06:35 - Apothecary We'll just have to agree to disagree then, as much as I love both bands, I still consider Zeppelin and Deep Purple hard rock at the very most
06:34 - flightoficarus Big sale at Willowtip. Best band there besides Ulcerate and Gigan?
06:33 - Apothecary Doom/stoner/sludge has its roots in Sabbath, and power and speed/thrash in Priest. I'd say everything else was just bands taking those categories and then building upon them to create new ones
06:30 - deadone That doesn't preclude Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin being pioneers in heavy metal and as such considered part of the genre, even though they happily sit outside it sometimes.
06:28 - Apothecary You're probably right for NWOBHM, but I would say that was because they were mostly influenced by Priest, not Sabbath. I think those bands very much started two divergent roads in metal, but both were the unofficial "pioneers"
05:24 - deadone That's historical revisionism. Bare in mind most NWOBHM metal bands didn't do " dark, heavy." Most speed/thrash wasn't that heavy either. Indeed Sabbathian heaviness was kept alive by doom metal.
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