22:27

Written by Troy Killjoy on 04.12.2011 at 22:18

Out of the 200+ albums I've listened to this year, maybe a dozen or so could be considered original. As in, worthy of more than a 6 in the originality department.

ok your review is positive. say it more times to believe it yourself.

as you are a staff member and not a "stupid asshole lurking on the net" i wonder how the fuck you can listen to 200 albums (or more) in a year and be fully able to understand them. how the f**k can you write reviews for albums you've listened only 1,2 or 5 times? this is extremely unprofessional, especially froma staff member as you are.


Whoops Troy, I think you insulated him by giving his favorite band less than a 10....

probably you are the most stupid here. i said thousand times that i never cared about the rating of the review...


Your grammar is shocking...stupid one
Troy Killjoy - 07.12.2011 at 20:37  
Any more useless debating will be deleted. Consider this a warning.

EDIT: that doesn't mean you can't debate my review with me, but don't start debating about irrelevant crap with other users
BitterCOld - 07.12.2011 at 20:56  
Hi everybody!

for starters, it's awesome to see a member of band, particularly an established one, chime in on a review. especially when the review does contain some criticism of the album rather than just someone blowing smoke.

beyond that, if pointless bickering continues by others, I will have zero problem in "clean up, Aisle VEKTOR" and removing posts.
D.a.n - 08.12.2011 at 00:22  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.12.2011 at 20:37

Don't start debating about irrelevant crap with other users


Meaning we are only allowed to discuss irrelevant crap with you? Fair enough!

But on a serious note: Erik, reading your comments was so refreshing and energizing! It's great to see a metal artist respond to criticism (though 7.5 is a high rating for the Killjoy, mind you!) in a mature, clever, polite, open and humble way as you did. You said: Hats off to Troy for the review. I say: Hats off to YOU, Erik!.
Whoblehwah - 08.12.2011 at 01:06  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.12.2011 at 08:14

Written by Whoblehwah on 07.12.2011 at 07:11
This finally gets a review and it from a whiny elitist? Lol.

Trollfail.


Not trolling, just sayin'.
Marcel Hubregtse - 08.12.2011 at 01:10  
Written by Whoblehwah on 08.12.2011 at 01:06

Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.12.2011 at 08:14

Written by Whoblehwah on 07.12.2011 at 07:11
This finally gets a review and it from a whiny elitist? Lol.

Trollfail.


Not trolling, just sayin'.


what's is elitist and whiny about the review?
Grody2themax - 08.12.2011 at 02:36  
Written by erikwithafro81 on 06.12.2011 at 10:34

Constructive criticism only makes us want to work harder to better ourselves to outdo what we've done. We'll get you on board, all in due time my friend .


mm...hopefully this means getting working on being hella original since that has been the biggest constructive criticism . It would be awesome to hear a super original band with an underlying "classic" extreme metal sound, sort of like what Revocation has done (but they venture off too far sometimes for some "true" metal heads to enjoy...) I'm definitely digging the sci-fi/space theme. It would be cool to see where you guys take that in the future
Whoblehwah - 08.12.2011 at 09:01  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.12.2011 at 01:10

Written by Whoblehwah on 08.12.2011 at 01:06

Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.12.2011 at 08:14

Written by Whoblehwah on 07.12.2011 at 07:11
This finally gets a review and it from a whiny elitist? Lol.

Trollfail.


Not trolling, just sayin'.


what's is elitist and whiny about the review?


"ADD-friendly review: This is not the worst album of the revivalist thrash movement I've come across."
"Basically, if you listened to these guys before listening to Voivod and you didn't know Voivod is to thrash what Black Sabbath is to old folk's home, you'd think Vektor were being ripped off."
"A proper review should focus more on the music than this, no? Well it's hard to focus on what's being presented here because it's all been done before and so much better."
"If you're too lazy to check out thrash metal's golden years, then Vektor will help you re-live the past. If you're the "I read the book before it was a movie" kind of person, there isn't anything special going on here."

That shit. He spent half the review crying about how Vektor sounds similar to other bands instead of actually talking about Outer Isolation. Then when he finally did talk about the album it was just a short paragraph. What kind of unprofessional bullshit is that?
Troy Killjoy - 08.12.2011 at 09:15  
Written by Whoblehwah on 08.12.2011 at 09:01
What kind of unprofessional bullshit is that?

Already addressed this question multiple times.
Whoblehwah - 08.12.2011 at 09:20  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 08.12.2011 at 09:15

Written by Whoblehwah on 08.12.2011 at 09:01
What kind of unprofessional bullshit is that?

Already addressed this question multiple times.


Well excuse me (princess) for not reading through all the comments.

Reference no one ever gets ftw.
Troy Killjoy - 08.12.2011 at 09:25  
Written by Whoblehwah on 08.12.2011 at 09:20
Well excuse me (princess) for not reading through all the comments.

Reference no one ever gets ftw.

The last time someone called me princess I was in my ex-girlfriend's basement wearing a blindfold and a tutu. Thanks for helping me reminisce.
Daniell - 08.12.2011 at 11:00  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 08.12.2011 at 09:15

Written by Whoblehwah on 08.12.2011 at 09:01
What kind of unprofessional bullshit is that?

Already addressed this question multiple times.


All that poor kid says is: "you dared rate the album lower than me, I hate you!"

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