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RANKING CRITERIA :

1. Originality [ 35% of the rating ]

2. Songwriting [ 35% of the rating ]

3. Performance [ 20% of the rating ]

4. Historical value [ 10% of the rating ]

Created by: Vasil de Shumen | 10.03.2012



1. Black Sabbath - Paranoid
1970
2. Metallica - Ride The Lightning
1984
3. Iron Maiden - The Number Of The Beast
1982
4. Black Sabbath - Master Of Reality
1971
5. Metallica - Master Of Puppets
1986
6. Megadeth - Rust In Peace
1990
7. Iron Maiden - Piece Of Mind
1983
8. Iron Maiden - Powerslave
1984
9. AC/DC - Let There Be Rock (Australia)
1977
10. Manowar - Hail To England
1984
11. Savatage - Hall Of The Mountain King
1987
12. Rainbow - Rising
1976
13. Van Halen - Van Halen
1978
14. Anacrusis - Screams And Whispers
1993
15. Rainbow - Long Live Rock 'N' Roll
1978
16. Deep Purple - In Rock
1970
17. King Diamond - Abigail
1987
18. Metallica - Kill 'Em All
1983
19. Dream Theater - Images And Words
1992
20. Judas Priest - Painkiller
1990
21. Coroner - Grin
1993
22. Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So What?
1988
23. Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
1980
24. Pantera - Cowboys From Hell
1990
25. Helloween - Keeper Of The Seven Keys Part II
1988
26. Judas Priest - Sad Wings Of Destiny
1976
27. W.A.S.P. - The Headless Children
1989
28. Fates Warning - Awaken The Guardian
1986
29. Manowar - Sign Of The Hammer
1984
30. Accept - Restless And Wild
1982
31. Iron Maiden - Somewhere In Time
1986
32. Paradise Lost - Gothic
1991
33. Anthrax - Among The Living
1987
34. Dissection - Storm Of The Light's Bane
1995
35. Souls At Zero - 3-D
1991, actually by Wrathchild America
36. Psychotic Waltz - A Social Grace
1990
37. Megadeth - Countdown To Extinction
1992
38. Bathory - Hammerheart
1990
39. Cynic - Focus
1993
40. Dio - Holy Diver
1983
41. Judas Priest - Defenders Of The Faith
1984
42. Savatage - Sirens
1983
43. Megadeth - Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?
1986
44. Death - Spiritual Healing
1990
45. Metallica - ...And Justice For All
1988
46. Slayer - Reign In Blood
1986
47. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
1986
48. Avenged Sevenfold - City Of Evil
2005
49. My Dying Bride - Turn Loose The Swans
1993
50. Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance
1982
51. Savatage - Gutter Ballet
1989
52. Iron Maiden - Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
1988
53. King Diamond - Fatal Portrait
1986
54. Megadeth - Killing Is My Business... And Business Is Good!
1985
55. Death - Individual Thought Patterns
1993
56. Pantera - Vulgar Display Of Power
1992
57. Dissection - The Somberlain
1993
58. Coroner - Mental Vortex
1991
59. Helloween - Walls Of Jericho
1985
60. Death - Scream Bloody Gore
1987
61. Voivod - Nothingface
1989
62. Death - Human
1991
63. Savatage - Edge Of Thorns
1993
64. Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From A Memory
1999
65. Dream Theater - Awake
1994
66. Slayer - South Of Heaven
1988
67. Metal Church - Metal Church
1984
68. Opeth - Morningrise
1996
69. D-Age - Symbols For The Blue Times
1994
70. Annihilator - Alice In Hell
1989
71. Slayer - Seasons In The Abyss
1990
72. Anacrusis - Manic Impressions
1991
73. Toxik - World Circus
1987
74. Death - Symbolic
1995
75. Alice In Chains - Dirt
1992
76. Holy Terror - Mind Wars
1988
77. Motörhead - Overkill
1979
78. Arcturus - Aspera Hiems Symfonia
1996
79. Raven - Wiped Out
1982
80. Venom - Black Metal
1982
81. Testament - The Legacy
1987
82. Opeth - Still Life
1999
83. Paradise Lost - Shades Of God
1992
84. Annihilator - Never, Neverland
1990
85. Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond
1992
86. Legend (JE) - Legend
1981
87. Twisted Sister - Under The Blade
1982
88. Nuclear Assault - Game Over
1986
89. Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath Vol. 4
1972
90. W.A.S.P. - W.A.S.P.
1984
91. Opeth - Orchid
1995
92. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
1991
93. Helloween - Keeper Of The Seven Keys Part I
1987
94. Queensrÿche - Operation: Mindcrime
1988
95. Destruction - Eternal Devastation
1986
96. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break The Oath
1984
97. Twisted Sister - Stay Hungry
1984
98. Coroner - No More Color
1989
99. Fates Warning - The Spectre Within
1985
100. Death - Leprosy
1988
101. Jason Becker - Perpetual Burn
1988
102. Cacophony - Speed Metal Symphony
1987
103. Helstar - Nosferatu
1989
104. Motörhead - Ace Of Spades
1980
105. Fatal Opera - The Eleventh Hour
1997
106. King Diamond - Conspiracy
1989
107. Metal Church - Blessing In Disguise
1989
108. Manowar - Battle Hymns
1982
109. Bruce Dickinson - The Chemical Wedding
1998
110. Coroner - Punishment For Decadence
1988
111. Anthrax - Spreading The Disease
1985
112. Diamond Head - Lightning To The Nations
1980
113. Judas Priest - Stained Class
1978
114. Legend (JE) - Death In The Nursery
1982
115. Voivod - The Outer Limits
1993
116. King Diamond - "Them"
1988
117. Opeth - Blackwater Park
2001
118. Flotsam & Jetsam - Doomsday For The Deceiver
1986
119. Crimson Glory - Transcendence
1988
120. Dream Theater - When Dream And Day Unite
1989
121. Candlemass - Nightfall
1987
122. Accept - Metal Heart
1985
123. Overkill - Feel The Fire
1985
124. Queensrÿche - The Warning
1984
125. Sepultura - Beneath The Remains
1989
126. Death - The Sound Of Perseverance
1998
127. Iron Maiden - Killers
1981
128. Mekong Delta - The Music Of Erich Zann
1988
129. At The Gates - The Red In The Sky Is Ours
1992
130. Psychotic Waltz - Into The Everflow
1992
131. Manowar - Into Glory Ride
1983
132. Edge Of Sanity - Crimson
1996
133. King Diamond - The Eye
1990
134. Mercyful Fate - Melissa
1983
135. Slayer - Hell Awaits
1985
136. Morbid Angel - Altars Of Madness
1989
137. Meshuggah - Destroy Erase Improve
1995
138. Sanctuary - Into The Mirror Black
1989
139. Dio - The Last In Line
1984
140. Fear Of God - Within The Veil
1991
141. Opeth - My Arms, Your Hearse
1998
142. Savatage - Streets: A Rock Opera
1991
143. Holy Terror - Terror And Submission
1987
144. Sepultura - Schizophrenia
1987
145. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss
1988
146. Control Denied - The Fragile Art Of Existence
1999
147. Heir Apparent - Graceful Inheritance
1986
148. Marty Friedman - Dragon's Kiss
1988
149. Satan - Court In The Act
1983
150. Deep Purple - Perfect Strangers
1984
151. Yngwie Malmsteen - Rising Force
1984
152. Anacrusis - Suffering Hour
1988
153. Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard Of Ozz
1980
154. Toxik - Think This
1989
155. Testament - The New Order
1988
156. Psychotic Waltz - Bleeding
1996
157. Symphony X - The Divine Wings Of Tragedy
1997
158. Phlebotomized - Immense, Intense, Suspense
1994
159. Raven - Rock Until You Drop
1981
160. Trouble - Psalm 9
1984
161. Exodus - Bonded By Blood
1985
162. Type O Negative - Bloody Kisses
1993
163. Sabbat - History Of A Time To Come
1988
164. Kreator - Coma Of Souls
1990
165. Skid Row - Slave To The Grind
1991
166. Death Angel - The Ultra-Violence
1987
167. Crimson Glory - Crimson Glory
1986
168. Deathrow - Deception Ignored
1988
169. Coroner - R.I.P.
1987
170. Skyclad - Irrational Anthems
1996
171. Paradise Lost - Icon
1993
172. Savatage - Handful Of Rain
1994
173. Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
1985
174. My Dying Bride - The Angel And The Dark River
1995
175. Disharmonic Orchestra - Pleasuredome
1994
176. Entombed - Left Hand Path
1990
177. Autopsy - Mental Funeral
1991
178. Ophthalamia - A Journey In Darkness
1994
179. Dark Millennium - Ashore The Celestial Burden
1992
180. Emperor - Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk
1997
181. W.A.S.P. - The Crimson Idol
1992
182. Realm - Endless War
1988
183. Sacred Blade - Of The Sun + Moon
1986
184. Dark Tranquillity - The Gallery
1995
185. Sodom - Persecution Mania
1987
186. Angel Witch - Angel Witch
1980
187. Fatal Opera - Fatal Opera
1995
188. Doctor Butcher - Doctor Butcher
1994
189. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction
1984
190. Mastodon - Remission
2002
191. Avenged Sevenfold - Waking The Fallen
2003
192. Overkill - The Years Of Decay
1989
193. Heavy Load - Full Speed At High Level
1978
194. Watchtower - Energetic Disassembly
1985
195. Chastain - Ruler Of The Wasteland
1986
196. Bathory - Twilight Of The Gods
1991
197. Détente - Recognize No Authority
1986
198. Cradle Of Filth - Dusk... And Her Embrace
1996
199. Pestilence - Consuming Impulse
1989
200. Znowhite - Act Of God
1988



Disclaimer: All top lists are unofficial and do not represent the point of view of the MS Staff.
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Vasil de Shumen - 10.03.2012 at 22:31  
Other opinions .... ?
Cuca Beludo - 10.03.2012 at 22:38  
Not sure about the ranking, but the albums looks like pretty accurate to me.
K†ulu - 10.03.2012 at 23:30  
Yeah, that's a pretty cool list, but I think there is a bit too much Opeth , Megadeth's Cryptic Writings? Also why debuts by Acturus, Symphony X, and Nevermore? For Deep Purple I would choose Burn and Machine Head, but I have not listened to Perfect Strangers.

I'd say Diablo Swing Orchestra missing with their debut. A pretty important release for the modern scene if you ask me, but I see this list is focused more on the classics. Plus, death metal is almost not represented; neither is black, but that's your taste I see.

Nice to see Jason Becker, Psychotic Waltz, Coroner, Anacrusis, and Watchtower.
vezzy - 10.03.2012 at 23:30  
You make me ashamed of being a Bulgarian.

Actually, not too bad, and I'm pretty happy to see Opeth pushed deep back, but the ranking is questionable, yes.

Also you have Manowar in the top ten, thus losing all credibility.
Nightmare Raven - 11.03.2012 at 10:05  
Very good, but I don't see 'Falling Into Infinity' and 'Octavarium'

Where are Planet X ?
Vasil de Shumen - 11.03.2012 at 10:44  
Written by Guest on 11.03.2012 at 10:05

Very good, but I don't see 'Falling Into Infinity' and 'Octavarium'

Where are Planet X ?


Octavarium - in my list Top 30 best albums ( 2000 - 20011 )
Planet X !!!? - this is jazz. Really heavy ... but jazz
Vasil de Shumen - 11.03.2012 at 12:05  
Written by K†ulu on 10.03.2012 at 23:30

... Megadeth's Cryptic Writings? Also why debuts by Acturus, Symphony X, and Nevermore? For Deep Purple I would choose Burn and Machine Head ...

I'd say Diablo Swing Orchestra missing with their debut. A pretty important release for the modern scene if you ask me ...


Thanks for opinion

Cryptic Writings : performance - full 10, songwriting - 9

'The Divine Wings Of Tragedy' isn't debut.

Machine Head and Burn - pure hard rock.

The Butcher's Ballroom ... very good and interesting album - perfect sound, good arrangements, amazing voice ... but too much MUSE (in the vocal lines) influences.
K†ulu - 11.03.2012 at 12:16  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 11.03.2012 at 12:05

Written by K†ulu on 10.03.2012 at 23:30

... Megadeth's Cryptic Writings? Also why debuts by Arcturus, Symphony X, and Nevermore? For Deep Purple I would choose Burn and Machine Head ...

I'd say Diablo Swing Orchestra missing with their debut. A pretty important release for the modern scene if you ask me ...


Thanks for opinion

Cryptic Writings : performance - full 10, songwriting - 9

'The Divine Wings Of Tragedy' isn't debut.

Machine Head and Burn - pure hard rock.

The Butcher's Ballroom ... very good and interesting album - perfect sound, good arrangements, amazing voice ... but too much MUSE (in the vocal lines) influences.


Yeah, true, I should not really speak of Symphony X; I don't know them all that well. But Cryptic Writings... while it's not a bad album, I would not include it into any kind of TOP lists.

I think Machine Head and Burn are quite heavy. Don't know about how much more heavy metal the ones you picked are.
Nightmare Raven - 12.03.2012 at 11:36  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 11.03.2012 at 10:44

Written by Guest on 11.03.2012 at 10:05

Very good, but I don't see 'Falling Into Infinity' and 'Octavarium'

Where are Planet X ?


Octavarium - in my list Top 30 best albums ( 2000 - 20011 )
Planet X !!!? - this is jazz. Really heavy ... but jazz


error this is prog metal
Vasil de Shumen - 12.03.2012 at 16:31  
Written by Guest on 12.03.2012 at 11:36

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 11.03.2012 at 10:44

Written by Guest on 11.03.2012 at 10:05

Very good, but I don't see 'Falling Into Infinity' and 'Octavarium'

Where are Planet X ?


Octavarium - in my list Top 30 best albums ( 2000 - 20011 )
Planet X !!!? - this is jazz. Really heavy ... but jazz


error this is prog metal


Maybe heavy jazz fusion with strong metal influences ...
M C Vice - 13.03.2012 at 06:52  
Hey, Sinergy's in there!
theFIST - 13.03.2012 at 22:38  
I don"t think Death"s last album deserves a place in the list, due to not being that original. It is the last Death album, nothing else
Seven Churches by Possessed would rather deserve a spot in the list
also, what does Metallica"s selftitled have to do in that list? it isn"t original and completely fails in the songwriting
you should have rather given a spot to Fear Factory (maybe Demanufacture) and Meshuggah (maybe Chaosphere)
Vasil de Shumen - 14.03.2012 at 00:00  
Written by theFIST on 13.03.2012 at 22:38

I don"t think Death"s last album deserves a place in the list, due to not being that original. It is the last Death album, nothing else
Seven Churches by Possessed would rather deserve a spot in the list
also, what does Metallica"s selftitled have to do in that list? it isn"t original and completely fails in the songwriting
you should have rather given a spot to Fear Factory (maybe Demanufacture) and Meshuggah (maybe Chaosphere)


Actually you're right about Fear Factory.

But 'The Sound Of Perseverance' ... with so perfect performance, real inspiration, innovative arrangements. This is a very good album.
theFIST - 14.03.2012 at 00:04  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 14.03.2012 at 00:00

Written by theFIST on 13.03.2012 at 22:38

I don"t think Death"s last album deserves a place in the list, due to not being that original. It is the last Death album, nothing else
Seven Churches by Possessed would rather deserve a spot in the list
also, what does Metallica"s selftitled have to do in that list? it isn"t original and completely fails in the songwriting
you should have rather given a spot to Fear Factory (maybe Demanufacture) and Meshuggah (maybe Chaosphere)


Actually you're right about Fear Factory.

But 'The Sound Of Perseverance' ... with so perfect performance, real inspiration, innovative arrangements. This is a very good album.


thank you
yes, it is well performed and well written, but it is simply another Death album. They are all good, that doesn"t make the last one special
Vasil de Shumen - 22.03.2012 at 17:08  
Users,
Do you approve these ranking criteria (1. Historical Value; 2. Songwriting; 3. Performance; 4. Originality) ?
Troy Killjoy - 23.03.2012 at 02:17  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 22.03.2012 at 17:08
Historical Value

Not a big fan of that to be honest.
Vasil de Shumen - 23.03.2012 at 02:42  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.03.2012 at 02:17

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 22.03.2012 at 17:08
Historical Value

Not a big fan of that to be honest.


Why ?
Troy Killjoy - 23.03.2012 at 02:51  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 23.03.2012 at 02:42
Why ?

Because usually it means you're giving points to something by virtue of it being released before something else.

I just think it's unfair to hold it against new bands for not being formed early enough (or in the case of the musicians, born early enough) to create what would later be described as revolutionary. If a new death metal band outperforms Autopsy/Morbid Angel/etc. then that album should be held above the "classics" because you think it's better for what it is.
Vasil de Shumen - 23.03.2012 at 03:55  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.03.2012 at 02:51

Because usually it means you're giving points to something by virtue of it being released before something else.

I just think it's unfair to hold it against new bands for not being formed early enough (or in the case of the musicians, born early enough) to create what would later be described as revolutionary. If a new death metal band outperforms Autopsy/Morbid Angel/etc. then that album should be held above the "classics" because you think it's better for what it is.


The Old band's Art is primitive art, but of such a kind that it cannot be surpassed by any later art, precisely because it is not form but SPIRIT. As we find it hard to part from the first spring days and pass into the season of full unfolding and ripening, so we tear ourselves almost regretfully away from this 'primitive' art, with its buds full of the coming wealth of IDEAS and forms, in order to see what ultimately became of it. In art, as in everything else, is not all unfolding and ripening a kind of withering, since in the full bloom we no longer have truth and reality appealing to us with that mysterious directness that is more magically eloquent than even perfection itself ?
Troy Killjoy - 23.03.2012 at 04:03  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 23.03.2012 at 03:55
?

Again, in my opinion, the problem with that is that you're judging those in full bloom for being in full bloom. This is the same as saying old people are better than young people simply because they've been around longer. I prefer a meritocracy in life, and that's evidently not a mutual preference.
Vasil de Shumen - 24.03.2012 at 17:53  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.03.2012 at 02:51

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 23.03.2012 at 02:42
Why ?

... If a new death metal band outperforms Autopsy/Morbid Angel/etc. then that album should be held above the "classics" because you think it's better for what it is.


The excessive use of digital technology destroys the music of many new bands. The recordings sound sterile and unnatural ...
Troy Killjoy - 25.03.2012 at 04:03  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 24.03.2012 at 17:53
The excessive use of digital technology destroys the music of many new bands. The recordings sound sterile and unnatural ...

But what about a new band that has all the characteristics of an older band?
Vasil de Shumen - 25.03.2012 at 10:20  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.03.2012 at 04:03

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 24.03.2012 at 17:53
The excessive use of digital technology destroys the music of many new bands. The recordings sound sterile and unnatural ...

But what about a new band that has all the characteristics of an older band?


There are very few such bands. Actually I like only Jon Oliva's Pain, Riverside, Augury and Sinergy.
Vasil de Shumen - 04.04.2012 at 21:43  
If this were Top 250 , what would you add ...... ?
theFIST - 05.04.2012 at 02:12  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 04.04.2012 at 21:43

If this were Top 250 , what would you add ...... ?

already gave suggestions of something to remove to make place, but also something to add
also think Ved Buens Ende needs a spot for basically playing the later Deathspell Omega or Virus style before either of those was formed
Vasil de Shumen - 05.04.2012 at 08:14  
Written by theFIST on 05.04.2012 at 02:12

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 04.04.2012 at 21:43

If this were Top 250 , what would you add ...... ?


also think Ved Buens Ende needs a spot for basically playing the later Deathspell Omega or Virus style before either of those was formed





Thank you. 'Written In Waters' is a very interesting album . I would add it to the upcoming list - 'Avant-Garde Masterpieces'
theFIST - 05.04.2012 at 18:43  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 05.04.2012 at 08:14

Written by theFIST on 05.04.2012 at 02:12

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 04.04.2012 at 21:43

If this were Top 250 , what would you add ...... ?


also think Ved Buens Ende needs a spot for basically playing the later Deathspell Omega or Virus style before either of those was formed





Thank you. 'Written In Waters' is a very interesting album . I would add it to the upcoming list - 'Avant-Garde Masterpieces'

for that list i"d also recommend you to add some Carnival in Coal, especially Sramik and Fear Not
An maybe Az I Dahak by Black Funeral also qualifies, but i"m not sure how avant garde it is
Vasil de Shumen - 07.04.2012 at 09:05  
Written by theFIST on 05.04.2012 at 18:43

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 05.04.2012 at 08:14

Written by theFIST on 05.04.2012 at 02:12

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 04.04.2012 at 21:43

If this were Top 250 , what would you add ...... ?


also think Ved Buens Ende needs a spot for basically playing the later Deathspell Omega or Virus style before either of those was formed





Thank you. 'Written In Waters' is a very interesting album . I would add it to the upcoming list - 'Avant-Garde Masterpieces'


An maybe Az I Dahak by Black Funeral also qualifies, but i"m not sure how avant garde it is


This is ambient black metal ... but American. In my opinion, the genuine black metal is Scandinavian
@gent_-_orange - 07.04.2012 at 13:38  
Why do people have this preconception that American black metal is automatically inferior to European black metal ? It comes off as incredibly elitist.
Vasil de Shumen - 07.04.2012 at 14:53  
Written by @gent_-_orange on 07.04.2012 at 13:38

Why do people have this preconception that American black metal is automatically inferior to European black metal ? It comes off as incredibly elitist.


The Old Scandinavian black metal is primitive music, but of such a kind that it cannot be surpassed by any foreign (American, French, Italian, … ) black metal, precisely because it is not form but spirit - NORTHERN Spirit …
Troy Killjoy - 07.04.2012 at 15:19  
And that's why it comes off as incredibly elitist.
@gent_-_orange - 07.04.2012 at 18:34  
So it is something other than the actual music then? If that's the case I am not on board because the only thing that should be judged is the music, Not some sort of Subjectively defined spirit the music might possess.

I feel sorry for a lot of the US black metal musicians who have their work put down that way purely because they are not from Europe.
Vasil de Shumen - 07.04.2012 at 20:11  
Written by @gent_-_orange on 07.04.2012 at 18:34


... Not some sort of Subjectively defined spirit the music might possess.



My friend, metal music has always had a special Spirit. This is not something subjective. A true metal fan unmistakably recognize this Spirit. Am I right ... ?
@gent_-_orange - 07.04.2012 at 20:56  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 07.04.2012 at 20:11

Written by @gent_-_orange on 07.04.2012 at 18:34


... Not some sort of Subjectively defined spirit the music might possess.



My friend, metal music has always had a special Spirit. This is not something subjective. A true metal fan unmistakably recognize this Spirit. Am I right ... ?


Maybe , But I disagree with you if you think the American Black Metal band's don't have the spirit that many of the European ones do, I just think its a bit unfair to criticise the US bands for that, When their contributions to Black Metal are very relevant nowadays. But we may just have to agree to disagree.
Vasil de Shumen - 07.04.2012 at 21:29  
Written by @gent_-_orange on 07.04.2012 at 20:56

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 07.04.2012 at 20:11

Written by @gent_-_orange on 07.04.2012 at 18:34


... Not some sort of Subjectively defined spirit the music might possess.



My friend, metal music has always had a special Spirit. This is not something subjective. A true metal fan unmistakably recognize this Spirit. Am I right ... ?


Maybe , But I disagree with you if you think the American Black Metal band's don't have the spirit that many of the European ones do, I just think its a bit unfair to criticise the US bands for that, When their contributions to Black Metal are very relevant nowadays. But we may just have to agree to disagree.


I respect all sincere metal musicians. But let they be authentic.
@gent_-_orange - 07.04.2012 at 22:36  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 07.04.2012 at 21:29


I respect all sincere metal musicians. But let they be authentic.


So do I
theFIST - 08.04.2012 at 17:39  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 07.04.2012 at 09:05

Written by theFIST on 05.04.2012 at 18:43


And maybe Az I Dahak by Black Funeral also qualifies, but i"m not sure how avant garde it is


This is ambient black metal ... but American. In my opinion, the genuine black metal is Scandinavian

some of their works are somewhat ambient, that one not really
also, "genuine" black metal is by definition excluded from avant garde lists
Vasil de Shumen - 08.04.2012 at 21:42  
Written by theFIST on 08.04.2012 at 17:39


"genuine" black metal is by definition excluded from avant garde lists



correct statement
Vasil de Shumen - 22.04.2012 at 19:41  
Have I missed any great metal masterpiece ....... ?
Cynic Metalhead - 22.04.2012 at 20:43  
Top 200 Metal list is also featured on MS, it's just that you just shuffled the bands positions. So in terms of excitement? to be honest this list gonna be very boring. on the other hand, guys out here won't be too intrigued about "200 master list bor" cause all this stuff has already happened. let the gates should be open for the new bands or hunting of new talent.

but pat on the back for your efforts towards this list.
Vasil de Shumen - 22.04.2012 at 22:48  
" ... let the gates should be open for the new bands or hunting of new talent.
but pat on the back for your efforts towards this list. "


I respect all young metal musicians.
The new bands are interesting and virtuoso musicians play . But … somehow they aren't persuasive. The immediacy and the naturalness of 80s and 90s are gone There are too many influences and quotations.
Troy Killjoy - 23.04.2012 at 03:15  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 22.04.2012 at 22:48
The new bands are interesting and virtuoso musicians play . But … somehow they aren't persuasive. The immediacy and the naturalness of 80s and 90s are gone There are too many influences and quotations.

Maybe in terms of revivalism and old band rehashing an old sound, but there are so many new bands nowadays - and even new genres - so while you feel like the "naturalness" of the 80s/90s is gone, contemporary metal is in no way weakening.
Vasil de Shumen - 23.04.2012 at 20:13  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.04.2012 at 03:15

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 22.04.2012 at 22:48
The new bands are interesting and virtuoso musicians play . But … somehow they aren't persuasive. The immediacy and the naturalness of 80s and 90s are gone There are too many influences and quotations.

Maybe in terms of revivalism and old band rehashing an old sound, but there are so many new bands nowadays - and even new genres - so while you feel like the "naturalness" of the 80s/90s is gone, contemporary metal is in no way weakening.


and again - I respect all new bands

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The HISTORY OF METAL MUSIC ( in my opinion) :

1. The Beginning ( 1969 - 1974 )

2. Pre-Classical Years ( 1975 - 1979 )

3. Classical Years - GOLDEN Age ( 1980 - 1990 )

4. Experimental Years - SILVER Age ( 1991 - 1996 )

5. Pre-Decadent Years ( 1997 - 2001 )

6. Decadent Years ( 2002 ----- now ----->
Troy Killjoy - 23.04.2012 at 20:16  
It must really suck to judge thousands of hours' worth of music so negatively based solely on the fact of what year it was released...

Oh well, to each their own.
Mr. Doctor - 23.04.2012 at 21:11  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.04.2012 at 20:16

It must really suck to judge thousands of hours' worth of music so negatively based solely on the fact of what year it was released...

Oh well, to each their own.


I felt the same, which is why I probably won't bother to even recommend any "masterpieces" considering who they belong to some tag called "decadent" years. LOL.
Vasil de Shumen - 24.04.2012 at 20:09  
Written by Mr. Doctor on 23.04.2012 at 21:11


I felt the same, which is why I probably won't bother to even recommend any "masterpieces" considering who they belong to some tag called "decadent" years. LOL.



The decadence of metal music has many aspects, but mostly :

1. In the new millennium fresh ideas are scarce, many of the new metal musicians often are "inspired" from the old originals.

2. The excessive use of digital technology destroys the music of many new bands. The recordings sound sterile and unnatural.


and again - I respect all new ( young ) metal musicians !!!
Vasil de Shumen - 30.04.2012 at 08:58  
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 22.04.2012 at 20:43

Top 200 Metal list is also featured on MS, it's just that you re shuffled the bands positions...


Not true, my friend The MS Top 200 includes only 64 of these (my list) albums.

My Top 200 contains several almost unknown bands : Doctor Butcher, Disincarnate, Chastain, Deathrow, Anacrusis, Mekong Delta, Watchtower.
Also solo albums of Marty Friedman, Jason Becker, Tony MacAlpine.
Cynic Metalhead - 30.04.2012 at 20:01  
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 30.04.2012 at 08:58

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 22.04.2012 at 20:43

Top 200 Metal list is also featured on MS, it's just that you re shuffled the bands positions...


My Top 200 contains several almost unknown bands : Doctor Butcher, Disincarnate, Chastain, Deathrow, Anacrusis, Mekong Delta, Memento Mori, Watchtower.
Also solo albums of Marty Friedman, Jason Becker, Tony MacAlpine.


Adding salt to the fucking tasteless dish won't change the taste of the food boi.

I really appreciate the way you introduces some of the "unknown" bands but it won't change the fact that some of the bands in your list had almost covered up by half of millions of Metalheads.
Vasil de Shumen - 30.04.2012 at 22:46  
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 30.04.2012 at 20:01

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 30.04.2012 at 08:58


My Top 200 contains several almost unknown bands : Doctor Butcher, Disincarnate, Chastain, Deathrow, Anacrusis, Mekong Delta, Watchtower.
Also solo albums of Marty Friedman, Jason Becker, Tony MacAlpine.



... I really appreciate the way you introduces some of the "unknown" bands but it won't change the fact that some of the bands in your list had almost covered up by half of millions of Metalheads.


I don't understand - what is the problem that many bands of my list are known to most fans
Cynic Metalhead - 01.05.2012 at 07:59  
The problem is that this list is very common and boring.

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