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Please write your opinions on the list, if you have any. I'm not doing this list because I consider myself as an expert more than other people here, but because I think it is interesting to discuss things like this. I might be wrong in many cases, and I would only be glad if you correct me about any of my "mistakes", if you find any, or suggest other bands that deserves to be on the list. I have tried to only include bands that are fully accepted as metal, why many alternative bands are excluded.

Created by: Aristarchos | 18.07.2012



1. Black Sabbath
The first band considered as metal. All their influence could not be described.
2. Judas Priest
They brought in more melody to metal, added the twin guitar and created the traditional heavy metal sound.
3. Iron Maiden
Has had a huge influence on all kind of melodic metal and also on early thrash metal bands.
4. Motörhead
The first band to mix metal with punk. Had a major influence on the thrash genre.
5. Venom
Usually considered as the first extreme metal band. Influenced genres like black metal and thrash metal.
6. Metallica
The first thrash metal band to record an album. Have influenced numerous bands in different genres.
7. Slayer
Brought in hardcore influences in thrash metal to make it more extreme, and influenced a genre like death metal.
8. Celtic Frost
The first band to be described as avant-garde metal. Have had a big influence on different genres like death, black, gothic and symphonic metal.
9. Bathory
Usually considered as the first pure black metal band. They also created the viking metal genre.
10. Helloween
They created the power metal genre, and have influenced most of the bands in the genre since.
11. Possessed
Had a huge influence on early death metal.
12. Death
Created what many considered as the first pure death metal.
13. Pantera
They started the groove metal genre and influenced genres like nu metal, metalcore and other forms of alternative metal.
14. Godflesh
Created the industrial metal genre (or at least was one of the originators). Had a major influence on post metal, and also influenced drone metal and other forms of alternative metal.
15. Morbid Angel
Brought in ultra-speed to death metal.
16. Paradise Lost
Created the gothic metal genre.
17. At The Gates
They started the Gothenburg movement and have had a major influence on the metalcore genre.
18. Mercyful Fate
They perhaps didn't create a genre on their own, but have influenced bands in numerous genres.
19. Accept
Had a big influence on early power metal, speed metal and thrash metal.
20. Melvins
Created the sludge metal genre and influenced bands in alternative metal, drone metal and post metal.
21. Budgie
22. Queensrÿche
Influential for prog metal.
23. Napalm Death
The first grindcore band along with Repulsion.
24. Kreator
Influenced the death and black metal genres.
25. Sepultura
Started as a death/thrash metal band but had their biggest impact on genres like nu metal and metalcore.
26. Dream Theater
Took the progressive influences more further into metal than any band before them.
27. Mayhem
Although bands like Burzum, Emperor and Darkthrone have had a bigger influence for later black metal, Mayhem was the band that started the 2nd wave black metal.
28. Yngwie Malmsteen
Created the neoclassical metal genre.
29. Manowar
Made the metal more epic and bombastic. Influenced the power metal genre and also the viking metal genre.
30. Candlemass
Bands like Pentagram, Trouble and Saint Vitus were earlier, but it was Candlemass who made the genre popular and influenced most forth-coming bands.
31. Watchtower
The first technical thrash metal band, and to many also the first prog metal band.
32. Burzum
Created the atmospheric black metal genre.
33. Emperor
Created the symphonic black metal genre.
34. Atheist
The first technical death metal band.
35. Repulsion
Along with Napalm Death, the first grindcore band.
36. Pentagram
The first band that took Black Sabbath's doom metal sound further, although they didn't release any album until the 1980's.
37. Trouble
One of the bands that is responsible for the creation of doom metal as a genre.
38. Saint Vitus
Together with Trouble and Pentagram, they are responsible for the doom metal genre. They also brought in some punk influences to doom metal.
39. Entombed
As Nihilist they could be said to be responsible for the swedish death metal scene. They brought in a hardcore element to death metal, and had a big influence for the evolution towards melodic death metal, and also started death 'n' roll
40. Obituary
One of the pioneers of death metal.
41. Neurosis
Created the post metal genre.
42. Suffocation
Created the brutal death metal genre. Also had a big influence on the deathcore genre.
43. Diamond Head
Had a big influence on thrash metal.
44. Anthrax
Brought in NY hardcore and rap into thrash metal.
45. Darkthrone
The first 2nd wave black metal band to release an album.
46. Megadeth
One of the biggest thrash metal bands.
47. Autopsy
Has influenced many big death metal bands and death doom bands.
48. Savatage
Has had a big influence on american heavy metal.
49. Fates Warning
One of the pioneers of prog metal. Has also influenced power metal bands.
50. Suicidal Tendencies
Influential for crossover thrash.
51. Fear Factory
Brought industrial influences to the extreme metal scene.
52. Deicide
One of the more influential in death metal.
53. Carcass
Influential in both grindcore and melodic death metal.
54. Amorphis
Has had a big influence in finnish metal. Brought in some finnish folk influences.
55. Immortal
Brought speed to black metal.
56. Sodom
Influenced death and black metal.
57. Exodus
One of the pioneers of thrash metal.
58. My Dying Bride
One of the pioneers in death doom. Brought in violins to doom metal and influenced gothic metal.
59. Ministry
One of the pioneers of industrial metal. Combined industrial metal with some influences from thrash metal.
60. The Gathering
One of the originators of gothic metal.
61. Theatre Of Tragedy
Developed the beauty and the beast sound, and was the first one to use it on an entire album.
62. Dark Angel
Influenced death metal.
63. The 3rd And The Mortal
Influential for atmospheric metal.
64. Saxon
One of the first NWOBHM band.
65. Thergothon
Created the funeral doom metal genre.
66. Earth
Created the drone metal genre.
67. Isis
One of the pioneers of post metal.
68. Sleep
Influential stoner metal band.
69. Manilla Road
American cult band. Infuential for american heavy metal.
70. D.R.I.
Influential for crossover thrash.
71. Destruction
One of the big three within teutonic thrash metal.
72. Sarcófago
Influential for black metal and technical death metal.
73. Master
One of the pioneers of death metal.
74. Cannibal Corpse
Influential in death metal.
75. Opeth
Took the progressivity farther into death metal than any band before.
76. In Flames
The most melodic of the classic gothenburg metal bands. Influenced melodic metalcore.
77. Blind Guardian
Influential power metal band.
78. Tiamat
Created what could be called psychedelic doom metal.
79. Enslaved
Influential in viking metal and progressive black metal.
80. Dissection
Created melodic black metal.
81. Dark Tranquillity
One of the pioneers of the gothenburg sound.
82. Therion
Took the symphonic element further into metal than any one before.
83. Rhapsody Of Fire
The first symphonic power metal band.
84. Stratovarius
Influential power metal band.
85. Nocturnus
Brought in keyboards to death metal.
86. Children Of Bodom
Created extreme power metal.
87. Crimson Glory
Influential for prog metal.
88. Anathema
One of the originators of death doom metal. Influenced gothic metal.
89. Meshuggah
Created what has been labelled as djent.
90. Bethlehem
Gave name to the most diffuse metal genre dark metal. Introduced the suicidal lyrics.
91. Cathedral
Took the doom metal genre into the 90's.
92. Ulver
Influential for the blackened folk metal genre. Later they experimented with electronica.
93. Katatonia
Influential for the blackened doom metal genre, and also for death doom metal.
94. Raven
Influential for thrash metal.
95. Anvil
Influential for thrash metal.
96. Dio
Classic heavy metal band.
97. Gamma Ray
Influential power metal band.
98. Exhumed
Influential deathgrind band.
99. Ozzy Osbourne
The biggest influence he had was I think by the guitar-player Randy Rhoads.
100. Skyclad
The first folk metal band.
101. Cynic
Took the jazz influences further into death metal than any band before.
102. Graveland
Influential for the eastern european black metal scene.
103. Rotting Christ
Early greek black metal band.
104. Sentenced
Influential for what on this site is described as suomi metal.
105. Type O Negative
Created their own form of gothic metal.
106. Skepticism
Influential funeral doom metal band.
107. Terrorizer
Classic grindcore band.
108. White Zombie
Influential for groove metal, industrial metal and nu metal.
109. Immolation
Influential for dark death metal
110. Bolt Thrower
Influential english death metal band
111. Angel Witch
Influential for thrash metal.
112. Stormtroopers Of Death
Influential for crossover thrash.
113. Disembowelment
114. Winter
115. Vulcano
116. Nightwish
117. Danzig
118. King Diamond
119. Machine Head
120. Corrosion Of Conformity
121. Eyehategod
122. Crowbar
123. Carnivore
124. Exhorder
125. Running Wild
126. Metal Church
127. Marduk
128. Samael
129. Unholy
130. Prong
131. Testament
132. Overkill
133. Slaughter
134. Massacre
135. Voivod
136. Witchfinder General
137. HammerFall
138. Dimmu Borgir
139. Cradle Of Filth
140. Finntroll
141. Satyricon
142. In The Woods...
143. Master's Hammer
144. Mastodon
145. Strapping Young Lad
146. Symphony X
147. Nile
148. Cryptopsy
149. Dismember
150. Pestilence



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Valentin B - 23.07.2012 at 17:53  
Love how Priest is above Maiden, as they ought to be

This is a great list, obviously there are/were many other really influential bands out there but these are probably the essentials.
Aristarchos - 25.07.2012 at 12:29  
Written by Valentin B on 23.07.2012 at 17:53

Love how Priest is above Maiden, as they ought to be

This is a great list, obviously there are/were many other really influential bands out there but these are probably the essentials.

I have never been a fan of Priest, and Maiden is my favourite band all categories, but I can't deny that Priest is the most influential of those two.
Apatheria - 25.07.2012 at 12:52  
I'd give Godflesh credit for industrial metal over Ministry, but otherwise, solid list.
Aristarchos - 25.07.2012 at 22:44  
Written by Apatheria on 25.07.2012 at 12:52

I'd give Godflesh credit for industrial metal over Ministry, but otherwise, solid list.

I haven't heard any of Godflesh's music nor any of Ministry's 80's albums (I will check them out), so I couldn't say who was the first to play industrial metal. Godflesh released their first ep in 1988 and their first full-length in 1989. Were they industrial metal from the beginning? Ministry released "The Land of Rape and Honey" in 1988 and "The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to Taste" in 1989. I know there are some discussions about when they really became a metal band, but yet I can't have any opinion. Godflesh isn't as famous as Ministry, but that doesn't mean they couldn't be as important as Ministry. Do you think they deserve to be on the list instead of Ministry? Since they started to play industrial metal almost at the same time, perhaps they evolved independent of each other from common influences? I know there were other bands like Killing Joke who wasn't metal but had a major influence on the genre, so perhaps none of them have been influential enough on their own to reach top 20? I also have no idea what bands like Nine Inch Nails mentions as main influence, nor who has been most influential for later industrial metal bands.

By the way, thanks for sharing your point of view!
Aristarchos - 26.07.2012 at 10:58  
I have now checked out 80's Godflesh and 80's Ministry and read more about Godflesh, and now I understand that they have had been more influential than Ministry for industrial metal, and I also now see where the post metal genre comes from, so I replaced Ministry with Godflesh on my list. I also found Godflesh's music much more amusing than Ministry's (especially than their 80's records). Godflesh didn't sounded as commercial and poppy as Ministry, although I don't understand why they sometimes are labelled as grindcore.
Aristarchos - 26.07.2012 at 19:18  
I have now expanded the list to a top 25 to make room for some more bands I thought deserved to be on the list.
Aristarchos - 13.08.2012 at 13:19  
I have now expanded my list to a top 40.

This expansion was the toughest so far. Of course it is always difficult to compare bands in different genres, but this time I found it more difficult than before to compare the influences within genres, especially with the traditional doom metal bands. How to compare the influence of Pentagram, Trouble and Saint Vitus?

Pentagram was the first band and recorded demos in the 70's, although they didn't record any album until 1985. I'm not sure how much the 80's doom bands were influenced by them, or directly by Black Sabbath, but I guess they at least were familiar with them. I know Lee Dorrian (Cathedral) have mentioned Trouble as his favourite band and if I'm not wrong also Candlemass has mentioned Trouble as an influence, but I'm not sure how much they were influenced by Saint Vitus or Pentagram. Saint Vitus had a punkier sound and had probably an influence on the developement of sludge metal. When it comes to death doom I know My Dying Bride mentions Candlemass, along with Celtic Frost and Bathory, as there main influences. I haven't heard what other death doom bands like Paradise Lost and Anathema have mentioned as their doom influences.

I placed Candlemass some positions over the other three, despite the fact that the other were earlier, because I suppose they have been more influential for the 90's and 00's doom scene. I have heard far more bands sounding like Candlemass than like the other three, and I'm not sure how much influence Trouble, Saint Vitus and Pentagram have had on modern doom metal, except for some retro-doom bands like Witchcraft, Reverend Bizarre and Gates of Slumber.

I know there is Witchfinder General too, but I'm not sure how much influence they have had.

I guess if I'm wrong about something, or there is something more to add, there is at least one 40+ doom expert who will correct me.

Finally I will also say that the only of the main genres I have excluded on the list so far is folk metal. That is not my genre, and I don't know if there is any singular band who deserves to be in the list. I know that Skyclad is considered to be the first folk metal band, but I have no idea of how much later folk metal bands were influenced directly from them, or developed sound independently of them, since there are so many different forms of folk music to take influences from, and it also took so many years from Skyclad until the genre became big.
Aristarchos - 20.08.2012 at 18:42  
I have now expanded the list to a top 60. If you think some influential band still is missing, just write a comment.
@gent_-_orange - 21.08.2012 at 01:47  
No Napalm Death? they are more influential to Grindcore then Carcass are.
Marcel Hubregtse - 21.08.2012 at 12:55  
The following I find puzzling

Quote:

"Theatre Of Tragedy
Created the beauty and the beast sound."


I don't know who started that beauty and beast sound but by the time Thetre Of Tragedy started The Gathering already had released two demo's and two full length studio albums which featured beauty and beast vocals
Mr. Doctor - 21.08.2012 at 14:32  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.08.2012 at 12:55
I don't know who started that beauty and beast sound but by the time Thetre Of Tragedy started The Gathering already had released two demo's and two full length studio albums which featured beauty and beast vocals


Also Paradise Lost featured some female vocals on Gothic by 1992... I still would say ToT are pretty influential in the gothic metal area... just not because of what has been written here.
Marcel Hubregtse - 21.08.2012 at 14:38  
Written by Mr. Doctor on 21.08.2012 at 14:32

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.08.2012 at 12:55
I don't know who started that beauty and beast sound but by the time Thetre Of Tragedy started The Gathering already had released two demo's and two full length studio albums which featured beauty and beast vocals


Also Paradise Lost featured some female vocals on Gothic by 1992... I still would say ToT are pretty influential in the gothic metal area... just not because of what has been written here.



Although Gothic featured some female vocals I wouldn't call the use of it there beauty and beast style because there really is no interaction between Nick's grunts the female vocals unlike what The Gathering did en ToT as well.
Marcel Hubregtse - 21.08.2012 at 14:43  
Written by Mr. Doctor on 21.08.2012 at 14:32

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.08.2012 at 12:55
I don't know who started that beauty and beast sound but by the time Thetre Of Tragedy started The Gathering already had released two demo's and two full length studio albums which featured beauty and beast vocals


Also Paradise Lost featured some female vocals on Gothic by 1992... I still would say ToT are pretty influential in the gothic metal area... just not because of what has been written here.



1992? / Gothic is from March 1991

I am not sure if The Gathering's second demo had already been released at the time, but their first demo was already a year old. And at that time of their first demo The Gathering had already played with Paradise Lost in The Netherlands. So it wouldn't surprise me that GOOD old The Gathering influenced Paradise Lost into using female vocals for the Gothic album.
Mr. Doctor - 21.08.2012 at 14:46  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.08.2012 at 14:43
1992? / Gothic is from March 1991

Argh, I read the years wrong when I went back to check in their profile.
Slayer666 - 21.08.2012 at 18:04  
Huh, I had no idea Possessed were the first to use growls. The more you know....
Aristarchos - 22.08.2012 at 12:50  
Written by @gent_-_orange on 21.08.2012 at 01:47

No Napalm Death? they are more influential to Grindcore then Carcass are.

I definitely agree that Napalm Death has been more influential to grindcore than Carcass, but I think of early Napalm Death more like a grindcore punk band than a grindcore metal band, and I wouldn't say their later death metal albums have been that influential, why I excluded them. Carcass was more death metal, and especially with "Heartwork" they also influenced melodic death metal.

Perhaps early Napalm Death deserves to be accepted as metal, and therefore also included in the list. It was a while ago I listened to them so I actually don't remember exactly how metallic they were, but I have heard them talking more of hardcore influences than metal influences. I'm not personally a fan of the whole grindcore genre. The only band I really enjoy in it is Terrorizer.
Aristarchos - 22.08.2012 at 13:18  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.08.2012 at 14:43

Written by Mr. Doctor on 21.08.2012 at 14:32

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.08.2012 at 12:55
I don't know who started that beauty and beast sound but by the time Thetre Of Tragedy started The Gathering already had released two demo's and two full length studio albums which featured beauty and beast vocals


Also Paradise Lost featured some female vocals on Gothic by 1992... I still would say ToT are pretty influential in the gothic metal area... just not because of what has been written here.



1992? / Gothic is from March 1991

I am not sure if The Gathering's second demo had already been released at the time, but their first demo was already a year old. And at that time of their first demo The Gathering had already played with Paradise Lost in The Netherlands. So it wouldn't surprise me that GOOD old The Gathering influenced Paradise Lost into using female vocals for the Gothic album.

Yes, I formulated myself incorrectly. I know Paradise Lost and The Gathering were earlier. Actually, I haven't heard early The Gathering, so I couldn't say how they sound, but I have heard Paradise Lost's Gothic album, and I wouldn't call it beauty and the beast in the vain of Theatre of Tragedy. According to wikipedia "Paradise Lost and The Gathering had already made use of [the beauy and the beast] technique on some songs from their earlier albums but it was the Norwegian Theatre of Tragedy that first released an entire album devoted to this approach with their self-titled debut in 1995.".

The Gathering was definitely one of the candidates for the list. I'm not sure how many bands have mentioned them as an influence; probably a couple, since they were one of the originators of its genre; but I really had no idea they even could have been influential for Paradise Lost. I have only heard Paradise Lost talking about Celtic Frost as an influence. I haven't found what Theatre of Tragedy mentions as their main influence, but probably they were influenced by both Paradise Lost and The Gathering. Neither I'm not sure of how much later beauty and the beast bands were influenced by The Gathering or most by Theatre of Tragedy.

This list really gets harder the longer I make it, but as long as noone has any more objections, except from my formulation, I will keep Theatre of Tragedy over The Gathering until further.
@gent_-_orange - 22.08.2012 at 16:39  
Written by Aristarchos on 22.08.2012 at 12:50


Perhaps early Napalm Death deserves to be accepted as metal, and therefore also included in the list. It was a while ago I listened to them so I actually don't remember exactly how metallic they were, but I have heard them talking more of hardcore influences than metal influences. I'm not personally a fan of the whole grindcore genre. The only band I really enjoy in it is Terrorizer.


By early Napalm Death I assume you are talking about the Scum / From Enslavement to obliteration era (their first two albums) They are Definitely Hardcore Influenced but More than Metal enough to get on this list, Even some of their later demo's could get on this list. I see what you are trying to say though, As Grind is in that Grey area between Metal and Punk, I just don't agree with it.
Aristarchos - 24.08.2012 at 12:09  
Written by @gent_-_orange on 22.08.2012 at 16:39

Written by Aristarchos on 22.08.2012 at 12:50


Perhaps early Napalm Death deserves to be accepted as metal, and therefore also included in the list. It was a while ago I listened to them so I actually don't remember exactly how metallic they were, but I have heard them talking more of hardcore influences than metal influences. I'm not personally a fan of the whole grindcore genre. The only band I really enjoy in it is Terrorizer.


By early Napalm Death I assume you are talking about the Scum / From Enslavement to obliteration era (their first two albums) They are Definitely Hardcore Influenced but More than Metal enough to get on this list, Even some of their later demo's could get on this list. I see what you are trying to say though, As Grind is in that Grey area between Metal and Punk, I just don't agree with it.

Yes, I'm talking about their first two albums. I don't know how influential their later albums have been. But you win, I will add them. I decided to give them number 19, I hope that is appropriate. Since grindcore (or any hardcore/metal hybrid genre) isn't my genre, I'm not sure if any of the other early grindcore bands deserve to be on the list as well.
Aristarchos - 24.08.2012 at 13:50  
I have now expanded the list into a top 80. Since I think I've already brought most of the classic influential bands, I now focused on more modern bands (last 20 years). But if you still think some band is missing, there is always possibilites for further expansions.
BitterCOld - 24.08.2012 at 20:18  
If you are going to discuss Alternative Metal, Jane's Addiction is probably more influential than FNM. while FNM was more popular, Jane's Addiction was also very popular back in the day. Their approach included artsy elements, but particularly on "Nothing's Shocking" (which came out in 1988, pre-dating FNM's rise to more mainstream prominence with "The Real Thing") and the first half of "Ritual..." is far more inline with traditional metal, especially in regards to guitar solos.

and while FNM got more radio play, that whole Lollapalooza thing, which for the first 4-5 years was hugely important for promoting alternative music, which incorporated a lot of various styles (including metal), was originally created by Perry Farrel as the Jane's Addiction farewell tour.

if FNM deserves a Top 10 spot in regards to influence, Jane's merits inclusion in the top 80...

Aristarchos - 27.08.2012 at 13:35  
Written by BitterCOld on 24.08.2012 at 20:18

If you are going to discuss Alternative Metal, Jane's Addiction is probably more influential than FNM. while FNM was more popular, Jane's Addiction was also very popular back in the day. Their approach included artsy elements, but particularly on "Nothing's Shocking" (which came out in 1988, pre-dating FNM's rise to more mainstream prominence with "The Real Thing") and the first half of "Ritual..." is far more inline with traditional metal, especially in regards to guitar solos.

and while FNM got more radio play, that whole Lollapalooza thing, which for the first 4-5 years was hugely important for promoting alternative music, which incorporated a lot of various styles (including metal), was originally created by Perry Farrel as the Jane's Addiction farewell tour.

if FNM deserves a Top 10 spot in regards to influence, Jane's merits inclusion in the top 80...



Thanks for your comment!

First of all I must say that I'm not a big fan of alternative metal overall, and I'm not sure of how influential different bands have been.

I see a lot bands mention FNM as an influence; for example I have seen KoRn mentioned them as their main influences. I know KoRn have mentioned Jane's too as an influence (as well as they have mentioned a lot other bands). I have also heard Rage Against The Machine talking about Jane's Addiction as a big influence, but I think they were influenced by FNM too.

The big question I want to ask is whether Jane's Addiction really could be accepted as metal. If they really are, then why aren't they featured on metalstorm? I'm not sure if FNM really is fully accepted as metal either and I hesitated a lot before I included them. But FNM is at least tagged as alternative metal on this site, and even featured on metalarchives.com, something that not many alternative metal bands are.

Perhaps I have overrated the influence of FNM, but I have seen them mentioned as the inventor of the entire alternative metal genre (for example on wikipedia; I know it's not a reliable source)? Perhaps the best thing to do is to exclude both FNM and Jane's on the list?
Aristarchos - 28.08.2012 at 12:25  
I have now expanded the list to a top 100.
Aristarchos - 17.09.2012 at 09:24  
By the way, why isn't Graveland featured on MS? I suppose it is because their nazis, but then why is Burzum featured? I hate nazis so I respect the exclusion, I just wonder what is the difference.
Vombatus - 17.09.2012 at 13:10  
Written by Aristarchos on 17.09.2012 at 09:24

By the way, why isn't Graveland featured on MS? I suppose it is because their nazis, but then why is Burzum featured? I hate nazis so I respect the exclusion, I just wonder what is the difference.


I thought the same thing, both bands are very similar in that aspects. Both musicians have ideologies that can be linked to far-right, though they don't express themselves as NS (Darken even said NS isn't the way to go nowadays, that other forms should take it's place).

And most importantly, both bands make a clear distinction between the person behind the project and the band itself (clearly stating they don't want their ideologies to be mixed to the band).

Main diference probably is that Burzum has a more mystic/legends/darkness theme, while Graveland is very focused on honor, pride and homeland, which makes some people think it's automatically NS (I don't have Graveland booklets near me, but I think there weren't any strict NS reference...).

But I understand MS opinion, they want no risk.
nicaZe - 19.09.2012 at 00:05  
Savatage is band who probably have very much influences in creating of gothic/symphonic metal from their Gutter Ballet to their last album Poets And Madmen.


Aristarchos - 21.09.2012 at 16:55  
Written by nicaZe on 19.09.2012 at 00:05

Savatage is band who probably have very much influences in creating of gothic/symphonic metal from their Gutter Ballet to their last album Poets And Madmen.


I already have Savatage on number 47. Don't you think that is enough for them?
Lit. - 27.09.2012 at 05:59  
How about bands that influenced Crossover like Suicidal Tendencies, S.O.D., D.R.I.?
Aristarchos - 01.10.2012 at 14:23  
Written by Lit. on 27.09.2012 at 05:59

How about bands that influenced Crossover like Suicidal Tendencies, S.O.D., D.R.I.?

Actually I had that genre in mind, but since that is one genre I don't listen to I excluded them for two reasons.

1. Since I don't listen to them I'm not sure how metal that genre is, or if it is more hardcore, but I guess it's metal enough to include, but that wasn't my main reason to exclude these bands.
2. My main reason for excluding these bands: Since I don't listen to that genre I don't know what bands who have been most influential for that genre, and deserves to be included.

So, if you first convince me that it is metal enough for this list, and then teach me a little more about the history of crossover thrash I will include at least one of them.
Aristarchos - 04.10.2012 at 17:37  
If someone else know more about crossover thrash or have any useful link I would appreciate it.
Aristarchos - 06.10.2012 at 16:18  
Written by Lit. on 27.09.2012 at 05:59

How about bands that influenced Crossover like Suicidal Tendencies, S.O.D., D.R.I.?

Since I haven't got any reply yet I will add these band just outside top 100. If I find, or anyone gives me, a better description of the history of crossover I might adjust it later. And wasn't Corrosion Of Conformity quite influential in that genre too? I'm thinking of adding them too.
Aristarchos - 06.10.2012 at 16:41  
To make an even number I expanded the list to a top 140.
Aristarchos - 20.11.2012 at 13:01  
I have chosen ten more bands so now it is a 150 top.
Aristarchos - 02.01.2013 at 13:22  
Written by Lit. on 27.09.2012 at 05:59

How about bands that influenced Crossover like Suicidal Tendencies, S.O.D., D.R.I.?

I have checked out the crossover thrash bands now. They sounded more interesting than I had expected. Especially liked Suicidal Tendencies - Lights Camera Revolution and Carnivore - Retaliation. Still not sure which of these bands that deserves to be highest on the list. Anyway I included Carnivore too in the list for their influence on for example the sludge genre.
Marcel Hubregtse - 02.01.2013 at 13:33  
Written by Aristarchos on 02.01.2013 at 13:22

Anyway I included Carnivore too in the list for their influence on for example the sludge genre.


wtf?
Aristarchos - 03.01.2013 at 16:50  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2013 at 13:33

Written by Aristarchos on 02.01.2013 at 13:22

Anyway I included Carnivore too in the list for their influence on for example the sludge genre.


wtf?

I have read an interview with Crowbar in Sweden Rock Magazine where they mention Carnivore as one of their major influences, and according to the wikipedia page for Eyehategod, they too mention Carnivore as one of their major influences. And next to Melvins and Neurosis I guess that Crowbar and Eyehategod have been the two most influential bands in the sludge genre.
Marcel Hubregtse - 04.01.2013 at 16:07  
Written by Aristarchos on 03.01.2013 at 16:50

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2013 at 13:33

Written by Aristarchos on 02.01.2013 at 13:22

Anyway I included Carnivore too in the list for their influence on for example the sludge genre.


wtf?

I have read an interview with Crowbar in Sweden Rock Magazine where they mention Carnivore as one of their major influences, and according to the wikipedia page for Eyehategod, they too mention Carnivore as one of their major influences. And next to Melvins and Neurosis I guess that Crowbar and Eyehategod have been the two most influential bands in the sludge genre.


lots of those bands will also mention Kiss as their influence, but that doesn't make Kiss influential for the sludge genre.
Aristarchos - 05.01.2013 at 13:06  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.01.2013 at 16:07

lots of those bands will also mention Kiss as their influence, but that doesn't make Kiss influential for the sludge genre.

Anyway, I guess Carnivore have been influential enough to be included on the list, don't you agree with that?
Aristarchos - 27.02.2013 at 18:12  
I discovered I had left out Vulcano. I definitely think they deserve to be on the list for starting the South American extreme metal scene and influencing bands like Sarcofago and Sepultura. I put them in on a random position.
Erik M. - 27.02.2013 at 23:35  
I'm sorry, but this list is way too long for its own good. Why don't you just list two or three bands per metal subgenre that pioneered the genre? And order them properly... you'd still have a pretty big list then, but 150 is way too much in my opinion, for "influential" bands.
Aristarchos - 04.03.2013 at 18:52  
Written by Erik M. on 27.02.2013 at 23:35

I'm sorry, but this list is way too long for its own good. Why don't you just list two or three bands per metal subgenre that pioneered the genre? And order them properly... you'd still have a pretty big list then, but 150 is way too much in my opinion, for "influential" bands.

I think there are too many bands that have been part of shaping the metal genre for a short list, but if you want a shorter list you can only look at top 40. These are what I consider the most essential bands, that was how far I came when I still really tried to weigh every position against each other, after that it became impossible, although I have tried the best I can. If you have any objections against my order you can express them, I'm only glad for all feedback I receive.

I have no idea if anyone else cares about this list, but at least I think it has been very fun doing this list, and I have learnt a lot by all the research I have put down on it, and also by some of the comments so far.
SilentShredder - 23.01.2014 at 19:37  
I couldn't agree more with this list than I already do and all these bands definitely deserve a place here, but I don't know why Killing Joke isn't on this list. They started/heavily influenced industrial rock and metal in their later years and laid the foundation of Godflesh, not to mention influencing some of today's most well-known metal bands like Metallica, Korn, Slipknot, Ministry, even Nirvana and Soundgarden (although they're more grunge than metal). If any revision needs to be made to this list, Killing Joke needs a spot on it.
Aristarchos - 31.01.2014 at 18:10  
Written by SilentShredder on 23.01.2014 at 19:37

I couldn't agree more with this list than I already do and all these bands definitely deserve a place here, but I don't know why Killing Joke isn't on this list. They started/heavily influenced industrial rock and metal in their later years and laid the foundation of Godflesh, not to mention influencing some of today's most well-known metal bands like Metallica, Korn, Slipknot, Ministry, even Nirvana and Soundgarden (although they're more grunge than metal). If any revision needs to be made to this list, Killing Joke needs a spot on it.

Thanks! I agree Killing Joke being hugely influential for metal but I have never considered them metal enough for the list.
vgmaster9 - 13.09.2014 at 04:37  
No Iced Earth? Seriously?

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