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Posted by Baz Anderson on 15.03.2011 at 18:14
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nobody

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  27.10.2014 at 11:42
Written by M C Vice on 27.10.2014 at 09:34

Since Obtained Enslavement's 1st album and earlier demos aren't symphonic black, could they get changed to black metal up until 95/96/97 (not sure when the change occurred, somewhere between albums). Also the 92 demo sounds rather death/blackened death, although someone should probably double check that as I don't really trust my judgement with identifying death metal.


we have it In main genre
1989-1992 Death metal
1992-2000 Symphonic black metal
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  27.10.2014 at 14:28
Added styles for Omnerod:
2009- Extreme progressive metal
2009- Avantgarde metal

It's hard to categorise these guys into a refined style, since they're all over the place. Post-metal, fusion, tech death, and prog death are also quite prevalent styles in their writing
M C Vice
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  28.10.2014 at 01:50
Written by Bad English on 27.10.2014 at 11:42

Written by M C Vice on 27.10.2014 at 09:34

Since Obtained Enslavement's 1st album and earlier demos aren't symphonic black, could they get changed to black metal up until 95/96/97 (not sure when the change occurred, somewhere between albums). Also the 92 demo sounds rather death/blackened death, although someone should probably double check that as I don't really trust my judgement with identifying death metal.


we have it In main genre
1989-1992 Death metal
1992-2000 Symphonic black metal

But 92-at least 94 aren't symphonic black. That's what I said the 1st time. They're more like regular black.
EDIT; I had the 2 demos round the wrong way. The 93 one sounds more death-y than the 92 one.
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nobody

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  28.10.2014 at 02:54
Written by M C Vice on 28.10.2014 at 01:50

Written by Bad English on 27.10.2014 at 11:42

Written by M C Vice on 27.10.2014 at 09:34

Since Obtained Enslavement's 1st album and earlier demos aren't symphonic black, could they get changed to black metal up until 95/96/97 (not sure when the change occurred, somewhere between albums). Also the 92 demo sounds rather death/blackened death, although someone should probably double check that as I don't really trust my judgement with identifying death metal.


we have it In main genre
1989-1992 Death metal
1992-2000 Symphonic black metal

But 92-at least 94 aren't symphonic black. That's what I said the 1st time. They're more like regular black.


I see
cant fix it anyway , staff can
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  29.10.2014 at 09:23
Written by M C Vice on 27.10.2014 at 09:34

Since Obtained Enslavement's 1st album and earlier demos aren't symphonic black, could they get changed to black metal up until 95/96/97 (not sure when the change occurred, somewhere between albums). Also the 92 demo sounds rather death/blackened death, although someone should probably double check that as I don't really trust my judgement with identifying death metal.

How's it look now?
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psykometal
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  29.10.2014 at 09:30
Written by LeKiwi on 27.10.2014 at 14:28

Added styles for Omnerod:
2009- Extreme progressive metal
2009- Avantgarde metal

It's hard to categorise these guys into a refined style, since they're all over the place. Post-metal, fusion, tech death, and prog death are also quite prevalent styles in their writing

I don't think I'm the only who will "wtf?!" listing a band as both prog and avant at the same time, so I'll give the album a spin to see if I can come up with something a little more specific.

Edit: As I expected there's nothing avantgarde about it. The prevalent sound I hear is prog death, but there is also some non-death prog as well. All in all I'd say the release is primarily prog death, but one could go with extreme prog instead if more people feel it to be more balanced between the death and non-death prog.
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M C Vice
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  29.10.2014 at 11:08
Written by psykometal on 29.10.2014 at 09:23

Written by M C Vice on 27.10.2014 at 09:34

Since Obtained Enslavement's 1st album and earlier demos aren't symphonic black, could they get changed to black metal up until 95/96/97 (not sure when the change occurred, somewhere between albums). Also the 92 demo sounds rather death/blackened death, although someone should probably double check that as I don't really trust my judgement with identifying death metal.

How's it look now?

Probably right. Like I said, the style change came somewhere between the first 2 albums. Thanks.
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psykometal
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  29.10.2014 at 11:26
Written by M C Vice on 29.10.2014 at 11:08

Probably right. Like I said, the style change came somewhere between the first 2 albums. Thanks.

Nada problema, Amigo.
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LeKiwi
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  29.10.2014 at 11:47
Written by psykometal on 29.10.2014 at 09:30

I don't think I'm the only who will "wtf?!" listing a band as both prog and avant at the same time, so I'll give the album a spin to see if I can come up with something a little more specific.

Edit: As I expected there's nothing avantgarde about it. The prevalent sound I hear is prog death, but there is also some non-death prog as well. All in all I'd say the release is primarily prog death, but one could go with extreme prog instead if more people feel it to be more balanced between the death and non-death prog.

Would it be inappropriate to tag them as both extreme prog and prog death?
psykometal
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  29.10.2014 at 12:00
Written by LeKiwi on 29.10.2014 at 11:47

Would it be inappropriate to tag them as both extreme prog and prog death?

I do feel like that would be just unnecessary overkill.
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Thought Police

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  29.10.2014 at 12:03
I honestly don't recall much death metal in Omnerod. Just because there are harsh vocals going on it doesn't mean the music is death metal. Extreme prog probably suits them best as it covers most things (and Omnerod covers a lot of sounds and styles).
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nobody

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  29.10.2014 at 12:11
This is why I hate modern bands, you cat label them ... old days it was easy some hairy letter jacket dudes running around, playing fast, its thrash
some dudes lose buy 'gator farm have extreme vox its dead
corpse paint and extreme guitar soundm its black
happy smiling guys whit a lot of women and hits are on MTV , its hart or glam ....

now its hard define genre anymore those who goes out of classical definition
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Thought Police

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  29.10.2014 at 12:13
In fairness Omnerod are harder to pigeon-hole than most, seeing as their music employs prog, mathcore, djent, ambient (possibly some death metal here and there) and the kitchen sink.
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LeKiwi
High Fist Prog

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  29.10.2014 at 13:11
That's why I decided to add avant-garde, because of their frequent style-hopping
Risto
Wandering Midget

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  29.10.2014 at 14:22
Written by psykometal on 29.10.2014 at 09:30

I don't think I'm the only who will "wtf?!" listing a band as both prog and avant at the same time, so I'll give the album a spin to see if I can come up with something a little more specific.

Progressive and avantgarde aren't mutually exclusive. Take my Oddland suggestion for example: a mix of traditional prog metal and math metal. It just doesn't sound like typical math metal because of the out-of-the-box approach

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