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Posted by Axe Argonian on 14.01.2011 at 03:06
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I had a suggestion regarding the album-voting system. Because I feel somewhat limited when voting for albums, I think that a more specific album-voting system would be quite useful. I think that a system in which the user, instead of being limited to voting by whole rounded numbers, is allowed to vote by .5 numbers would be very helpful, for not all the time do whole numbers reflect people's opinions on albums. Yes, I understand that users can fully elaborate their opinions on the comment pages, but quite honestly, a more efficient voting system would prove to be quite concise for users when they rate albums in their own personal collections.
Feedback would be appreciated, thank you.
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23.01.2013 at 05:04
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Written by Kuroboshi on 06.01.2013 at 06:58
Genius stuff, scroll up to look at it.
In agreement with this
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23.01.2013 at 05:41
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Written by BitterCOld on 22.01.2013 at 23:47
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I can understand and respect your opinion, but I don't like it for two reasons. 1) It's such a depressive outlook. I think we should work for improving stuff, even if everyone does not abide the rules, gives a shit, etc. 2) Maybe the whole metal community is not rational, but I think you give people less credit than they deserve. It might just be the system that makes people stupid, right? And, there IS actually a lot of intelligent discussion going on around here.
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23.01.2013 at 09:53
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Written by Kuroboshi on 23.01.2013 at 05:41
Written by BitterCOld on 22.01.2013 at 23:47
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I can understand and respect your opinion, but I don't like it for two reasons. 1) It's such a depressive outlook. I think we should work for improving stuff, even if everyone does not abide the rules, gives a shit, etc. 2) Maybe the whole metal community is not rational, but I think you give people less credit than they deserve. It might just be the system that makes people stupid, right? And, there IS actually a lot of intelligent discussion going on around here.
The only decent scale that works is 'yes', 'no' and 'meh'. Life's hard, get used to it, and vote in round numbers.
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 !J.O.O.E.!
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24.01.2013 at 15:26
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I would argue people have a tendency to round up, not down (especially on stuff over 7), so adding .5s would likely reduce the overall scores, most notably the over abundance of 10s thrown around. I for one would would reduce the majority of my 10s to 9.5s.
Also, since when was the consensus of 8 to be "sucks?" People might have downtrodden views about good scores but it's certainly not applicable to 8s. 7 is, and always has been, the international sign for "average" and generally not something of particular worth. If you think people go around slapping 8s on stuff that they're "meh" about then you need to get out and see the beauty of the world.
If we have the ability to review something and be given the ridiculous and arbitrary freedom to reduce it down to 100th of a number (at best basing the rating on vague instinct) then I don't see why being able to rate it down to 1/20th could be seen as a bad thing, rather than the flawed out-of-ten system (out-of-five is much better in fact and a system I would be equally in favour of). Fact is that there's a horrible psychology to numbers that are rarely representative of what they should be, particularly the difference between a 7 (mediocre; not worth much attention) and 8 (more than just "good;" a staple listen). Adding a .5 system would go far in quashing that.
So yeah, 10 system with .5 increments, thus abolishing the retarded and futile attempts at ascribing worded descriptive meanings to the numbers along with the utterly backwards colour coding it has and giving people enough freedom to make more accurate ratings and alleviating those psychological gaps, or out-of-five which reduces the rating to its simplest quantitative form whilst maintaining some variation, or rather as much as is needed, as well as getting rid of the dreaded "perfect ten" trope and the irrelevant 2/10, 3/10 and 4/10 ratings that come with the 10 system (because anything below a 5 or 6 is automatically regarded as shit, as average is effectively a negative score when it comes to personal taste; no one listens to average albums after deciding it to be so).
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25.01.2013 at 12:16
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Written by disarray on 15.01.2011 at 22:11
I support... but respect this current system, if it's found to be the best solution. Also, I'd like to see 6 as a slightly beyond average & 5 as the slightly below average. Now 5 is "not good", though in my mind it's like a 2½ stars of the maximum 5; meaning it's pretty decent. Then again, we all think differently and this current system is satisfying. <- well, there I made my writings pretty pointless 
This is a response to you, Kuroboshi, and !J.O.O.E.!
To me, I grade things the way a schoolteacher would grade them. 70% (or 7) is a C, and that is average. In order to give an album a second thought, at must be at least average or higher. 60% is still a D, so it passes, but hardly. Any lower than that is a failure. The different low ratings are still useful, as things can still be a certain grade of failure. I've heard teachers say that getting a 50% on an assignment is much better for your overall grade than neglecting to turn it in and getting a 0%. For instance, perhaps I really dislike an album and decide to rate it a 4. I decide that it doesn't deserve to be rated it lower, because I know there's something worthy on it for someone else who has a completely different set of tastes than I. It probably deserves a higher average, even if I hate it. If it's something like Lulu, though, I'll rate it a 2, as I can't find a single millisecond of its sound that is redeeming.
I've never liked the 5 star system, as I've always personally rated things on the scale of 1-10 (or 0%-100%), due to my feelings of the 1-10 rating relating to grades. The 5 star system confuses me. Something that's 4 star is supposedly excellent, but when you convert it to a percentage (80%), it then appears to simply be an above average grade. Thus, for people like me, it's hard to determine how good the community perceives the album to be through that rating.
I would personally love to use a rating system that uses tenths of a number (7.1, 7.2, 7.3, etc., like in the reviews), providing a 1-100 rating system, but as !J.O.O.E.! has stated, for many it can end up being a lot of instinctual guesswork. It wouldn't really work for the whole community.
I don't think color is a big issue here, as green is an A (or A plus), yellow is a B or a C, Orange is a D (or a high F), and the rest of the red ratings are just different levels of failure. It all makes sense to me. I also agree with the current scheme of the labels/scale for each rating. The only real addition I think would make a lot of sense for all of us is the .5 rating, but no change is fine as well. As long as we don't change it to a 5/5 rating, I think I'll be okay.
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02.02.2013 at 19:40
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It's pretty funny to see how Axe Argonian, who created this topic, is offline for a year...
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02.02.2013 at 19:52
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Written by R Lewis on 02.02.2013 at 19:40
It's pretty funny to see how Axe Argonian, who created this topic, is offline for a year...
Well what do you want to happen? Let's delete everything except the handful? Let's remove the history?
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R Lewis
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02.02.2013 at 19:57
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Written by disarray on 02.02.2013 at 19:52
Well what do you want to happen? Let's delete everything except the handful? Let's remove the history?
I'm sorry if it seemed I meant this. It simply made me smile the fact that for an year nearly nobody cared about this topic, and now it seems to have become of the utmost importance. Just this, no polemical purposes.
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disarray
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02.02.2013 at 20:05
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Written by R Lewis on 02.02.2013 at 19:57
I'm sorry if it seemed I meant this. It simply made me smile the fact that for an year nearly nobody cared about this topic, and now it seems to have become of the utmost importance. Just this, no polemical purposes.
Anyway, this is a wrong topic for that discussion. Rather continue it in that other thread where you posted about it.
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