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Posted by Troy Killjoy on 14.12.2011 at 23:17
Due to the off-topic conversations in the love thread leading to talks of suicide, depression, angst, anxiety, and the likes...

This is your place to discuss your inner conflicts, share with others or simply give positive advice to people suffering. Reflect on past experiences, post your views on mental illnesses, share stories of family members who suffer from such illnesses - basically just keep it on topic.

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FOOCK Nam

Posts: 3571

Age: 28
From: Vietnam

  31.08.2016 at 06:03
Thanks ppl openly more positive about mental health issue.. Adhd is not big trouble, dont worry too much, you will be healed.. Still not always lean too much meds but not much worry when needs taking it.. Everybody all human individual will have their own diseases soon or late, meds or medical with soon or late, mental health is just stigmata but unreal actually not a significant trouble.. especially in advance country.. I wish best sincerely for betterment of mental health quality in Indian and asia, and shit, for fuking nam too..

Edit: keep going discussion, its internet, not in real life reality, in real life reality, more watch but silently..
FOOCK Nam

Posts: 3571

Age: 28
From: Vietnam

  31.08.2016 at 06:41
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 26.08.2016 at 20:26

Written by 3rdWorld on 26.08.2016 at 19:02

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 26.08.2016 at 08:21

That's depression.

Not really. It feels like a state of depressive anhedonia.


As long as it's not harming to yourself, it's perfectly fine.

You know I don't get depression and want to know why? I believe in chronic wankery.

Masturbation is not bad, and do positive affect reduce depression. But may i ask your sleeping quality is good ? How many hours nightly or daily..? Its really kindful if you would answer me, its greater if detailedly. Thank you in advance for your reply.. Looking forwards to the answer.. If you want,fee free to pm bro.
Cynic Metalhead
Atrocious Virgin

Posts: 4740

Age: 26
From: India

  31.08.2016 at 08:43
Written by FOOCK Nam on 31.08.2016 at 06:41

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 26.08.2016 at 20:26

Written by 3rdWorld on 26.08.2016 at 19:02

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 26.08.2016 at 08:21

That's depression.

Not really. It feels like a state of depressive anhedonia.


As long as it's not harming to yourself, it's perfectly fine.

You know I don't get depression and want to know why? I believe in chronic wankery.

But may i ask your sleeping quality is good ? How many hours nightly or daily..?


Pathetic.

My day wrap up around 1-1.25 in the night and gets up at 6.45 for work out.

Somehow, due to lack of sleep I develop sleazy eyes, off the mood for hours and hours and that really discomfort my folks around me. Getting a hyperactive from past a month and feel that decisions taken(towards my life) could have been better. Doing absolutely good when it comes to work for school as Student Counselor and also really enjoying my work. But, as for personal benefit I have to agree here that I may have developed some of those annoying exterior attributes which I think isn't good for me or for my folks here.

As far as depression is concerned, it depends from person to person. I'm that guy who never get disappointed no matter how much I feel high or low. I always take decisions which feels best to me and can be implemented in best possible way. Sometimes it fail, backfired to me and but i'd still work the way i always work upon.

Although, lot of problem came happily on my way and try to destroy me from head to toe but I never felt any depress for anything( be in relationship, work schedule, peer pressure, lifestyle or coping with my body due to change of environment( from Cardiff to India) 'cause as said, i deal in the way i want to and it always work.

May be in future i might have to change my way of working but as of now, it really helps me to take decisions on my own terms.
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FOOCK Nam

Posts: 3571

Age: 28
From: Vietnam

  01.09.2016 at 09:42
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 31.08.2016 at 08:43

Written by FOOCK Nam on 31.08.2016 at 06:41

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 26.08.2016 at 20:26

Written by 3rdWorld on 26.08.2016 at 19:02

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 26.08.2016 at 08:21

That's depression.

Not really. It feels like a state of depressive anhedonia.


As long as it's not harming to yourself, it's perfectly fine.

You know I don't get depression and want to know why? I believe in chronic wankery.

But may i ask your sleeping quality is good ? How many hours nightly or daily..?


Pathetic.

My day wrap up around 1-1.25 in the night and gets up at 6.45 for work out.

Somehow, due to lack of sleep I develop sleazy eyes, off the mood for hours and hours and that really discomfort my folks around me. Getting a hyperactive from past a month and feel that decisions taken(towards my life) could have been better. Doing absolutely good when it comes to work for school as Student Counselor and also really enjoying my work. But, as for personal benefit I have to agree here that I may have developed some of those annoying exterior attributes which I think isn't good for me or for my folks here.

As far as depression is concerned, it depends from person to person. I'm that guy who never get disappointed no matter how much I feel high or low. I always take decisions which feels best to me and can be implemented in best possible way. Sometimes it fail, backfired to me and but i'd still work the way i always work upon.

Although, lot of problem came happily on my way and try to destroy me from head to toe but I never felt any depress for anything( be in relationship, work schedule, peer pressure, lifestyle or coping with my body due to change of environment( from Cardiff to India) 'cause as said, i deal in the way i want to and it always work.

May be in future i might have to change my way of working but as of now, it really helps me to take decisions on my own terms.

Cool man you dont have much depression i think, i remember you used to be strong never sick in 8-12 years and used to swam..i used to wankery too but many more, now less even no longer..both of us need to sleep more, i will try better sleep more times. hours..Work out business is good i dont have a job but i work it different way, need relax more., strong is good but not necessily tough like navy seal, sweden teach moderation, navy seal consider moderation is coward, damn, life is not army..best.
no one

Posts: 4131

Age: 33
From: New Zealand

  01.09.2016 at 21:14
People who struggle through life with depression are actually very strong people. The normal task of someone without depression is done without effort, but it is a massive struggle for people with really bad depression. So depressed people are actually very strong hard fighting people even though they may come across as lazy and apathetic.
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!J.O.O.E.!
Defunct

Posts: 18548

Age: 32
From: UK

  04.09.2016 at 19:25
Written by no one on 30.08.2016 at 12:05

Well at least with Ritalin you can sell it to low life's like me, it gives a speed type high but slow at the same time for people who don't have adhd.

Haha, well the stuff I think I'll be put on is long acting ones that have a kind of timed release thing going on over 12 hours. I imagine it would still be good for university and stuff like that though.
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Defunct

Posts: 18548

Age: 32
From: UK

  04.09.2016 at 19:28
Written by Mikolaj on 30.08.2016 at 11:48

The pills I'm using are called Venlafaxin, they are actually antidepressants I think, but they help me to be more incentive. I had quite major depression last year, which come to think of it, could have been a result of ADHD. Now I'm doing things just with a complete different mindset. I'm much more motivated and my concentration has increased drastically. I still have moments of divertissement but generally its much much better now.

I hope that I can make a diagnosis as fast as possible but I have honestly no idea how difficult it is to make one over here where I live. I'm also a bit sceptical about ritalin but it might help I guess.

Yeah I'm also somewhat apprehensive about taking ritalin too. Perhaps it's just because people are more likely to complain about things than talk about positive experiences but there seems to be a fair amount of people that have issues with ritalin, like headaches, anxiety etc. Guess I'll find out soon enough. Still have to have a 24 hour blood pressure test as supposedly my blood pressure was quite high, so hoping they'll actually let me take it.
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!J.O.O.E.!
Defunct

Posts: 18548

Age: 32
From: UK

  04.09.2016 at 19:31
Written by Vombatus on 28.08.2016 at 12:32

I took Ritalin a few times to get high, it's a nice and cheap way to do it But that's coz I have a friend with ADHD who takes a lot of it.

Like a lot of people, I also tick most of the boxes for ADHD but I have difficulties to discern whether it's actually the condition, laziness or just something else.

Always had attention problems, get distracted easily, learning disabilities coz I couldn't bother paying attention, and when something doesn't really interest me it's almost impossible for me to complete it correctly or on time.
It's particularly annoying at work, where I just watch the deadline approach and have this urge to continue procrastinating yet internally always want to puch myself to do it. Then I start freaking out when the end is near and do the job in crappy way (or at least, knowing I can do much better) or just admit I didn't do it. I also get burned out of doing the same tasks with extreme ease, which worsens the situation considerably. On top of that, I tend to turn off my brain (as in, I don't really know what I'm thinking of at that moment) when someone talks about something I'm not interest in, which makes for some weird situations sometimes

On the other hand, I have great memory for details and overall, I'm quite well organized and tidy. So that probably rules out ADHD, and I'm just lazy (or something worse ).

I dunno, a lot of what you just said sounds very much like ADHD, but I guess it's a really hard thing to diagnose. I think over here a lot of it is how you were as a child. Because I was a bit crazy and kicked out of a bunch of schools I think the diagnoses was fairly simple, but if someone didn't display symptoms as a kid I'm not sure many specialists would be willing to diagnose an adult with ADHD.
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Defunct

Posts: 18548

Age: 32
From: UK

  04.09.2016 at 19:34
Written by Angel N. on 28.08.2016 at 19:33

Oh fuck don't tell me about that shitty critiques, I study English Philology... I can't believe it myself that I managed to do half of it up to now. And I can't tell you how much I hate those pretentiously written critiques and everyone in these classes go crazy for them, they take all these nonsense gibberish academic blah blah blah for granted.

I don't mind reading, I loved literature before university, but apparently I had to study it in university to hate what I do forever. Don't call me a hater, it's just that imagine you write 5000 words paper and all they care in this shit is your typos, grammar errors and fucking methodology, rarely in these classes someone discuss the intellectual content of papers. One reason to be depressed so often to get to know more and more your education means shit. It means nothing. It goes to nowhere.

Yeah unfortunately getting a degree in this country means very little in terms of getting yourself a job. Maybe getting a Masters helps, but some people say it actually doesn't much. More about who you know most of the time, not what you know. I think university is probably best looked at as a personal thing, something to enjoy. Hard to sometimes given the pretentious twaddle we have to read, but I guess it depends on the course you're doing.
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Gothika Groovy

Posts: 45
From: USA

  04.09.2016 at 21:41
Well, I know all about depression because I am bi-polar myself...found out when I was like 22 yrs. old. My advice would be if you have severe depression you should call the doctor to be properly diagnosed and take any medication that you need to take...and if you ever need to talk, don't be shy..talk to a parent, friend, your doctor, priest and so forth..and never be ashamed that your depressed...8-]]
Mikolaj

Posts: 407

Age: 21
From: Poland

  04.09.2016 at 23:48
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 04.09.2016 at 19:28

Written by Mikolaj on 30.08.2016 at 11:48

The pills I'm using are called Venlafaxin, they are actually antidepressants I think, but they help me to be more incentive. I had quite major depression last year, which come to think of it, could have been a result of ADHD. Now I'm doing things just with a complete different mindset. I'm much more motivated and my concentration has increased drastically. I still have moments of divertissement but generally its much much better now.

I hope that I can make a diagnosis as fast as possible but I have honestly no idea how difficult it is to make one over here where I live. I'm also a bit sceptical about ritalin but it might help I guess.

Yeah I'm also somewhat apprehensive about taking ritalin too. Perhaps it's just because people are more likely to complain about things than talk about positive experiences but there seems to be a fair amount of people that have issues with ritalin, like headaches, anxiety etc. Guess I'll find out soon enough. Still have to have a 24 hour blood pressure test as supposedly my blood pressure was quite high, so hoping they'll actually let me take it.

Well if it turns out that I have ADHD and I have to take Ritalin than I will do that. After all, I dont really see an other option to deal with it, so probably for the best. You also say that you were considered hyperactive as a child, well that wasnt really my case. I was disorganized and a dreamer but I think that I was just normal active. I always had a big urge to move though, but I guess thats a normal thing for a child.
no one

Posts: 4131

Age: 33
From: New Zealand

  05.09.2016 at 03:08
Written by Gothika Groovy on 04.09.2016 at 21:41

Well, I know all about depression because I am bi-polar myself...found out when I was like 22 yrs. old. My advice would be if you have severe depression you should call the doctor to be properly diagnosed and take any medication that you need to take...and if you ever need to talk, don't be shy..talk to a parent, friend, your doctor, priest and so forth..and never be ashamed that your depressed...8-]]

How do you deal with bi polar? I worked with a guy who had bi polar and he was probably the most loose guy I have known. He worked 7 days a week for 364 days of the year (I'm not shitting) sometimes for free! He was delusional and ended up leaving for ideas made up in his head about the boss ripping everyone off. He often smoked about 13 cones a day.

He was sane enough to live life without causing too much trouble, he was on lithium, but I can't help to think he wasn't being looked after properly by his gp or wasn't doing his medication right or something. He literally couldn't sit still at lunch breaks and got massively suspicious about stupid shit.
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nobody
Vombatus
Potorro

Posts: 1939
From: Spain

  05.09.2016 at 13:30
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 04.09.2016 at 19:31

I dunno, a lot of what you just said sounds very much like ADHD, but I guess it's a really hard thing to diagnose. I think over here a lot of it is how you were as a child. Because I was a bit crazy and kicked out of a bunch of schools I think the diagnoses was fairly simple, but if someone didn't display symptoms as a kid I'm not sure many specialists would be willing to diagnose an adult with ADHD.


Yeah, I also read it's difficult to diagnose and that it's something you have since the beginning (as a child, not developped afterwards). But I do remember going quite a few times to the local shrink as a kid coz of these learning/concentration disabilities. Never got diagnosed anything peculiar (perhaps simply retardness? hahaha ) though I know I have OCD. And apparently there are links/common points between ADHD and OCD which might explain behaviour similarities.
I don't really mind anyway, not looking forward to get a "formal" diagnose and start ingesting chemicals on a daily basis (always reluctant towards pharmaceutical stuff if not totally necessary or if I want to get high) as the OCD obsessions only take about 10-20 minutes a day, so it's tolerable for now.
Gothika Groovy

Posts: 45
From: USA

  05.09.2016 at 21:52
Yeah, everyone that has bipolar is different...some can function fairly well and others can't...In my case, I take the Lithium and still have episodes of mania or episodes of depression...is part of the reason I can't work now, my bi polar is bad.. and the question about Ritalin, I believe it is a stimulant if I remember right...You might should take it on a trial basis until you know how it will affect your body...8-]]
Cynic Metalhead
Atrocious Virgin

Posts: 4740

Age: 26
From: India

  08.09.2016 at 09:31
Is getting irritated even on petty issues is sign of depression?!
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no one

Posts: 4131

Age: 33
From: New Zealand

  09.09.2016 at 01:08
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 08.09.2016 at 09:31

Is getting irritated even on petty issues is sign of depression?!

I think posting a lot in a mental illness thread when you have no mental illness and don't have much of anything to say about mental illness is a sign of mental illness
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nobody
Cynic Metalhead
Atrocious Virgin

Posts: 4740

Age: 26
From: India

  09.09.2016 at 07:57
Written by no one on 09.09.2016 at 01:08

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 08.09.2016 at 09:31

Is getting irritated even on petty issues is sign of depression?!

I think posting a lot in a mental illness thread when you have no mental illness and don't have much of anything to say about mental illness is a sign of mental illness


Well, I should have mentioned that it has nothing to do with me.

It was my brother who seems to be quite exasperated from past a month. Also, posting in mental illness thread signifies sign of mental illness is like posting series of posts in prog thread making you to inclined towards progressive music.
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no one

Posts: 4131

Age: 33
From: New Zealand

  09.09.2016 at 11:53
Written by Cynic Metalhead on 09.09.2016 at 07:57



Well, I should have mentioned that it has nothing to do with me.

It was my brother who seems to be quite exasperated from past a month. Also, posting in mental illness thread signifies sign of mental illness is like posting series of posts in prog thread making you to inclined towards progressive music.


i didn't even realise you were serious.
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nobody
Enteroctopus

Posts: 155
From: USA

  13.09.2016 at 22:49
As for "mental illness" broadly, it is just too diverse of a spectrum of disorders to possibly approach (well) in one thread, but depression seems to be a common experience. I would say real depression, as in clinical (vs situational, like your cat died or school sucks, which is definitely does) is related to intelligence and sensitivity, or awareness of things most people are unable or choose to ignore. Take for example Edgar Allen Poe and Sylvia Plath, two very awesome writers, probably 150-180 IQs, both of 'em, and major issues with depression. Plath committed suicide as well.

You can overgeneralize anything, though, and especially when you're a layperson like myself. I have found that I am more sensitive to things, more aware of things than most people, like I find myself dissecting the intricacies of a situation, the possibilities and "what-if" scenarios and this makes it difficult to cut loose and enjoy a party, for example. Instead of just getting drunk and finding some girl to have sex with I sit and sip a drink and think about how pointless it all is and actually feel sorry for the women vs any desire to have sex with anyone. It's like, "Man, that's really sad that people just go out and get wasted and hook up, how empty and depressing!"

And if I'd have just gone out and hooked up I might have had a good time!

As far as ADD/ADHD again I am a layperson, but one diagnosed as such (ADD) as a child. I find that most of my problems stem from a difficulty in communicating with others, and that I might attribute to being younger than most of my classmates, and also a bit academically advanced of them, so bored out of my mind in class (because I was a couple of grades ahead, out of pure interest and simply reading about it on my own, or talking with adults.)

Now that is not to say I don't have symptoms, can't check off some of the boxes that might put me in the ADD/HD "spectrum," but as many could be found for Asperger's because I've read those, too. I also score fairly high on anxiety and depression. What a bunch of crap!! Those diagnostic criteria, especially in the hands of a layperson reading a dot-com "medical" site just leads to confusion and misuse of the diagnostic. Even doctors are likely to draw the wrong conclusions or take a "best guess" because it's their job to fix it when the fact is they don't have a reliable way to objectively figure out what is going on.

Go to an ADD doctor. Guess what? You've got ADD! That's what my parents did.

I just think with regard to my being reasonably intelligent and rather cynical about the usual "normal" social behaviors (hooking up, acting like a douchebag) that I should live in the woods, which I do. I should keep away from people most of the time (check), and surround myself with like-minded individuals (check), and do what I can to relax and enjoy life (check).

Works for me, but maybe not for everyone. A bit of physical exercise, meditation, and just staying on top of my anger, depression, etc. and not allowing it to get out of hand is quite effective.

Then again, there are clinical (as in REAL) cases of all of these things, and those people actually require medication, doctors, talk therapy, etc. and should in no way be ashamed of it. Break a leg? You need a cast. Depression, bi-polar? You need a psych and some meds. Whatever, it's medical. We should drop the stigma.
3rdWorld
The Psilosopher

Posts: 1789

Age: 24
From: India

  24.09.2016 at 00:35
^Pretty weird. "I overthink everything hence I am smart hence I get depressed since I think and analyze about more things than others" sounds to me like nothing but a coping mechanism you may have developed.
no one

Posts: 4131

Age: 33
From: New Zealand

  24.09.2016 at 03:33
I hate the "if your legs broken you put a cast on it" mentality doctors use for medication. A cast isn't going to heal a broken mind.
I was also wondering where the fuck my intelligence is after being depressed all these years
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Angel N.
Evil Butterfly

Posts: 2206
From: Germany

  28.09.2016 at 00:25
Is it part of depression that in middle of some joyful moments something so traumatic passes your mind impulsively?
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3rdWorld
The Psilosopher

Posts: 1789

Age: 24
From: India

  28.09.2016 at 01:39
Could be something in the vein of Anhedonia/Trauma. I guess it is a case of a very sad memory/moment/though playing back in your mind in the middle of even your most joyous/fun activities/moments. I guess it do falls under some part of depression.
no one

Posts: 4131

Age: 33
From: New Zealand

  28.09.2016 at 02:08
Possibly, does your mind wonder off to thinking about these things in other normal situations too, like when someone's talking to you or your watching a movie or something making you unable to concentrate also leading to anxiety?
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Angel N.
Evil Butterfly

Posts: 2206
From: Germany

  Today at 16:51
Written by no one on 28.09.2016 at 02:08

Possibly, does your mind wonder off to thinking about these things in other normal situations too, like when someone's talking to you or your watching a movie or something making you unable to concentrate also leading to anxiety?

Of course it does all the time. It's terrible. It almost kills all the libido. My mind jumps around damn quickly.
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