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Basically, this is a list of those albums which are dear to me, but are often considered as (one of) the weakest releases of a certain band (Ensiferum, Helloween, Therion etc.) or in the Allen/Lande case, of certain musicians.

Created by: Zmaj Ognjeni Vuk | 30.07.2010



1. Allen/Lande - The Battle
2005 (Some people were expecting a strong duel of the two singers, instead of getting a soft duet. Nevertheless, a very enjoyable and relaxing album.)
2. Elvenking - Two Tragedy Poets (...And A Caravan Of Weird Figures)
2008 (An acoustic album! Noooo. Well, actually Yesss! Elvenking proved to be alive and kicking (ass) with TTP, after the previous bad effort 'The Scythe'.)
3. Ensiferum - Victory Songs
2007 (Jari left, Petri sucks monkey ass! But, setting that 'argument' aside, Ensiferum is still Ensiferum and this album is still awesome (see how 'awesome' is an argument while 'sucks monkey ass' is not? ;) ))
4. Helloween - Rabbit Don't Come Easy
2003 (Some would say it's "Chameleon pt. 2, but this is the first Helloween album that I listened to, and one of those that got me into metal. Plus it's coming from a very tough period for the band. And it has some really good songs like 'Just A Little Sign', 'Don't Stop Being Crazy' and 'Listen To The Flies'.)
5. Hollenthon - Opus Magnum
2008 (Word 'sold out' spring to mind. Or at least trying to. Then again, who cares even if they did? We're not twelve anymore. The album sounds great (especially when this is the first Hollenthon album that you listened to) and that's all that matters.)
6. Iced Earth - The Glorious Burden
2004 (A change of vocalist (Barlow -> Owens), a change of style and some over the top USofA patriotism! That can't be good (especially the last part)! ;) This album sounds more Euro than US power metal, and therefore it may be more catchy/cheesy than previous IE albums. So, mind your anti-change sentiment, 'cause this one deserves more than a spin or two.)
7. Metallica - S&M
1999 (The worst this about this release may very well be the song selection. But let's not make this album in what it could have been and see it as what it is. And it's a grand effort and maybe Metallica's best work in the latest 19 or so years.)
8. Sonata Arctica - The Days Of Grays
2009 (TDoG and Unia, some would say 'Gay & Gayer', but the latent homosexuality and homophobia of the aforementioned crowd that derives from it are not a merit for this album. It diverges from Sonata's original style, and it's a more complex release. Grow over you prejudice - it may not be and insta-hit like 'Silence' or 'Ecliptica', but it grows strongly on you after a couple of more listening sessions.)
9. Within Temptation - The Silent Force
2004 (Gone commercial. Even made on MTV. Plague be upon them! TSF may mark a turning point in WT's carrier toward 13-year of wannabe-goth girl fans. Again, as we are not delusional 13-year olds, let's stick to the music itself - which is of grade A quality, with some unforgettable songs like 'It's The Fear', or 'Aquarius'.)
10. Therion - Gothic Kabbalah
2007 (Basic argument about this is that it's the weakest Therion album so far (or at least in the post-death metal era). On the other hand, Therion haven't made a bad album yet, have they? :) GK is just one of the stars in the constellation that is Therion, and while it may seem more distant to some, it doesn't mean it shines less brightly than the others.)



Disclaimer: All top lists are unofficial and do not represent the point of view of the MS Staff.
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Brekke K'ktus - 24.10.2012 at 21:34  
Alphabetical?
Ace Frawley - 24.10.2012 at 22:53  
Have you considered therapy? (just kidding)
Zmaj Ognjeni Vuk - 25.10.2012 at 01:25  
Written by Brekke K'ktus on 24.10.2012 at 21:34

Alphabetical?

Lol should have been, failed at the last one
Rhiannon - 28.02.2013 at 12:24  
Funny, I also like Within Temptation - The Silent Force, and Therion - Gothic Kabbalah. Don't know whats people's problem with them
And yeah, It's The Fear is such a good song
Ellrohir - 28.02.2013 at 12:37  
I like Elvenking, Ensiferum, Iced Earth and Therion and i dont know the rest so i cant tell
Introspekrieg - 28.02.2013 at 12:51  
Der Mitternachtslöwe is one of my favorite Therion songs, so I am glad that Gothic Kabbalah exists.
Marcel Hubregtse - 28.02.2013 at 14:29  
Quote:

Hollenthon - Opus Magnum
2008 (Word 'sold out' spring to mind. Or at least trying to.




This cxomment I really don't understand since the album isn't too far removed soundwise from their previous two. One could call ti safe, yes, but not trying to sell-out
Zmaj Ognjeni Vuk - 28.02.2013 at 15:07  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 28.02.2013 at 14:29

Quote:

Hollenthon - Opus Magnum
2008 (Word 'sold out' spring to mind. Or at least trying to.




This cxomment I really don't understand since the album isn't too far removed soundwise from their previous two. One could call ti safe, yes, but not trying to sell-out

Lol how did this list get so popular?

Tbh I don't recall exactly where did I pick up that sentiment from but as far as I remember there was a lot of (I'd say misconstructed) hate on Hollenthon after that album (maybe not on MS, I have a vague idea that it was on a local Balkan metal foum), and that's why I found it a fit for my list at the time.

Maybe your statement: "dare I say it? commercial album", explains better what I intended to say.
Marcel Hubregtse - 28.02.2013 at 15:14  
Written by Zmaj Ognjeni Vuk on 28.02.2013 at 15:07


Lol how did this list get so popular?

Tbh I don't recall exactly where did I pick up that sentiment from but as far as I remember there was a lot of (I'd say misconstructed) hate on Hollenthon after that album (maybe not on MS, I have a vague idea that it was on a local Balkan metal foum), and that's why I found it a fit for my list at the time.

Maybe your statement: "dare I say it? commercial album", explains better what I intended to say.


I just re-read my review for the first time in years due to your list
And I see I hinted at it more or less with that part you quoted
But still I wouldn't really call it selling out. And commercial it wasn't since it sold less than the one before
Ah well, I still enjoy Opus Magnum quite a lot but will always prefer the first two and then especially the second album

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