Most Talented Vocalists In Metal


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Tasty Stuff Not Currently Featured On MS
So I Heard You Like Opeth...

A concise list of my metalhead man-crushes (now featuring ladies.)

While there is little introduction required for some of these bands and their front(wo)men, there are no words that can accurately describe such jaw-dropping talent anyhow. The albums and youtube links listed are meant to display the full capacity of vocalists' talents, not the bands' most quality or popular tracks - click the links below and behold the prowess.

Many tears will be shed on your behalf if your favourite vocalist isn't here. That being said, any suggestions are more than welcome. A star (★) indicates that the vocalist is exceptionally versatile. If you believe that a certain vocalist deserves a (currently unaccredited) star, then post a few YouTube tracks to support your case.

Avoided criteria:
- Consistency with live performances
- Emotional delivery
- Ability to write aurally appealing vocal lines
- Ability to compliment the music

i.e. The style performances are judged solely on technical ability.

Here are the tracks I've allocated to the vocalists so far in the order of the list below. If you have suggestion which better showcases any vocalist's talents or if any of the link aren't working, please let me know.
Abstrakt Algebra - Mats Levén
Akercocke - Jason Mendonca #1 and #2
Amorphis - Tomi Joutsen
Anaal Nathrakh - David "V.I.T.R.I.O.L." Hunt
Animals As Leaders - Frans Aalto ★★★★★★★★★★★
Avatarium - Jennie-Ann Smith
Avenged Sevenfold - Matthew "M. Shadows" Sanders #1 and #2
Beyond The Bridge - Herbie Langhans
Caligula's Horse - Jim Grey
Candlemass - Johan Längqvist
Cattle Decapitation - Travis Ryan
Centiment - Dave McPherson #1, #2, and #3
Chrome Division - Pål "Athera" Mathisen
Communic - Oddleif Stensland
Dark Suns - Niko Knappe #1 and #2
Devin Townsend - Devin Townsend
Dissona - Dave Dubenic
Disturbed David Michael Draiman
Dream Theater - Kevin James LaBrie #1 and #2 (vocal range and impressive performances)
Emperor (Ihsahn) - Vegard Sverre "Ihsahn" Tveitan
Empyrios - Silvio Mancini
Estradasphere - Tim Smolens (57:33)
Evereve - Tom Sedotschenko
Evergrey - Tom S. Englund
Evile - Matthew "Matt" Drake
Exodus - Steve "Zetro" Souza
Favna Abisal - Melanocetus Jhonsoni
Feared - Mario Santos-Ramos
Gojira - Joseph "Joe" Duplantier
Gorefest - Jan-Chris de Koeijer #1 and #2
Grave Digger - Chris Boltendahl
Haken - Ross Jennings #1, #2, and #3
Hamferð - Jón Aldará #1 and #2
Heavatar - Stefan Schmidt
Hell - David Bower
Helloween - Andi Deris
HIM - Ville Hermanni Valo
Ice Age - Josh Pincus
ICS Vortex - Simen "ICS Vortex" Hestnæs
In Vain - Sindre Nedland #1 and #2
Iron Maiden - Paul Bruce Dickinson #1 and #2
King Crimson - Adrian Belew
King Diamond - Kim "King Diamond" Bendix Petersen
Lamb Of God - David Randall "Randy" Blythe
Leprous - Einar Solberg
Loch Vostok - Teddy "Dr. Ted Killer Miller" Möller #1 and #2
Machine Head - Robert "Robb" Flynn
Masterplan - Jørn Lande
Mayhem - Attila Gábor Csihar #1 and #2 (~4:10)
Moonspell - Fernando Ribeiro
Nevermore - Warrel Dane
Noekk - Thomas Helm
Omb - Davidavi Dolev Too much vocal variety - you'll just have to listen to the entire album. ★
Opeth (Bloodbath) - Mikael Åkerfeldt #1, #2, and #3
Overkill - Bobby "Blitz" Ellsworth
Pagan's Mind - Nils Kvåle Rue
Pain Of Salvation - Daniel Gildenlöw
Paradise Lost - Nick Holmes
Periphery - Spencer Sotelo
Pinkly Smooth - James "The Reverend Tholomew Plague" Sullivan
Primal Fear - Ralf Scheepers
Protest The Hero - Rody "Cheese" Walker
Psycroptic - Matthew "Chalky" Chalk
Rishloo - Andrew Mailloux
Riverside - Mariusz Duda
Savage Circus (Persuader/Dark Empire) - Jens Carlsson
Savatage - John Nicholas "Jon" Oliva
Scar Symmetry - Christian Älvestam
Shaolin Death Squad - Androo O'Hearn
Sieges Even - Greg Keller
Soldis - Del Tremens - tracks 1,4, 7
Space Odyssey - David Fremberg
Stravaganzza - Leo Jiménez
Sword - Rick Hughes
Symphony X - Russell Allen
System Of A Down - Serj Tankian #1 and #2
Tesseract - Daniel Tompkins #1 and #2
Tesseract - Ashe O'Hara
Testament - Chuck Billy
Textures - Daniel de Jongh
Textures - Eric Kalsbeek
The Foreshadowing - Marco Benevento
The Gathering - Anneke Van Giersbergen
The Mars Volta - Cedric Bixler-Zavala
Tool - Maynard James Keenan
Triptykon - Tom Gabriel "Warrior" Fischer #1 and #2
Twelve Foot Ninja - Nik "Kin" Etik
Twilight Of The Gods (Primordial/Dread Sovereign) - Alan "Nemtheanga" Averill
Uneven Structure - Matthieu Romarin
Unhuman - Youri Raymond (track 3)
Veni Domine - Fredrik Ohlsson
Vintersorg - Andreas "Vintersorg" Hedlund
Virgin Black - Rowan London #1, #2, and #3
Vulture Industries - Bjørnar Erevik Nilsen #1 (37:43) and #2 (43:30)
W.A.S.P. - Steven Edward "Blackie Lawless" Duren
Warning - Patrick Walker
Winds (Before The Dawn) - Lars "Eikind" Eric Si
Wintersun - Jari Mäenpää
Witherscape - Dan Swanö
Wolverine - Stefan Zell
Xanthochroid - Matthew Earl #1 (3:05) and #2 (sexy blonde dude)
Xanthochroid - Sam Meador

No working links or properly ascribed stars below this point. Please suggest song(s) for the vocalist(s) below if you have any insight into their best work.

Adagio - David Readman
Arcturus - Kristoffer "Garm" Rygg
Blind Guardian - Hansi Kürsch
Candlemass - Messiah Marcolin
Cradle Of Filth - Daniel Lloyd "Dani Filth" Davey
Demilich - Antti "C. Void" "Von Stroh" Boman
Diablo Swing Orchestra - Annlouice Loegdlund
Dio - Ronald James "Ronnie Dio" Padavona
Disillusion - Andy "Vurtox" Schmidt of Disillusion
Headspace - Damian Wilson
Iced Earth - Matthew "Matt" Barlow
Iced Earth - Stuart "Stu" Block
Iced Earth - Tim "Ripper" Owens
Judas Priest - Robert John Arthur "Rob" Halford
Madder Mortem - Agnete M. Kirkevaag
Pantera - Philip Hansen "Phil" Anselmo
Pharaoh - Tim Aymar
Retarded Noise Squad - Unknown vocalist
Scariot - Øyvind "Maztema" Hægeland
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Nils Frykdahl
Sodom - Tom "Angelripper" Such
Spires - Paul Sadler
Stolen Babies - Dominique Lenore Persi
The Wandering Midget - Samuel "Qraken" Wormius
Tomahawk (Mr. Bungle, Faith No More, Fantômas) - Michael Allan "Mike" Patton
Vangough - Clay Withrow
Vektor - David Disanto
Wastefall - Domenik Papaemmanouil

Pending considerations - please recommend songs for the vocalists below:
- Acid Witch - Lasse Pyykkö
- Anubis Gate - Jacob Hansen
- Artillery - Flemming Rönsdorf
- Atrox - Rune Folgerø
- Bathory - Tomas "Ace" "Quorthon" Forsberg
- Crimson Glory - John Patrick Jr. "Midnight" McDonald
- Darkwater -Henrik Båth
- Devil Doll - Mr. Doctor
- Fates Warning - Ray Alder
- Fates Warning John Arch
- Holy Moses - Sabina Classen
- Kamelot - Roy "Khan" Sætre Khantatat
- Lake of Tears - Daniel Brennare
- Marduk - Daniel "Mortuus" Rostén
- Mist Within - Alireza ''Safires'' Motevasel
- Mortillery - Cara McCutchen
- Novembers Doom - Paul Kuhr
- Queensrÿche - Geoff Tate
- Seventh Wonder - Tommy Karevik
- Skid Row - Sebastian "Bach" Philip Bierk
- While Heaven Wept - Rain Irving
- Within Temptation - Sharon den Adel
- Yearning - Juhani Palomäki

Created by: LeKiwi | 03.05.2013



1. Abstrakt Algebra - Abstrakt Algebra
1995 / Mats Levén
2. Adagio - Underworld
2003 / David Readman
3. Akercocke - Words That Go Unspoken, Deeds That Go Undone
2005 / Jason Mendonca
4. Amorphis - Silent Waters
2007 / Tomi Joutsen
5. Anaal Nathrakh - Vanitas
2012 / David "V.I.T.R.I.O.L." Hunt
6. Animals As Leaders - Weightless
2011 / Frans Aalto
7. Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors
2002 / Kristoffer "Garm" Rygg
8. Avatarium - Avatarium
2013 / Jennie-Ann Smith
9. Avenged Sevenfold - City Of Evil
2005 / Matthew "M. Shadows" Sanders
10. Beyond The Bridge - The Old Man And The Spirit
2012 / Herbie Langhans
11. Blind Guardian - At The Edge Of Time
2010 / Hansi Kürsch
12. Caligula's Horse - Moments From Ephemeral City
2011 / Jim Grey
13. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
1986 / Johan Längqvist
14. Candlemass - Nightfall
1987 / Messiah Marcolin
15. Cattle Decapitation - Monolith Of Inhumanity
2012 / Travis Ryan
16. Centiment - Streets Of Rage
2014 / Dave McPherson
17. Chrome Division - 3rd Round Knockout
2011 / Pål "Athera" Mathisen
18. Communic - Waves Of Visual Decay
2006 / Oddleif Stensland
19. Cradle Of Filth - Dusk... And Her Embrace
1996 / Daniel Lloyd "Dani Filth" Davey
20. Dark Suns - Grave Human Genuine
2008 / Niko Knappe
21. Demilich - Nespithe
1993 / Antti "C. Void" "Von Stroh" Boman
22. Devin Townsend - Accelerated Evolution
2003 / Devin Townsend
23. Diablo Swing Orchestra - The Butcher's Ballroom
2006 / Annlouice Loegdlund
24. Dio - Holy Diver
1983 / Ronald James "Ronnie Dio" Padavona
25. Disillusion - Back To Times Of Splendor
2004 / Andy "Vurtox" Schmidt
26. Dissona - Dissona
2012 / Dave Dubenic
27. Disturbed - Asylum
2010 / David Michael Draiman
28. Dream Theater - Awake
1994 / Kevin James LaBrie
29. Emperor - Prometheus: The Discipline Of Fire And Demise
2001 / Vegard Sverre "Ihsahn" Tveitan
30. Empyrios - Zion
2013 / Silvio Mancini
31. Estradasphere - Quadropus
2003 / Tim Smolens
32. Evereve - Stormbirds
1998 / Tom Sedotschenko
33. Evergrey - Recreation Day
2003 / Tom S. Englund
34. Evile - Skull
2013 / Matthew "Matt" Drake
35. Exodus - Tempo Of The Damned
2004 / Steve "Zetro" Souza
36. Favna Abisal - Rerum Imaginaria
2012 / Melanocetus Jhonsoni
37. Feared - Vinter
2013 / Mario Santos-Ramos
38. Gojira - From Mars To Sirius
2005 / Joseph "Joe" Duplantier
39. Gorefest - Rise To Ruin
2007 / Jan-Chris de Koeijer
40. Grave Digger - The Grave Digger
2001 / Chris Boltendahl
41. Haken - The Mountain
2013 / Ross Jennings
42. Hamferð - Evst
2013 / Jón Aldará
43. Headspace - I Am Anonymous
2012 / Damian Wilson
44. Heavatar - Opus I - All My Kingdoms / Stefan Schmidt
45. Hell - Human Remains
2011 / David Bower
46. Helloween - Straight Out Of Hell
2013 / Andi Deris
47. HIM - Venus Doom
2007 / Ville Hermanni Valo
48. Ice Age - The Great Divide
1999 / Josh Pincus
49. Iced Earth - Dystopia
2011 / Stuart "Stu" Block
50. Iced Earth - The Crucible Of Man (Something Wicked - Part 2)
2008 / Matthew "Matt" Barlow
51. Iced Earth - The Glorious Burden
2004 / Tim "Ripper" Owens
52. ICS Vortex - Storm Seeker
2011 / Simen "ICS Vortex" Hestnæs
53. In Vain - Ænigma
2013 / Sindre Nedland
54. Iron Maiden - A Matter Of Life And Death
2006 / Paul Bruce Dickinson
55. Judas Priest - Angel Of Retribution
2005 / Robert John Arthur "Rob" Halford
56. King Crimson - EleKtrik: Live In Japan
2003 / Adrian Belew
57. King Diamond - "Them"
1988 / Kim "King Diamond" Bendix Petersen
58. Lamb Of God - Wrath
2009 / David Randall "Randy" Blythe
59. Leprous - Bilateral
2011 / Einar Solberg
60. Loch Vostok - V: The Doctrine Decoded
2012 / Teddy "Dr. Ted Killer Miller" Möller
61. Machine Head - The Blackening
2007 / Robert "Robb" Flynn
62. Madder Mortem - Eight Ways
2009 / Agnete M. Kirkevaag
63. Masterplan - Masterplan
2003 / Jørn Lande
64. Mayan - Quarterpast
2011 / Henning Basse
65. Mayhem - Ordo Ad Chao
2007 / Attila Gábor Csihar
66. Moonspell - Irreligious
1996 / Fernando Ribeiro
67. Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor
2005 / Warrel Dane
68. Noekk - The Water Sprite
2005 / Thomas Helm
69. Omb - SwineSong
2013 / Davidavi Dolev
70. Opeth - Watershed
2008 / Mikael Åkerfeldt
71. Overkill - The Electric Age
2012 / Bobby "Blitz" Ellsworth
72. Pagan's Mind - Heavenly Ecstasy
2011 / Nils Kvåle Rue
73. Pain Of Salvation - The Perfect Element, Part I
2000 / Daniel Gildenlöw
74. Pantera - Vulgar Display Of Power
1992 / Philip Hansen "Phil" Anselmo
75. Paradise Lost - Faith Divides Us - Death Unites Us
2009 / Nick Holmes
76. Periphery - Periphery II: This Time It's Personal
2012 / Spencer Sotelo
77. Pharaoh - Bury The Light
2012 / Tim Aymar
78. Pinkly Smooth - Unfortunate Snort
2002 / James "The Reverend Tholomew Plague" Sullivan
79. Primal Fear - Delivering The Black
2014 / Ralf Scheepers
80. Protest The Hero - Fortress
2008 / Rody "Cheese" Walker
81. Psycroptic - The Scepter Of The Ancients
2003 / Matthew "Chalky" Chalk
82. Retarded Noise Squad - Bananas
2011 / Unknown vocalist
83. Rishloo - Feathergun
2009 / Andrew Mailloux
84. Riverside - Out Of Myself
2003 / Mariusz Duda
85. Savage Circus - Of Doom And Death
2009 / Jens Carlsson
86. Savatage - Hall Of The Mountain King
1987 / John Nicholas "Jon" Oliva
87. Scar Symmetry - Pitch Black Progress
2006 / Christian Älvestam
88. Scariot - Momentum Shift
2007 / Øyvind "Maztema" Hægeland
89. Shaolin Death Squad - Intelligent Design
2006 / Androo O'Hearn
90. Sieges Even - Sophisticated
1995 / Greg Keller
91. Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - In Glorious Times
2007 / Nils Frykdahl
92. Sodom - Sodom
2006 / Tom "Angelripper" Such
93. Soldis - Age D
2013 / Del Tremens
94. Space Odyssey - The Astral Episode
2005 / David Fremberg
95. Spires - Spiral Of Ascension
2010 / Paul Sadler
96. Stolen Babies - There Be Squabbles Ahead
2006 / Dominique Lenore Persi
97. Stravaganzza - Raíces
2010 / Leo Jiménez
98. Sword - Sweet Dreams
1988 / Rick Hughes
99. Symphony X - The Odyssey
2002 / Russell Allen
100. System Of A Down - Toxicity
2001 / Serj Tankian
101. Tesseract - Altered State
2013 / Ashe O'Hara
102. Tesseract - Concealing Fate
2010 / Daniel Tompkins
103. Testament - The Formation Of Damnation
2008 / Chuck Billy
104. Textures - Dualism
2011 / Daniel de Jongh
105. Textures - Silhouettes
2008 / Eric Kalsbeek
106. The Foreshadowing - Days Of Nothing
2007 / Marco Benevento
107. The Gathering - Mandylion
1995 / Anneke Van Giersbergen
108. The Mars Volta - De-Loused In The Comatorium
2003 / Cedric Bixler-Zavala
109. The Wandering Midget - From The Meadows Of Opium Dreams
2012 / Samuel "Qraken" Wormius
110. Tomahawk - Oddfellows
2013 / Michael Allan "Mike" Patton
111. Tool - Lateralus
2001 / Maynard James Keenan
112. Triptykon - Eparistera Daimones
2010 / Tom Gabriel "Warrior" Fischer
113. Twelve Foot Ninja - Silent Machine
2012 / Nik "Kin" Etik
114. Twilight Of The Gods - Fire On The Mountain
2013 / Alan "Nemtheanga" Averill
115. Uneven Structure - Februus
2011 / Matthieu Romarin
116. Unhuman - Unhuman
2013 / Youri Raymond
117. Vangough - Between The Madness
2013 / Clay Withrow
118. Vektor - Outer Isolation
2011 / David Disanto
119. Veni Domine - Spiritual Wasteland
1998 / Fredrik Ohlsson
120. Vintersorg - Orkan
2012 / Andreas "Vintersorg" Hedlund
121. Virgin Black - Elegant...And Dying
2003 / Rowan London
122. Vulture Industries - The Tower
2013 / Bjørnar Erevik Nilsen
123. W.A.S.P. - The Crimson Idol
1992 / Steven Edward "Blackie Lawless" Duren
124. Warning - Watching From A Distance
2006 / Patrick Walker
125. Wastefall - Self Exile
2006 / Domenik Papaemmanouil
126. Winds - The Imaginary Direction Of Time
2004 / Lars "Eikind" Eric Si
127. Wintersun - Wintersun
2004 / Jari Mäenpää
128. Witherscape - The Inheritance
2013 / Dan Swanö
129. Wolverine - Communication Lost
2011 / Stefan Zell
130. Xanthochroid - Blessed He With Boils
2012 / Matthew Earl
131. Xanthochroid - Blessed He With Boils
2012 / Sam Meador



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04.10.2013 - 17:33
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by LeKiwi on 04.10.2013 at 17:31

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.10.2013 at 17:29

Even what one deems talent is a highly subjective matter. For one it already varies a lot from genre to genre.

Not at all. If the style is easy to perform, it requires little talent. Simple as that


that would mean only avantgarde jazz has talent in it
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04.10.2013 - 17:34
!J.O.O.E.!
Defunct
Written by LeKiwi on 04.10.2013 at 01:43

Too much reverb in the vocal mix to hear what he actually sounds like :S

Yet you have Uneven Structure's vocalist on the list. By most definitions a very normal vocalist layered with effects and reverb. I like Uneven Structure but I would not cite the vocalist is a standout talent in any way. This itself highlights the weakness in your argument about talent being an objective viewpoint.
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04.10.2013 - 17:37
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by Erik M. on 04.10.2013 at 17:32

Even though it's not specifically in your description, you have mentioned multiple times that a vocalist needs to be versatile. But now you're basically indirectly saying that you don't think Patrick Walker is superior at his particular vocal style?

I've never stated that have I? I've not made a proper update in a long time. I'm at university. I have things to do. Patrick may or not see his presence on this list. If someone thinks I'm doing this list wrong or untimely they can do it themselves in all honesty.
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04.10.2013 - 17:46
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 04.10.2013 at 17:34

Yet you have Uneven Structure's vocalist on the list. By most definitions a very normal vocalist layered with effects and reverb. I like Uneven Structure but I would not cite the vocalist is a standout talent in any way. This itself highlights the weakness in your argument about talent being an objective viewpoint.

Check out the song I linked for Uneven Structure halfway through where there are hardly any effects used other than the normal reverb most vocalists use. Even if I am unable to objectively decide which vocalists are talented, the fact remains that talent is objective. That being said, it's very possible that some of my list is subjective. I can't help being human
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04.10.2013 - 17:47
Erik M.
Written by LeKiwi on 04.10.2013 at 17:37

I've never stated that have I? I've not made a proper update in a long time. I'm at university. I have things to do. Patrick may or not see his presence on this list. If someone thinks I'm doing this list wrong or untimely they can do it themselves in all honesty.


You said "If the vocalist clearly superior at a particular vocal style then I'll add him, i.e. Stefan from Wolverine". Seeing as you haven't added and might never add Patrick Walker, it means you don't think he is great at his particular vocal style. And that right there would be totally baffling to me, since whether you like his vocals or not, he's clearly doing a great job in the vocal department. And yes, you said you might add him, but since you haven't done that by now means you're not convinced (yet) that he should be here. In the end it's your own choice of course, but then just change the name of the list into: "My Favourite Vocalists In Metal" or something like that.
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04.10.2013 - 17:48
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.10.2013 at 17:33

that would mean only avantgarde jazz has talent in it

Only? I'm sure there are other genres difficult to perform
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04.10.2013 - 17:48
!J.O.O.E.!
Defunct
Written by LeKiwi on 04.10.2013 at 17:46

Check out the song I linked for Uneven Structure halfway through where there are hardly any effects used other than the normal reverb most vocalists use. Even if I am unable to objectively decide which vocalists are talented, the fact remains that talent is objective. That being said, it's very possible that some of my list is subjective. I can't help being human

If "talent" truly is objective, then perhaps you could please explain the existence of Britain / America's Got Talent.
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04.10.2013 - 17:53
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by Erik M. on 04.10.2013 at 17:47

You said "If the vocalist clearly superior at a particular vocal style then I'll add him, i.e. Stefan from Wolverine". Seeing as you haven't added and might never add Patrick Walker, it means you don't think he is great at his particular vocal style. And that right there would be totally baffling to me, since whether you like his vocals or not, he's clearly doing a great job in the vocal department. And yes, you said you might add him, but since you haven't done that by now means you're not convinced (yet) that he should be here. In the end it's your own choice of course, but then just change the name of the list into: "My Favourite Vocalists In Metal" or something like that.

You're not understanding. If I want to add someone to this list, I want to do it correctly, with the perfect song at hand or obtainable in the foreseeable future. In the case of Patrick, I much enjoyed his vocals on Warning, honestly. So please discontinue with the argument of "you dislike him." I'm busy, however when the time comes I'll sit down and properly check out several of the vocalists you mentioned since I know what I'm looking for in the songs.
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04.10.2013 - 17:54
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 04.10.2013 at 17:48

If "talent" truly is objective, then perhaps you could please explain the existence of Britain / America's Got Talent.

I can't, I don't watch it since it's a joke
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04.10.2013 - 17:58
Erik M.
Written by LeKiwi on 04.10.2013 at 17:53

You're not understanding. If I want to add someone to this list, I want to do it correctly, with the perfect song at hand or obtainable in the foreseeable future. In the case of Patrick, I much enjoyed his vocals on Warning, honestly. So please discontinue with the argument of "you dislike him." I'm busy, however when the time comes I'll sit down and properly check out several of the vocalists you mentioned since I know what I'm looking for in the songs.


Well, the song "Watching From a Distance" by Warning might be the best choice for this list. I know you're searching for the "perfect" song, but sometimes a song like that simply doesn't exist.
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04.10.2013 - 18:01
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by Erik M. on 04.10.2013 at 17:58

Well, the song "Watching From a Distance" by Warning might be the best choice for this list. I know you're searching for the "perfect" song, but sometimes a song like that simply doesn't exist.

I'm very meticulous, and that is not a blessing. I WILL find "that" song In due time of course.
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04.10.2013 - 21:38
qlacs
"The Quaker"
Nothing else comes to mind during a quick check, good one, also good example songs
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05.10.2013 - 01:13
mz
Written by Erik M. on 04.10.2013 at 16:49


No offence, but I find your suggestions absolutely hilarious. Why? Because LeKiwi obviously isn't interested in doom metal vocalists, as is clear just by looking at the vocalists that he has chosen for this list. I know this is annoying since I said it many times, but the lack of vocalists like Patrick Walker or Aaron Stainthorpe (yes Marcel, I know he can be whiny but he's still a great vocalist ) is kind of baffling to me. I also know I said I'd help in finding the right songs, which I tried, but I think you (LeKiwi) are looking for songs that simply don't exist.


you might be right but I did recommend esoteric since I like ha bad and do not care if the list creator includes their vocalist list or now. It might make me sound like a arrogant person but since this list is meant to e on talented vocalists and not only is personal favorites, I thought would be necessary to mention G. Chandler. Also, I did not read comments on his list and I was was not aware of your argument about doom metal vocalist.
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05.10.2013 - 01:24
mz
Regarding the subjective VS objective thing, I thing any list which include words like "great, talented, heavy, favorites, crushing etc" are subjected. What you consider as talent might be an extremely ordinary ability in other's point of view. Only list like "all metal albums published in 2008", "all male guitarist","drummers who can play on 300 bpm" are objective (hell even "metal" could be a subjective word).
The other thing is that I do not think that the creator of list is an expert in singing field. No offence to his intentions but I think that he, like most of the others on this site including myself, is just an avid, yet casual metal listener and noting more. In the other words, he does not have any standard to measure the level of talent of vocalists ( I do not personally believe in such thing, but he seems so)
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05.10.2013 - 18:37
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by mz on 05.10.2013 at 01:24

Regarding the subjective VS objective thing, I thing any list which include words like "great, talented, heavy, favorites, crushing etc" are subjected. What you consider as talent might be an extremely ordinary ability in other's point of view. Only list like "all metal albums published in 2008", "all male guitarist","drummers who can play on 300 bpm" are objective (hell even "metal" could be a subjective word).
The other thing is that I do not think that the creator of list is an expert in singing field. No offence to his intentions but I think that he, like most of the others on this site including myself, is just an avid, yet casual metal listener and noting more. In the other words, he does not have any standard to measure the level of talent of vocalists ( I do not personally believe in such thing, but he seems so)

Although human error is likely to have influenced the selection of vocalists, the premise of this list is purely objective.

Talent, as I stated before, refers to a level of aptitude or skill which in high levels enables a person to excel at a particular activity (or activities) which proves arduous to imitate for those who lack such talent. It's as simple as that. This means, that although talent cannot be accurately measured as a value, it can be gauged relative to other levels of talent. Continuing to imitate several of these vocalists' styles, I can appreciate which ones are difficult to perform. I am not making a claim to supremacy, any vocalist who endeavors to excel can conclude the same.

Having made this list I have already acknowledged some faults in the process. Firstly, there are some excluded factors of which their inclusion would have made this a rather laborious effort. This includes the vocalist's ability to write aurally appealing vocal lines and likelihood that they aren't displaying the complete set of their abilities. Secondly, my genre of preference is progressive metal. While this limits the scope of my search for talented vocalists, this does not influence my judgement of talent, which is why I'm still open to suggestions. I have several vocalists here who belong to bands that I hardly know, don't enjoy, or even dislike.
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05.10.2013 - 18:57
mz
Written by LeKiwi on 05.10.2013 at 18:37

Written by mz on 05.10.2013 at 01:24

my comment

your explanation


But the fact that I consider wintersun's vocals both in extreme and clean parts very generic and annoying at some parts and not especial at all and you have put that guy in your list indicates that "talent" is an subjective term. IMO term like "talented guitarist" is much vaguer " technical guitarist" . Also, by your description, you indirectly suggest that the number of talented vocalists in progressive/avantgarde genre is more than all other genres together, which I do not agree at all. Finally, one can not have the same standard for judging vocal talent in progressive metal and let's say, doom or black metal.
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05.10.2013 - 19:03
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
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This includes the vocalist's ability to write aurally appealing vocal lines


if ever there was something subjective it's this.
What are aurally appealing vocals lines to one person can be total aural hell to another.
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05.10.2013 - 19:24
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 05.10.2013 at 19:03

if ever there was something subjective it's this.
What are aurally appealing vocals lines to one person can be total aural hell to another.

Exactly. That's why that factor is excluded from the selection criteria.
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05.10.2013 - 19:46
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by mz on 05.10.2013 at 18:57

But the fact that I consider wintersun's vocals both in extreme and clean parts very generic and annoying at some parts and not especial at all and you have put that guy in your list indicates that "talent" is an subjective term. IMO term like "talented guitarist" is much vaguer " technical guitarist" . Also, by your description, you indirectly suggest that the number of talented vocalists in progressive/avantgarde genre is more than all other genres together, which I do not agree at all. Finally, one can not have the same standard for judging vocal talent in progressive metal and let's say, doom or black metal.

Annoying has nothing to do with the criteria, must I repeat that so frequently? Sure, his screams aren't impressive, they are simply average. However, he has an insane range which alone is pretty talented, whether you enjoy it or not matters not. He has so many different tones between screams and cleans at his disposal that at times it seems as if two or more vocalists have performed on a particular track. I would specifically link parts of songs for the sake of argument, but I can't be bothered at the moment, just listen to the song I have linked for Jari above and save me the trouble.

Additionally, you are making misguided inferences. I just stated in my previous reply to you that this list is limited in scope. I will explain it simply. I enjoy progressive metal. Most of the music I listen to is progressive metal. When I look for music, I tend to look for progressive metal. I tend to avoid genres like doom and black. Due to this, I will never discover all the talented vocalists in metal. Hence, the existence of the suggestion "scheme."

I dislike playing this condescending game, if you would still like to discuss anything about this list, PM me and we can settle it over there.
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05.10.2013 - 20:28
mz
Written by LeKiwi on 05.10.2013 at 19:46

Annoying has nothing to do with the criteria, must I repeat that so frequently? Sure, his screams aren't impressive, they are simply average. However, he has an insane range which alone is pretty talented, whether you enjoy it or not matters not. He has so many different tones between screams and cleans at his disposal that at times it seems as if two or more vocalists have performed on a particular track. I would specifically link parts of songs for the sake of argument, but I can't be bothered at the moment, just listen to the song I have linked for Jari above and save me the trouble.

Additionally, you are making misguided inferences. I just stated in my previous reply to you that this list is limited in scope. I will explain it simply. I enjoy progressive metal. Most of the music I listen to is progressive metal. When I look for music, I tend to look for progressive metal. I tend to avoid genres like doom and black. Due to this, I will never discover all the talented vocalists in metal. Hence, the existence of the suggestion "scheme."

I dislike playing this condescending game, if you would still like to discuss anything about this list, PM me and we can settle it over there.

I am not going to bother with a PM discussion and do not leave any more comments here as well. Let's agree to disagree.
BTW, I am more than familiar with wintersun and do not need to check that song you've posted
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05.10.2013 - 21:00
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by mz on 05.10.2013 at 20:28

I am not going to bother with a PM discussion and do not leave any more comments here as well. Let's agree to disagree.
BTW, I am more than familiar with wintersun and do not need to check that song you've posted
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There is no disagreement, all I have stated has yet to be refuted and still stands.

I also forgot to address what you wrote before.

Written by mz on 05.10.2013 at 18:57

Finally, one can not have the same standard for judging vocal talent in progressive metal and let's say, doom or black metal.


I have already noted that some vocalists may opt to restrain their talent, perhaps to blend with the music. Progressive metal hardly suffers from such a repression, if it exists, owing to the erratic and eccentric style allows for greater expression.
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05.10.2013 - 21:06
mz
Written by LeKiwi on 05.10.2013 at 21:00


There is no disagreement, all I have stated has yet to be refuted and still stands.



you can think so, but no one else believes in what you've stated here
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05.10.2013 - 21:14
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by mz on 05.10.2013 at 21:06

you can think so, but no one else believes in what you've stated here

No one? Five people (those who have discussed with me on this page) do not constitute the entire MS population
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05.10.2013 - 22:16
mz
Written by LeKiwi on 05.10.2013 at 21:14

Written by mz on 05.10.2013 at 21:06

you can think so, but no one else believes in what you've stated here

No one? Five people (those who have discussed with me on this page) do not constitute the entire MS population

fair enough, but at least you can say that a great portion of users who contributed in this list and had suggestions for you are very disappointed by your lack of interest in understanding obvious facts
again, I hope that this would be my last comment on this list. I will try not to answer your (probable) reply to this post
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05.10.2013 - 22:28
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by mz on 05.10.2013 at 22:16

fair enough, but at least you can say that a great portion of users who contributed in this list and had suggestions for you are very disappointed by your lack of interest in understanding obvious facts

I wish you to clarify what you meant by obvious facts. I'm a realist, so truth and hence facts tend not to escape me given the chance I've added several suggestions already; perhaps you're not keeping track of such activity, which I don't blame you for. But now it's made apparent so no escaping it

Edit: Just to be clear, 25% of my list is made up of user suggestions; as time goes on, the proportion will clearly increase.
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06.10.2013 - 10:28
Kuroboshi
Hey, I agree with many of your choices. Especially Devin. Methinks Mikael Akerfeldt and Dan Swano should have a star though.

Some vocalists I think should be on the list as well.
Tobias Netzell: "For You To Know"
Mortuus: "Cold Mouth Prayer" (Marduk) (Probably my favorite vocalist, awesome live to. "Baptism by Fire!!!")
Dani Filth: "Her Ghost in the Fog" (A lot of hate for this guy I guess, but his vocal span is amazing. Trying to do his high pitches at the karaoke is vocal chord suicide.)
Andy Schmidt: "Back to Times of Splendor" (Disillusion)
Burton Bell: "Final Exit" (Fear Factory)

Personally, I love Johannes Persson's screams (for example "Back to Chapel Town") and Lord K's growls ("At the Entrance to Hell's Unholy Fire"), but they're not that versatile I guess.
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06.10.2013 - 12:46
!J.O.O.E.!
Defunct
Written by LeKiwi on 05.10.2013 at 21:00


There is no disagreement, all I have stated has yet to be refuted and still stands.


On the contrary, you've already made concessions regarding your choosing process, and that your mission of objectivity is marred by a subjective undertone (which it is, the result is subjective, no matter how much you try to refute it otherwise). The discordance between your title + opening line promising a "concise" list and the clearly one-sided area of music you have analysed does highlight this to a degree. You even said in a later comment that your list is "limited" in scope. If so how can this be a list of the greatest vocalists in metal, and how can this list then be considered "concise" if this is the premise of it? It's these inconsistencies which weaken your list, and is denigrated further by your showy attitude when challenged about legitimate complaints. Had this been a list of "My favourite vocalists in progressive metal" I doubt any issues would have arisen here.

As mz stated in some fashion, you can't claim an objective dominion when you aren't premising said inclusions with objective proof. You've included no description or analysis with any vocalists mentioned here so I'm afraid all that you have said IS instantly refutable simply by others' opinion because what you have stated here is not objective until proven so. That's the great thing about opinion: it requires no proof. That which is objective does though, and people get irritated by those that try to elevate their own opinions to "Objective" status with none of the required proving involved. It's arrogant and patently erroneous

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Talent, as I stated before, refers to a level of aptitude or skill which in high levels enables a person to excel at a particular activity (or activities) which proves arduous to imitate for those who lack such talent. It's as simple as that. This means, that although talent cannot be accurately measured as a value, it can be gauged relative to other levels of talent. Continuing to imitate several of these vocalists' styles, I can appreciate which ones are difficult to perform. I am not making a claim to supremacy, any vocalist who endeavors to excel can conclude the same.


I don't think you realise just how subjective this list is. From my perspective a shockingly large number of these vocalists are simply good at what they do, and nothing more. Your theory on talent is sound, but it doesn't match up to your evidence, i.e. the vocalists you have submitted as paradigms of this. A perfect example of this is including Johan Längqvist over Messiah. Johan is the better vocalist for sure, but more "talented" under your rubric of the term? Quite clearly not. Calling oneself an arbiter of objectivity and having such a basic range of vocalists to highlight it, to me, makes me think you need to go back to drawing board and have a closer look at a larger pool of metal vocalists and a more concise outlook at each of them, not a dense focus on progressive metal. Either that or change the premise of the list to suit what it actually is, and just be a bit more forthcoming with it. Naturally this is my own opinion, but so is this list yours
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06.10.2013 - 15:41
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 06.10.2013 at 12:46


You are correct in that I made concessions, as anyone who might attempt a list of this subject would do The premise is objective and thus, by definition, so is the end result. Realistically, this list will be an on-going process until metal ceases to exist as a genre which imposes the fact that it will never be complete. I don't believe I ever stated this was a concise list of the most talented vocalists in metal, read the description again It is a concise list of vocalists who I have had the opportunity to be exposed to and now admire for their talent, i.e. those vocalists who are unknown to me will not see their presence on this list until the circumstances change. Hence, the purpose of the suggestion scheme. Any such suggestion is accompanied by as thorough an investigation of their work as possible with the limited time I have to spare. Alternatively, the user who made the recommendation can find an apt track which suffices.

Any user who challenges the inclusion of any vocalist on this list will receive the precise reason for that decision. In the future I hope to have each vocalist's talents highlighted in a short description. That should sate the belligerent portion of this community, including yourself

I urge you to voice your gripes with this list, and I would be inclined to ease them, as much as I could for someone who seeks conflict. Better yet, wait until I provide the descriptions in due time, then do so. As I stated before, I don't have the time to go out and search for every talented vocalist in metal. I have named this list as I have because it is such an objective claim. People visit my list and either appreciate it or fervently insist that I'm missing essential vocalists. This is my means of discovering new vocalists who might qualify for this list; that and through my constant search for new music.

Also please state how Johan isn't talented. Barring the time I was introduced to Johan's vocals, I don't even listen to Candlemass. However, in that short session I was able to determine that he is indeed talented. He has an incredible range, very resonant lows, shrieking highs, and to top it off he applies vocal fry in a subtle manner which is no easy task.

Also, I advise you to discontinue the claims of subjectivity. Objectivity: not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts. Neither of those statements are applicable. When I receive a request, I take it seriously and objectively. As I have stated before, there are vocalists here I dislike the style of (i.e. do not listen to the music because the vocals are off-putting) yet they are still on this list. Please, explain again how subjective this list is. The fact that the list is incomplete does not constitute as an argument for such an assertion
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06.10.2013 - 15:46
Angel N.
Evil Butterfly
Written by LeKiwi on 06.10.2013 at 15:41

He has an incredible range, very resonant lows, shrieking highs, and to top it off he applies vocal fry in a subtle manner which is no easy task.


aha ! All of above applies to Sebastian too, I'm just saying
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06.10.2013 - 15:50
LeKiwi
High Fist Prog
Written by Kuroboshi on 06.10.2013 at 10:28

Hey, I agree with many of your choices. Especially Devin. Methinks Mikael Akerfeldt and Dan Swano should have a star though.

Some vocalists I think should be on the list as well.
Tobias Netzell: "For You To Know"
Mortuus: "Cold Mouth Prayer" (Marduk) (Probably my favorite vocalist, awesome live to. "Baptism by Fire!!!")
Dani Filth: "Her Ghost in the Fog" (A lot of hate for this guy I guess, but his vocal span is amazing. Trying to do his high pitches at the karaoke is vocal chord suicide.)
Andy Schmidt: "Back to Times of Splendor" (Disillusion)
Burton Bell: "Final Exit" (Fear Factory)

Personally, I love Johannes Persson's screams (for example "Back to Chapel Town") and Lord K's growls ("At the Entrance to Hell's Unholy Fire"), but they're not that versatile I guess.

Thinking back on Dan's performance on Witherscape, he certain should. Mikael is one of my favourite vocalists but the stars in this case are awarded for versatility, where he lacks imo. I'll listen to a few tracks on the way to the library today; maybe I'll revise my decision

I love In Mourning, as you well know. I thought about adding the song "The Black Lodge", particularly focusing on the part at 3:18. While I think it's a great performance, I think too many vocalists can do that.

Thanks for the recommendations, Disillusion is a great suggestion, hadn't thought about them. I'll let you know how it goes.
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