IMO Use Your Illusion II is better than I. It's great!

Better than appetite too.

Just got though listening to both of the Use Your Illusions. I have to say these two are so rediculously underrated its amazing. I guess between having a strong debut, subpar singles from these albums and the band imploding I suppose its just a bad formula for these albums. Despite wat I was expecting, I really liked 2 better. 1 is almost as good, but the best songs just feel like fast songs veering out of control, while this album seems to have an increased attention in song writing. Maybe its just the pianos, I don't know.

Knocking on heavens door and civil war, how many times i've listened to these song great album

Written by Paradox0 on 26.10.2010 at 01:35

Just got though listening to both of the Use Your Illusions. I have to say these two are so rediculously underrated its amazing. I guess between having a strong debut, subpar singles from these albums and the band imploding I suppose its just a bad formula for these albums. Despite wat I was expecting, I really liked 2 better. 1 is almost as good, but the best songs just feel like fast songs veering out of control, while this album seems to have an increased attention in song writing. Maybe its just the pianos, I don't know.

The Illusion albums are anything but underrated; back in 1992/1993, GNR were huge even in my small hometown, they were on heavy rotation on radio and TV, to the point that I could not listen to the albums anymore, they were ridiculously popular.

Written by Guest on 11.11.2010 at 14:32

Written by Paradox0 on 26.10.2010 at 01:35

Just got though listening to both of the Use Your Illusions. I have to say these two are so rediculously underrated its amazing. I guess between having a strong debut, subpar singles from these albums and the band imploding I suppose its just a bad formula for these albums. Despite wat I was expecting, I really liked 2 better. 1 is almost as good, but the best songs just feel like fast songs veering out of control, while this album seems to have an increased attention in song writing. Maybe its just the pianos, I don't know.

The Illusion albums are anything but underrated; back in 1992/1993, GNR were huge even in my small hometown, they were on heavy rotation on radio and TV, to the point that I could not listen to the albums anymore, they were ridiculously popular.

Don't get me wrong I know how these two made history by being the only time a band released two separate albums, and both debut at #1 and 2. I just feel that these albums have been sadly forgotten as opposed to Apettite (although Knockin', November's Rain, and Live and Let Die are played I just feel these arn't even some of the best moments of the albums)

Good album even if I prefer the part one by far.

Although I've always preffered the first Illusion album over this one, this is still a fine album that for the most part, contains amazing songs.

"My World" is totally ridiculous and out of place, and should never have been on the album. "Get In The Ring" is marred because of that stupid rant by Axl midway through the song, but musically, it is awesome. I'd love to hear this song without that rant in it. It'd be so much better. There's not much to fault with the rest of the album though with classics like "Estranged", "Civil War" and "You Could Be Mine" on offer! The songs sung by Izzy and Duff ("14 Years" and "So Fine") are very underrated and awesome songs. "Pretty Tied Up" is another great song, notable for containing a riff that's far more metal than hard rock, and also it's awesome sitar intro played by Izzy!

Not quite as awesome as Illusion 1, but it's still a great album nonetheless.

Overall, I is better than II. Many fine moments here as well, but the bad tracks here are the worst of GnR's career ("My World", "Get in the Ring", "Shotgun Blues").

Still, the good songs are as good as anything on I. Highlights: "Estranged", "Civil War", "You Could Be Mine", "14 Years", "Locomotive".

My favorite album of Guns N' Roses

Vastly superior to Use Your Illusion I

I had this one coppy in cassete, till get hands tro orginal .... opening song awesomne, this is softest album, softer than I , but seems band worked on music and lyrics werry much .... pertty interesting, even conflitcs, Axels mind fuck up, alcohol, they manidge write good one , well we know last one orgial album whit orginal line up .... I like pretty much all songs , ok my world ... seomehow Axel rocker dessing , somehow he seems like hip hop fashion

One of my favourite albums of all time. Especially love Estranged.

But there are many other fantastic tracks too.

I think "Civil War" is probably the best song the Gunners ever did. I agree with Angelic Storm about the ridiculous Axl rant in "Get in the Ring" being a major flaw in the album. But all in all, this is a good album that contains some very good songs. I remember absolutely loving the single "You Could be Mine" when it first came out as a promotional song for the Terminator 2 movie. Couldn't get enough of it. And "Pretty Tied Up" is a catchy number.

Written by Ace Frawley on 29.04.2014 at 09:42

I think "Civil War" is probably the best song the Gunners ever did. I agree with Angelic Storm about the ridiculous Axl rant in "Get in the Ring" being a major flaw in the album. But all in all, this is a good album that contains some very good songs. I remember absolutely loving the single "You Could be Mine" when it first came out as a promotional song for the Terminator 2 movie. Couldn't get enough of it. And "Pretty Tied Up" is a catchy number.

"Coma" gets my vote for best GnR song, but "Civil War" is certainly up there with their very best stuff. It's a wonderful song. And yeah, that rant pretty much ruins what could have been a great song.

Yep, when "You Could Be Mine" was released as a single, I listened to it constantly. I remember I first taped it off the radio during the top 40 chart show! It is a killer song, and could easily have been on Appetite. In fact, I think that song was written during the Appetite sessions. Overall, this album certainly has it's flaws, but the killer material on offer makes up for them.

Right, but what about Duff's rant in "Get in the Ring"? It's as stupid as Axl's. Something about yeast infections and whatnot. That song never had a chance of being anything other than awful.

Written by deadone on 30.04.2014 at 01:51
I like that rant.

It reminds me of all those shit mags I used to read as a teenager, back when Hot Metal and Metal Hammer were "uber brutal" cause they had occassional real metal bands along with the glam and grunge stuff.

It took Metal Hammer a lot longer to become a joke than the likes of Kerrang!.

Written by deadone on 30.04.2014 at 07:18

Too true.

The Australian version of Kerrang released ten or so years ago was dismal even for alternative rock.

I started reading Kerrang! in the late 80's, when I first started getting into hard rock/metal music. And back then, it was pretty good, as I could read about bands like Annihilator and Nuclear Assault, as well as the more usual mainstream fare. By the mid-90's, the mag had gone seriously downhill, and since the 2000's, it's totally unrecognizable from the mag I started reading in the late 80's. Since then, it's all about the likes of Paramore, and Fall Out Boy, so yep, even as an alternative rock mag, it pretty much sucks nowadays. But even as far back as the early 90's, I was buying imported mags which were much more metal orientated, because the likes of Kerrang! weren't cutting it for me, in terms of me getting my fix of metal news of the day.

The problem with that mag, is it's always based around the current musical trends of the time, and what's "fashionable". By the mid-90's, it was only concerned about what was "trendy". It started out as a good mag, but now it's just awful. Even Metal Hammer nowadays isn't quite as bad as Kerrang!, which is saying something!

Written by Angelic Storm on 29.04.2014 at 12:59

Written by Ace Frawley on 29.04.2014 at 09:42

"Coma" gets my vote for best GnR song, but "Civil War" is certainly up there with their very best stuff. It's a wonderful song.

I'd probably put Estranged ahead of Coma. Maybe.
Don't make me choose.

Written by M C Vice on 30.04.2014 at 11:00
I'd probably put Estranged ahead of Coma. Maybe.
Don't make me choose.

Don't worry, I won't. Estranged is an amazing song, and definitely one of the all time classic hard rock epics.

Written by M C Vice on 30.04.2014 at 11:00

I'd probably put Estranged ahead of Coma. Maybe.

So would I. Not by a lot, but still.

Anyway, let's get real here, we all know the best GnR song is "Nightrain".

Written by Azarath on 30.04.2014 at 16:45

Anyway, let's get real here, we all know the best GnR song is "Nightrain".

NO!!!!

The best GnR song is, as everyone with functioning ears and brains knows, 'Rocket Queen' and then 'Civil War'.

I love how everyone has given a different answer to which song is their G n'R favourite. Just shows how many great songs were on the albums made with the classic line-up.

I agree with Rocket Queen being the best GnR album, but would probably put about half of Appetite before anything else they've done (My Michelle, Mr Brownstone, Nightrain, It's So Easy, Out Ta Get Me, and the classic tracks, although I've never been that enamored with Sweet Child Of Mine, probably due to oversaturation).

As far as the Illusions go, I think II is stronger than I, which has some great tracks like Coma, November Rain, Don't Cry and Dust n' Bones, but the rest of which I could live without for the most part. As far as this one goes, I love Estranged, but like pretty much every song from the first 12 except So Fine and to a degree Get in the Ring and Shotgun Blues. However, the alternate version of Don't Cry has some awful vocal lines compared to the original, and the last track is the worst ending to a good album outside of the untitled conclusion to Sap by Alice In Chains. Still, it's GnR, whose work I like/love for the most part past and present.

I loved and still do the Illusion package. It's mostly the long, epic songs that still send shivers down my spine. Coma is a fu*king masterpiece! Goes same for the epic Civil War and incredibly emotional Estranged, not to mention the classic November Rain. These songs are just pure brilliancy in sound. The res of the song still get my groove going, like Back Off Bitch, You Could Be Mine and Breakdown. I, however, totally prefer Don't Cry with alt. lyrics than the regular one.

I hold GnR close to my heart, as it was the band I grew up with. Still, Appetite holds the throne, because that album is just flawless, but then again, Illusions are to be heard and viewed by a different angle. With Appetite, Gnr was raw rock, while Illusions had more etherial and epic overtone.

I'd die for another mindblowing package like this from GnR.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.04.2014 at 18:18


The best GnR song is, as everyone with functioning ears and brains knows, 'Rocket Queen'

That's a good point.

Written by deadone on 01.05.2014 at 02:08

I still haven't listened to Chinese Democracy due to the fear of it being shit.

Well, I think it's great, but most people thinks it's shit (same as Judas Priest's Nostradamus and Gallhammer's Ill Innocence). The title track and Catcher In The Rye are the only songs on it that I think are duds. I thinks it's better than Lies and The Spaghetti Incident.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.04.2014 at 18:18

NO!!!!

The best GnR song is, as everyone with functioning ears and brains knows, 'Rocket Queen' and then 'Civil War'.

NOOO!!!!!!!!

GnR's best song is clearly Mr Brownstone, followed by Civil War and Nightrain

Written by M C Vice on 01.05.2014 at 09:38
Well, I think it's great, but most people thinks it's shit (same as Judas Priest's Nostradamus and Gallhammer's Ill Innocence). The title track and Catcher In The Rye are the only songs on it that I think are duds. I thinks it's better than Lies and The Spaghetti Incident.

"Chinese Democracy" is looked down upon for 2 main reasons, I think. One, is that has the G n'R name on it, and two, that it took 14 years to complete. Taken on it's own merits, I actually think it's a pretty good album, although it's not as good as Appetite, or either of the Illusions. The main issue I have with it, is it's overlong, and a bit patchy. But the good songs on the album, are really good.

Written by Angelic Storm on 30.04.2014 at 21:13

I love how everyone has given a different answer to which song is their G n'R favourite. Just shows how many great songs were on the albums made with the classic line-up.

whole album is great , its like one album whit one song and whole is great