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Release date: 22 November 2011
Style: Technical thrash metal, Progressive thrash metal

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01. Cosmic Cortex
02. Echoless Chamber
03. Dying World
04. Tetrastructural Minds
05. Venus Project
06. Dark Creations, Dead Creators
07. Fast Paced Society
08. Outer Isolation

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Staff review by
Troy Killjoy

Rating:
7.5
Oh shit, the Killjoy is reviewing a thrash metal album. Brace yourselves.

ADD-friendly review: This is not the worst album of the revivalist thrash movement I've come across.

In spite of my pseudo-crusade against anything revivalist, I admittedly found Vektor's Outer Isolation to be a clear step above the rest. Now, I compared these guys to Toxik when I first listened to the over-hyped debut, Black Future. They immediately built success off that sound, a highly technical form of thrash metal that even drew some appreciation from the prog crowd. Yet, people kept telling me how much more they had in common with Voivod, so I took a break and caught up with those old school thrashers.

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published 03.12.2011 | Comments (188)

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Deadmeat - 18.02.2011 at 02:11  
Rating: 9 This is the most exciting awaiting for an album!!! (for the last 2 years!!!) to be honest i may be enormously disappointed with everything less than a masterpiece. i am expecting the best 2011 album (or at least one of the top3) from these wonderkids! it will be amazing to listen to Tetrastructural Minds and Fast Paced Society rerecorded!
RavenKing - 18.02.2011 at 02:51  
 
Written by Deadmeat on 18.02.2011 at 02:11

This is the most exciting awaiting for an album!!! (for the last 2 years!!!) to be honest i may be enormously disappointed with everything less than a masterpiece. i am expecting the best 2011 album (or at least one of the top3) from these wonderkids! it will be amazing to listen to Tetrastructural Minds and Fast Paced Society rerecorded!


While I would agree that the band makes good music (though I don't like it enough to buy an album, to tell the truth), I can't help but think you overrate it a bit.
Deadmeat - 18.02.2011 at 11:24  
Rating: 9
Written by RavenKing on 18.02.2011 at 02:51

Written by Deadmeat on 18.02.2011 at 02:11

This is the most exciting awaiting for an album!!! (for the last 2 years!!!) to be honest i may be enormously disappointed with everything less than a masterpiece. i am expecting the best 2011 album (or at least one of the top3) from these wonderkids! it will be amazing to listen to Tetrastructural Minds and Fast Paced Society rerecorded!


While I would agree that the band makes good music (though I don't like it enough to buy an album, to tell the truth), I can't help but think you overrate it a bit.

i may do! the point is that i enjoy it as much i say!
RavenKing - 18.02.2011 at 15:51  
 
Written by Deadmeat on 18.02.2011 at 11:24

the point is that i enjoy it as much i say!


I have no doubt about it. And that's what really matters.
Deadmeat - 05.04.2011 at 08:03  
Rating: 9 Delaeyd till october... fuck... but i am sure it'll kill!!!!!
Whoblehwah - 21.08.2011 at 07:59  
Rating: 10 Can't wait for this.
Moose - 22.09.2011 at 08:13  
Rating: 10 One of my most anticipated of the year. Can not wait!
Death To Posers - 22.09.2011 at 08:18  
Rating: 9 High hopes for this one as well, hope it doesn't disappoint
JÄY - 24.10.2011 at 05:06  
Rating: 8 Black Future changed my life....I'm reluctant to get too excited for this
S.K.Ø.M - 21.11.2011 at 10:04  
Rating: 10 Well done Vektor, it continues the legacy of Black Future ... My best Thrash album of the year for sure
Deadmeat - 21.11.2011 at 20:46  
Rating: 9 The rerecorded songs are AWESOME! really great!

(cant say anything for the new songs till i complete their listening)
Pazdzioch - 22.11.2011 at 00:49  
  Not as good as "Black Future", but still light years ahead of modern thrash metal.
Troy Killjoy - 22.11.2011 at 00:54  
  They always reminded me of a poor man's Toxik. Not sure what the big deal is about their sound.
Deadmeat - 22.11.2011 at 02:03  
Rating: 9
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.11.2011 at 00:54

Not sure what the big deal is about their sound.


it's just awesome (their sound)...

i think that it wont surpass (probably) black future but surely it is one of the best thrash albums of 2011.
JÄY - 22.11.2011 at 08:07  
Rating: 8
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.11.2011 at 00:54

They always reminded me of a poor man's Toxik. Not sure what the big deal is about their sound.

I feel for ya, bro....they rule
Troy Killjoy - 22.11.2011 at 08:08  
 
Written by JÄY on 22.11.2011 at 08:07
I feel for ya, bro....they rule

No need to feel for me. It's not like I can't just go listen to Toxik.
Marcel Hubregtse - 22.11.2011 at 13:26  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.11.2011 at 00:54

They always reminded me of a poor man's Toxik. Not sure what the big deal is about their sound.


They sound more like a poor man's early VoiVod to me but far less off the wall.
Moose - 22.11.2011 at 17:02  
Rating: 10 Hmm, Voivod and Toxik sound like poor man's Vektor to me
pisymbol - 22.11.2011 at 17:40  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.11.2011 at 00:54

They always reminded me of a poor man's Toxik. Not sure what the big deal is about their sound.


Sound, no big deal. Craftsmanship, entirely different story.
Troy Killjoy - 22.11.2011 at 21:08  
  Not sure what the big deal is about their craftsmanship...
Marcel Hubregtse - 22.11.2011 at 21:16  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.11.2011 at 21:08

Not sure what the big deal is about their craftsmanship...

some people just get off on pointless showcasing of technicalities
Troy Killjoy - 22.11.2011 at 21:17  
 
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 22.11.2011 at 21:16
some people just get off on pointless showcasing of technicalities

Agreed. (Coming from a fan of Origin.)
pisymbol - 22.11.2011 at 22:01  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.11.2011 at 21:17

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 22.11.2011 at 21:16
some people just get off on pointless showcasing of technicalities

Agreed. (Coming from a fan of Origin.)


C'mon, really? I mean...wait....really?

Origin is more or less the band I site for showcasing of technicalities and almost zero ability to craft a memorable tune (YMMV).

Craftsmanship and technical prowess are two different aspects of a band.

Vektor crafts a really great thrash tune with some progressive elements thrown in. Yeah, its not ground breaking. Yeah, its been done before. And yeah, its good stuff none the less.

The only point I was really making Troy was that it doesn't have to be revolutionary to still be high quality release. See Havok's Time Is Up for another example.
Troy Killjoy - 22.11.2011 at 22:04  
 
Written by pisymbol on 22.11.2011 at 22:01
See Havok's Time Is Up for another example.

Bad example if you ask me. Time Is Up is one of the most boring thrash releases I've ever heard.
pisymbol - 22.11.2011 at 23:02  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.11.2011 at 22:04

Written by pisymbol on 22.11.2011 at 22:01
See Havok's Time Is Up for another example.

Bad example if you ask me. Time Is Up is one of the most boring thrash releases I've ever heard.


And one of my favorite thrash releases of the year. To each his/her own. At least Troy, you are consistent.
Troy Killjoy - 22.11.2011 at 23:11  
 
Written by pisymbol on 22.11.2011 at 23:02
At least Troy, you are consistent.

Thanks!
Dangerboner - 23.11.2011 at 01:09  
Rating: 9
tea[m]ster - 23.11.2011 at 01:41  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.11.2011 at 00:54

They always reminded me of a poor man's Toxik. Not sure what the big deal is about their sound.


Nope. Wrong.

Isn't it obvious early beginning, Voivod, pre-Dimension Hatross is their biggest influence?
Troy Killjoy - 23.11.2011 at 02:13  
 
Written by tea[m]ster on 23.11.2011 at 01:41
Isn't it obvious early beginning, Voivod, pre-Dimension Hatross is their biggest influence?

I never cared for Voivod, so their sound is unfamiliar to me. All I remember is that they aren't a band I enjoy.
Moose - 23.11.2011 at 02:39  
Rating: 10 Troy I think it's pretty clear from your comments that you simply do not like Thrash metal. You don't like Vektor or Havok? Two of the thrash releases of the year.
I'm not sure why you're even bothering to comment here in that case
Whoblehwah - 23.11.2011 at 08:05  
Rating: 10 Easily the top thrash album of 2011 for me. Vektor is fucking awesome.
Mikyz - 23.11.2011 at 13:54  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.11.2011 at 02:13

Written by tea[m]ster on 23.11.2011 at 01:41
Isn't it obvious early beginning, Voivod, pre-Dimension Hatross is their biggest influence?

I never cared for Voivod, so their sound is unfamiliar to me. All I remember is that they aren't a band I enjoy.


It doesn't look like you enjoy thrash much, I don't blame I don't either but the few bands that I do enjoy share a similar sound with Vektor, and that includes the "futuristic" aspects of Voivod, their logos look alike as well. You might not enjoy it but it nevertheless is the best thrash album this year, it's the only one I listened to actually so I might not be an authority on thrash
The Voyager - 23.11.2011 at 18:14  
Rating: 8
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.11.2011 at 00:54

They always reminded me of a poor man's Toxik. Not sure what the big deal is about their sound.

It's a new thrash band, Troy. For some reason, people go crazy over these bands, even though they're just carbon copies of the bands that came before them. I don't understand it either.
SamuelSanchezAlvarez - 23.11.2011 at 18:35  
Rating: 10
Written by The Voyager on 23.11.2011 at 18:14

Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.11.2011 at 00:54

They always reminded me of a poor man's Toxik. Not sure what the big deal is about their sound.

It's a new thrash band, Troy. For some reason, people go crazy over these bands, even though they're just carbon copies of the bands that came before them. I don't understand it either.


You haven't heard this album yet, right? I listen a lot of 80s old school thrash bands and this album is a masterpiece imo.
Troy Killjoy - 23.11.2011 at 20:30  
 
Written by Mikyz on 23.11.2011 at 13:54
It doesn't look like you enjoy thrash much

:s I love thrash - it's one of my favorite genres and one of the first forms of relatively extreme music that got me into metal.

Before the year 2000 anyway. A few bands still released some good material (like Kreator and Sodom) but these revivalist bands just don't do it for me. And while I haven't heard this particular album, I definitely didn't like their debut. I know people say they sound like Voivod, and that's probably true, but since I don't remember much about Voivod because I was too bored with them I find it easier to compare Vektor with Toxik. And Toxik destroys them.
pisymbol - 23.11.2011 at 20:34  
 
Written by The Voyager on 23.11.2011 at 18:14

Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.11.2011 at 00:54

They always reminded me of a poor man's Toxik. Not sure what the big deal is about their sound.

It's a new thrash band, Troy. For some reason, people go crazy over these bands, even though they're just carbon copies of the bands that came before them. I don't understand it either.


Well, I'd like to defend bands like Havok and Vektor a bit with the following:

Though I 100% agree with your sentiments regarding originality, I believe there is something to be said about execution. Both Havok and Vektor IMO are masters of creating a great thrash metal record, i.e. their music to me exemplifies what high quality thrash should sound like. This is what I was talking about with Troy earlier: One can admire great craftsmanship even if the end product is not original or groundbreaking.

If you love thrash, I don't know HOW you can not like this year's releases from Vektor, Havok, Revocation, and Warbringer.
Garth Vader - 24.11.2011 at 06:33  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.11.2011 at 22:04

Written by pisymbol on 22.11.2011 at 22:01
See Havok's Time Is Up for another example.

Bad example if you ask me. Time Is Up is one of the most boring thrash releases I've ever heard.

If we asked you, we would never hear anything good though...
Garth Vader - 24.11.2011 at 06:39  
 
Written by Garth Vader on 24.11.2011 at 06:33

Written by Troy Killjoy on 22.11.2011 at 22:04

Written by pisymbol on 22.11.2011 at 22:01
See Havok's Time Is Up for another example.

Bad example if you ask me. Time Is Up is one of the most boring thrash releases I've ever heard.

If we asked you, we would never hear anything good though...

as far as thrash goes, I mean. I agree with some of your tastes in other genres. So, Troy.... name a thrash band that is in your opinion, a good band that isn't boring.
Troy Killjoy - 24.11.2011 at 07:53  
 
Written by Garth Vader on 24.11.2011 at 06:39
as far as thrash goes, I mean. I agree with some of your tastes in other genres. So, Troy.... name a thrash band that is in your opinion, a good band that isn't boring.

From the '80s: Slayer, Sodom, Coroner (and '90s), Toxik, Artillery, Dark Angel... Overkill, Testament, and Kreator are good across a few decades with minor slip-ups along the way.
Mikyz - 24.11.2011 at 09:04  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 24.11.2011 at 07:53

From the '80s: Slayer, Sodom, Coroner (and '90s), Toxik, Artillery, Dark Angel... Overkill, Testament, and Kreator are good across a few decades with minor slip-ups along the way.


These are the exact bands that are appealing to me in the thrash genre, thrown in Sepultura, Sadus and Voivod. I can understand why Vektor might not be what you're looking for in thrash but it is by no means "bad" just rehashed in a good way.
Troy Killjoy - 24.11.2011 at 09:08  
 
Written by Mikyz on 24.11.2011 at 09:04
I can understand why Vektor might not be what you're looking for in thrash but it is by no means "bad" just rehashed in a good way.

I don't think of a lot of modern thrash bands as "bad", I just think of them as "not good". I know people tend to think there isn't a difference but there is for me. Basically, if you break it down with the MS ratings, 7 = good, and that's too high for me to give something like this. 6 is average...and this isn't exactly an average record. It's a lot more black and white than what average implies. 5 is not good. And that's where this sits for me, as with just about every thrash metal release (from modern bands) I hear these days.
Mikyz - 24.11.2011 at 09:20  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 24.11.2011 at 09:08

I don't think of a lot of modern thrash bands as "bad", I just think of them as "not good". I know people tend to think there isn't a difference but there is for me. Basically, if you break it down with the MS ratings, 7 = good, and that's too high for me to give something like this. 6 is average...and this isn't exactly an average record. It's a lot more black and white than what average implies. 5 is not good. And that's where this sits for me, as with just about every thrash metal release (from modern bands) I hear these days.


I'm not going to argue with your logic since it makes a lot of sense, and after all if you don't like it then I can't do anything about it anyway. I more than agree that it doesn't hold a candle to the early thrash bands but when you compare it to its contemporaries it's clearly the better output. What I don't agree in your statement is that every modern band is not good, if all of them are not good I'm pretty sure some of them are better than others, and Vektor is in fact better. But if you choose to treat albums you don't like in the same way... without giving credit where it's due, even if it's just a little bit than I can't really do anything about it, can I?
Troy Killjoy - 24.11.2011 at 09:25  
 
Written by Mikyz on 24.11.2011 at 09:20
What I don't agree in your statement is that every modern band is not good, if all of them are not good I'm pretty sure some of them are better than others, and Vektor is in fact better. But if you choose to treat albums you don't like in the same way... without giving credit where it's due, even if it's just a little bit than I can't really do anything about it, can I?

I've just failed to come across a new thrash band I like, that's all. I'm not going in with the predisposition to dislike the music and I do clearly understand the differences between some of the material they present. For instance, Warbringer's more aggressive thrash style, Evil's Metallica cloning, Vektor's speedy technical thrash - all of which have failed to impress me. I don't think it's a matter of giving credit where it's due, I think it's more being subjective and knowing what I like and what I don't.
Mikyz - 24.11.2011 at 09:32  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 24.11.2011 at 09:25

I've just failed to come across a new thrash band I like, that's all. I'm not going in with the predisposition to dislike the music and I do clearly understand the differences between some of the material they present. For instance, Warbringer's more aggressive thrash style, Evil's Metallica cloning, Vektor's speedy technical thrash - all of which have failed to impress me. I don't think it's a matter of giving credit where it's due, I think it's more being subjective and knowing what I like and what I don't.


I guess your right. Still there are few instances in which the musicianship is impressive even if the album in itself is boring, Origin for instance which I don't enjoy in the least or even Necrophagist, but I do give them some credit, that's really all I meant by that comment. But in the end everything is subjective, but for me there is a difference between "I don't like it" and "It's not good", one is subjective the other objective. I don't think they're mutually inclusive.
strade - 24.11.2011 at 10:16  
  I can see poor man's Voivod, but Toxik? Vektor sounds absolutely nothing like Toxik to my ears at least. I do agree with your sentiment that pretty much every new thrash album fails to live up to thre classics due to zero originality (besides Hellwitch's Omnipotent Convocation, which I still believe to be a masterpiece). However, I almost can't believe a classic thrash fan couldn't like Voivod. Their sound isn't the same for any more than two albums at a time so they might be worth giving another shot. Personally, I prefer their more stripped down, less noisy releases like Nothingface, Angel Rat and The Outer Limits. But yeah, thrash is pretty much a ghost of its former self.
Troy Killjoy - 24.11.2011 at 10:23  
  I don't know why I'm reminded of Toxik - it's just immediately where my mind goes when I listen to Vektor (although I still haven't bothered to check this particular album out). As for Voivod...I dunno, people tell me I should like Sadus and Sepultura too, but I don't.
strade - 24.11.2011 at 10:37  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 24.11.2011 at 10:23

I don't know why I'm reminded of Toxik - it's just immediately where my mind goes when I listen to Vektor (although I still haven't bothered to check this particular album out). As for Voivod...I dunno, people tell me I should like Sadus and Sepultura too, but I don't.


Whatever works. I definitely love Toxik way more than this band, so no arguments there. In fact, I just listened to World Circus earlier today. That album's a grower, though I still vastly prefer Think This.

Yeah, I never liked Sepultura's early albums (or any of their work) at all, really. It's just dull, personality-free riffing and speed with some of the worst vocals I've ever heard, even for thrash. As for Sadus... I'll get around to checking them out eventually.
qlacs - 24.11.2011 at 11:26  
Rating: 9 First time I hear Vektor, but it's really awesome. It reminds me of a blend of Kreator and Voivod. Total love.
Angelic Storm - 24.11.2011 at 13:21  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 24.11.2011 at 09:25
I've just failed to come across a new thrash band I like, that's all. I'm not going in with the predisposition to dislike the music and I do clearly understand the differences between some of the material they present. For instance, Warbringer's more aggressive thrash style, Evil's Metallica cloning, Vektor's speedy technical thrash - all of which have failed to impress me. I don't think it's a matter of giving credit where it's due, I think it's more being subjective and knowing what I like and what I don't.


I actually, feel exactly the same way, as I've stated on these boards a few times now. I've never seen the big deal with these "revivalist" thrash bands, as all the ones I've heard have totally failed to impress me. I haven't heard Vektor, so I can't comment on them, but bands like Warbringer, Evile, Bonded By Blood etc just haven't done anything that has excited me. In fact, I find newer albums by the thrash veterans like Sodom, Overkill, Testament and Exodus to be far superior to anything these newer thrash bands are releasing. I've yet to hear anything from a modern thrash band that can touch latter day thrash classics like "Tempo Of The Damned" or "In War, In Pieces"...
pisymbol - 24.11.2011 at 17:01  
 
Written by Troy Killjoy on 24.11.2011 at 09:08

Written by Mikyz on 24.11.2011 at 09:04
I can understand why Vektor might not be what you're looking for in thrash but it is by no means "bad" just rehashed in a good way.

I don't think of a lot of modern thrash bands as "bad", I just think of them as "not good". I know people tend to think there isn't a difference but there is for me. Basically, if you break it down with the MS ratings, 7 = good, and that's too high for me to give something like this. 6 is average...and this isn't exactly an average record. It's a lot more black and white than what average implies. 5 is not good. And that's where this sits for me, as with just about every thrash metal release (from modern bands) I hear these days.


One poster's 5 is another poster's 8. Its the way of the Storm.

You either get it or you don't. You don't, no big deal. I read your other reviews of various albums and honestly, other than your definition of good thrash, I like a lot of what you seem to gravitate toward. As I said, you are at least consistent in your thrash (again, meant as a compliment).

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