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Release date: 23 August 2010
Style: Avantgarde metal

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8.6 | 9 votes

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Additional info
- First pressing: 500 copies.
- First release by Adversum Records.

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mz - 27.09.2013 at 11:00  
Rating: 8 Thanks to Array for this great recommendation. I'm especially impressed that this band is handled by one guy
LeKiwi - 25.08.2014 at 22:37  
Rating: 6 Much of this album is senseless avant-garde wank, saved by scattered moments of structure.
mz - 25.08.2014 at 22:52  
Rating: 8
Written by LeKiwi on 25.08.2014 at 22:37

Much of this album is senseless avant-garde wank, saved by scattered moments of structure.

So you are criticizing an avant-garde album for being avant-garde?
Troy Killjoy - 25.08.2014 at 22:59  
 
Written by mz on 25.08.2014 at 22:52
So you are criticizing an avant-garde album for being avant-garde?

Kind of like criticizing drone for being repetitive.
!J.O.O.E.! - 25.08.2014 at 23:13  
  As wank goes I prefer avant-garde wank to prog wank so I might allow this music access to my ears.
mz - 25.08.2014 at 23:20  
Rating: 8
Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.08.2014 at 22:59


Kind of like criticizing drone for being repetitive.

True that
LeKiwi - 26.08.2014 at 02:53  
Rating: 6
Written by mz on 25.08.2014 at 22:52

So you are criticizing an avant-garde album for being avant-garde?

Not quite. I love avant-garde just as much as I love prog. This, however, lacks flow and riff structure. In other words: avant-garde for the sake of being avant-garde.
Lit. - 26.08.2014 at 02:54  
 
Written by LeKiwi on 26.08.2014 at 02:53

In other words: avant-garde for the sake of being avant-garde.

Isn't that the idea of avant-garde?
LeKiwi - 26.08.2014 at 02:57  
Rating: 6
Written by Lit. on 26.08.2014 at 02:54

Isn't that the idea of avant-garde?

I'd prefer it to sound natural, this sounds forced.
!J.O.O.E.! - 26.08.2014 at 10:19  
  Natural sounding avant-garde? That sounds almost like an oxymoron to me.
mz - 26.08.2014 at 10:35  
Rating: 8
Written by LeKiwi on 26.08.2014 at 02:57


I'd prefer it to sound natural, this sounds forced.

Nah I've seen people complaining about this band for being to much similar to Virus, hence sounding too "ordinary" or "natural" . I personally love it and think that it has great flow.
LeKiwi - 26.08.2014 at 12:43  
Rating: 6
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 26.08.2014 at 10:19

Natural sounding avant-garde? That sounds almost like an oxymoron to me.

There's plenty of avant-garde music which sounds natural. By natural, I mean flow and structure. Avant-garde doesn't have to be a mess you know
!J.O.O.E.! - 26.08.2014 at 12:50  
  If it has a natural flow and structure it probably isn't avant-garde
LeKiwi - 26.08.2014 at 12:58  
Rating: 6
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 26.08.2014 at 12:50

If it has a natural flow and structure it probably isn't avant-garde

Conventional and natural aren't synonymous.
!J.O.O.E.! - 26.08.2014 at 13:04  
  I never said it was. Not sure where you pulled "conventional" out of the air from.
LeKiwi - 26.08.2014 at 13:07  
Rating: 6
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 26.08.2014 at 13:04

I never said it was. Not sure where you pulled "conventional" out of the air from.

Because conventional and avant-garde are essentially antonyms whereas natural has nothing to do with either. Here are a bunch of avant-garde bands with natural flow and structure: Omb, Dissona, Leprous, Estradasphere, Ihsahn, Back To R'lyeh, Torrential Downpour...
!J.O.O.E.! - 26.08.2014 at 13:15  
  That's great, but I never mentioned anything about conventionality, as I said.
LeKiwi - 26.08.2014 at 13:17  
Rating: 6
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 26.08.2014 at 13:15

That's great, but I never mentioned anything about conventionality, as I said.

The only way you could assume that what I said was an oxymoron was if you assumed natural and conventional were related. I can't think of any other terms which would fit your assumption...
!J.O.O.E.! - 26.08.2014 at 13:22  
  Maybe you should stop making assumptions then. Anyway, a debate on semantics is clearly off topic here so I'll end this debate here.

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