16:48 - Cynic Metalhead I have a theory that Metatron is actually Prince Marcel.
16:23 - Apothecary Mories and Meilenwald performing live has made me realize there's a lot more obscure shit that's suited for the stage than I previously thought. Guys just gotta be willing to do it
16:22 - Apothecary Don't kill my dreams, goddamn you
16:19 - Lokaeda More like Prince Harry if you ask me.
16:17 - !J.O.O.E.! It'd be even funnier if he was Prince Philip.
16:13 - ScreamingSteelUS I have a theory that Metatron is actually Prince Charles.
16:01 - !J.O.O.E.! Seeing as Metatron won't even show his face publically I very much doubt that's ever going to happen.
01. The Leper Affinity 02. Bleak 03. Harvest 04. The Drapery Falls 05. Dirge For November 06. The Funeral Portrait 07. Patterns In The Ivy 08. Blackwater Park 09. The Leper Affinity [live][Legacy Edition bonus]
[Limited Edition bonus CD] 01. Still Day Beneath The Sun 02. Patterns In The Ivy II
[Legacy Edition bonus DVD] + 5.0 Audio Mix Of The Original Album + The Making Of Blackwater Park
Additional info Line-up on the album:
Mikael Åkerfeldt - Voice, guitars
Peter Lindgren - Guitars
Martin Lopez - Drums
Martin Mendez - Bass guitar
Additional musicians:
Steven Wilson - Voice (on "Bleak"), guitar, piano (courtesy of Snapper Music)
Markus Lindberg - 3 eggs (courtesy of Madrigal)
"Blackwater Park" was painfully conceived at Fredman Studios during the months of August to October 2000
Produced by Opeth and Steven Wilson
Engineered by Opeth, Steven Wilson and Fredrik Norström
Mixed by Steven Wilson and Fredrik Norström with the presence of Opeth
Mastered at the Mastering Room by Göran Finnberg
Looks captured by Harry Välimäki
Cover and booklet designed by Travis Smith and Opeth
"The Leper Affinity (Live)" recorded by Brent Carpenter & Pontus Norgren
Live sound mix by Pontus Norgren
The 5.0 mix on the DVD by Jens Borgen for Northern Music Company
The documentary, "The Making Of Blackwater Park", recorded, directed and edited by Fredrik Odefjard
Passion. That's what Blackwater Park is all about. Pure, unadulterated passion. Forget that Opeth display musical ability and know-how that is rivaled by few. Forget that the ending to The Leper Affinity goes from what can only be described as one of the greatest jam sessions ever, to a beautiful, yet melancholic pianistic epilogue. Forget that Harvest is one of the greatest acoustic songs ever written. Forget that Blackwater Park contains the perfect metal riff. Forget that Mikael Akerfeld quite possibly has the best voice in all of music. Forget that every moment of this album will make you stand in awe of what you're hearing. Why should you forget all that? Because none of it matters.
There are few bands that dare to continuously expand their musical sphere with each release, expecting their fans to accept the changes - even fewer succeed. Mikael Åkerfeldt, song writer and front man of Opeth, has pushed Opeth to do so since the band's inception and perhaps it's this constant change, not giving the audience a chance to adjust to one particular niche, which keeps them from ending up like so many metal bands before them: repetitive and uninspired. 2001 was the year Opeth opened the floodgates of creativity and released what many believe to be their magnum opus, an album so hyped you might doubt its brilliance. I'm here to tell you not to doubt. This is Blackwater Park.
Bands like Dismember (Massive Killing Capacity, Death Metal), Edge of Sanity, early At The Gates and Carcass actually did include DM in their melodic DM.
I'd say they included melody in their death metal, rather than death metal in their melodeath Quite a lot of death metal bands include a lot of melody without really being melodic death metal. Sounds weird writing it out like that but I'd still call them two separate things.
Put it this way, the term/adjective "melodic" itself is confusing enough, it's very redundant actually.
May be in the early 90's, someone wanted to use it to seperate Gothenburg/ Melodeath and Pure Death Metal as two different identities.
So whichever Death Metal band heavily used keyboards as part of the musical composition is categorized as Melodeath.
Still redundant !
Put it this way, the term/adjective "melodic" itself is confusing enough, it's very redundant actually.
May be in the early 90's, someone wanted to use it to seperate Gothenburg/ Melodeath and Pure Death Metal as two different identities.
So whichever Death Metal band heavily used keyboards as part of the musical composition is categorized as Melodeath.
Still redundant !
What the hell does it have to do with keyboards they have no bearing on whether or not something is melodeath, especially as many of the original Gothenburg albums were totally devoid of keyboards.
What's redundant in the term "melodic death metal" is the "death metal" bit, because melodeath tend not to have much, or any, death metal in (as opposed to actual death metal bands that use a bit of melody here and then, who aren't referred to as melodeath, hence the difference).
What the hell does it have to do with keyboards they have no bearing on whether or not something is melodeath, especially as many of the original Gothenburg albums were totally devoid of keyboards.
What's redundant in the term "melodic death metal" is the "death metal" bit, because melodeath tend not to have much, or any, death metal in (as opposed to actual death metal bands that use a bit of melody here and then, who aren't referred to as melodeath, hence the difference).
The more you talk the more you will expose your weakness in music !
1) What the hell does it have to do with keyboards they have no bearing on whether or not something is melodeath...
- I guess you don't know any hell about music ! Most of the time you can only choose either Keyboards or E. Guitars to act as the main role because both musical instrument have very estranged keys. Normally Keyboards is more melodic than E. Guitars.
2)...especially as many of the original Gothenburg albums were totally devoid of keyboards.
- May I have some examples from you ?
3) What's redundant in the term "melodic death metal" is the "death metal" bit, because melodeath tend not to have much, or any, death metal in (as opposed to actual death metal bands that use a bit of melody here and then, who aren't referred to as melodeath, hence the difference).
- Crap ! Don't know what are you talking about.
The more you talk the more you will expose your weakness in music !
I guess you don't know any hell about music ! Most of the time you can only choose either Keyboards or E. Guitars to act as the main role because both musical instrument have very estranged keys. Normally Keyboards is more melodic than E. Guitars.
What are you blathering about now? I've never said that keyboards are more or less melodic than guitars (not that that is true in every case either). Read what I actually said: melodic death metal is not incumbent on having keyboards. By your definition Nocturnus' 'The Key' album is a melodeath album because it has keyboards.
Quote: - May I have some examples from you ?
Sure
In fact Soilwork were pretty much the only one of the original big Gothenburg bands to keyboards around this time, and even then not in any significant way.
Quote: Crap ! Don't know what are you talking about.
Doesn't surprise me. I'm not even sure you know what you're talking about half the time.
What are you blathering about now? I've never said that keyboards are more or less melodic than guitars (not that that is true is every case either). Read what I actually said: melodic death metal is not incumbent on having keyboards. By your definition Nocturnus' 'The Key' album is a melodeath album because it has keyboards.
Thanks for your prompt reply.
And also thanks for helping me to rectify your own mistakes.
- As for the albums mentioned, Dark Tranquillity (Osmose), In Flames (Nuclear Blast), At The Gate (Earache) and Arch Enemy (Regan), all are considered Death Metal ! There was NO Gothenburg in that era. Their direction changed to more Keyboards- orientated Gothenburg afterwards.
- Without you their music labels didn't even know they have signed a Gothenburg band before !
And also thanks for helping me to rectify your own mistakes.
- As for the albums mentioned, Dark Tranquillity (Osmose), In Flames (Nuclear Blast), At The Gate (Earache) and Arch Enemy (Regan), all are considered Death Metal ! There was NO Gothenburg in that era. Their direction changed to more Keyboards- orientated Gothenburg afterwards.
Not even going to give a response to this comment. Just going to quote it so people can see it and have a good laugh.
!J.O.O.E.! : By your definition Nocturnus' 'The Key' album is a melodeath album because it has keyboards ?
- Not really, Keyboards are used to create the space-atmosphere in Nocturnus's album, nothing to do with melody...please bear in mind Keyboards are not piano but synthesiszers, most of the time it was used for the sake of creating certain kinds of moods that can not be done by other musical instruments
By your definition Nocturnus' 'The Key' album is a melodeath album because it has keyboards ?
- Not really, Keyboards are used to create the space-atmosphere in Nocturnus's album, nothing to do with melody...please bear in mind Keyboards are not piano but synthesiszers, most of the time it was used for the sake of creating certain kinds of moods that can not be done by other musical instruments
didnt you just disvalidate your own statement by this.response?
Constantine - 28.03.2014 at 15:26
I can't get this album.. I hate some song parts to the point when the songs get to that part I just change song (talking about 2nd half of blackwater park)
A great opeth record but not the best.. and certainly not deserving top spot of metalstorm..
What are you blathering about now? I've never said that keyboards are more or less melodic than guitars (not that that is true is every case either). Read what I actually said: melodic death metal is not incumbent on having keyboards. By your definition Nocturnus' 'The Key' album is a melodeath album because it has keyboards.
Thanks for your prompt reply.
And also thanks for helping me to rectify your own mistakes.
- As for the albums mentioned, Dark Tranquillity (Osmose), In Flames (Nuclear Blast), At The Gate (Earache) and Arch Enemy (Regan), all are considered Death Metal ! There was NO Gothenburg in that era. Their direction changed to more Keyboards- orientated Gothenburg afterwards.
- Without you their music labels didn't even know they have signed a Gothenburg band before !
Sorry but you're totally clueless.
Gothenburg is a major city in Sweden where the genre started. At The Gates and In Flames are both from that city. Dark Tranquillity and Arch Enemy are also from the vicinity.
In fact Soilwork were pretty much the only one of the original big Gothenburg bands to keyboards around this time, and even then not in any significant way.
Soilwork were certainly not one of the original big Gothenburg bands. They were one of the second wave along with The Haunted, Dminesion Zero, Carnal Forge, Ebony Tears etc
By the time Steelbath Suicide came out, At The Gates had long broken up, In Flames was up to Whoracle, Arch Enemy up to Stigmata, Dark Tranquillity were getting ready to release Projector etc.
Soilwork were certainly not one of the original big Gothenburg bands. They were one of the second wave along with The Haunted, Dminesion Zero, Carnal Forge, Ebony Tears etc
By the time Steelbath Suicide came out, At The Gates had long broken up, In Flames was up to Whoracle, Arch Enemy up to Stigmata, Dark Tranquillity were getting ready to release Projector etc.
Hmm that's true, I could have sworn they were a bit earlier than they actually were. In that case then keyboards really weren't integral to the (original at least) Gothenburg sound.
Hmm that's true, I could have sworn they were a bit earlier than they actually were. In that case then keyboards really weren't integral to the (original at least) Gothenburg sound.
It's one of the reasons I've never understood modern MDM's obsession with keyboards.
When I was getting into melodic DM around 97-98, keyboards really weren't there other than occassional intros. CoB were around but were almost regarded as a gimmick.
Damn, This album is a great grower, took me atleast 5 listens to make the production sit with me and then really starting to enjoy the album now. The only thing that was obvious from the beginning is that the title track is a absolute masterpiece.
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Quite a lot of death metal bands include a lot of melody without really being melodic death metal. Sounds weird writing it out like that but I'd still call them two separate things.
they have no bearing on whether or not something is melodeath, especially as many of the original Gothenburg albums were totally devoid of keyboards.
