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Posted by Unknown user, 11.11.2006 - 14:17
what do you all think about these two taboo subjects? in sweden, prostitution is illegal. i think this is wrong. i want a more liberal society. supply and demand should be put to use. people who are against prostitution always gives the argument "the girls are being used by the men". well, thats the same thing as the guy working at mc donalds is being used, coz its a shitty job with low wage. but what if the girl chooses to be a prostitute. then why is it wrong?
the same with pornography. people say "men learn to see women as objects". well, i admit that i've watched porn, but that doesnt make me look at women as objects. its still supply and demand. people are willing to expose themselves on the camera, and people are willing to pay to see the movies.

as long as no one gets hurt, it should be legal

am i right? what do you think?
01.12.2007 - 17:02
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Tage Westerlund
Written by [user id=26136] on 30.11.2007 at 11:53

shiteaters exists much longer. what about scat porn, thats just sickening.
but if whores think its worth the money and the partners enjoys it, sure, be my guest.
but whores need enough rights


But whores what tahy will do aftre 35 sorry I doubt some guy will fuck them and when thay be 55 thay die in garbage box ... thats a future for prostituts
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01.12.2007 - 18:18
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Written by Bad English on 01.12.2007 at 17:02

Written by [user id=26136] on 30.11.2007 at 11:53

shiteaters exists much longer. what about scat porn, thats just sickening.
but if whores think its worth the money and the partners enjoys it, sure, be my guest.
but whores need enough rights


But whores what tahy will do aftre 35 sorry I doubt some guy will fuck them and when thay be 55 thay die in garbage box ... thats a future for prostituts


That doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to do it before they turn 35. That's their own problem, but hey, it's the same with photo models. And athletes... At some point you get too old to keep doing what you've been doing. So they go look for other jobs. Big deal.
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01.12.2007 - 19:10
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Written by Bad English on 01.12.2007 at 17:02

Written by [user id=26136] on 30.11.2007 at 11:53

shiteaters exists much longer. what about scat porn, thats just sickening.
but if whores think its worth the money and the partners enjoys it, sure, be my guest.
but whores need enough rights


But whores what tahy will do aftre 35 sorry I doubt some guy will fuck them and when thay be 55 thay die in garbage box ... thats a future for prostituts


some like granny sex... your grandpa might pay for these actions...
but its a choice they have to make, if they see some sort of future in being a whore... they should do it
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02.12.2007 - 16:23
Remus
Written by APOHAKC on 29.11.2007 at 15:10

Well, why did I wrote this? With legalization and laws of prostitution such things could be forbidden and gilrs that work in such places would not have to do this sickness, and now, lets see who is that liberal to say, they are also people and that's cool...


Yes, this is called coprophagia, kind of like coprophilia but in this case our practicians enjoy munching someone else's pooh-pooh. You're right, it's sick beyond sickness (worse than necrophilia in my opinion), but hey, different strokes for different folks.

If they would legalize prostitution world-wide, i don't see why this would be tagged illegal. If i was a working girl and some guy wanted me to feed him faeces, then i'd do it, as long as he payed me a hefty wad of cash.

P.S. (not related to topic)

First i thought Anna Nikolic was so hot but now i discovered Suncica Naslovna.. Gosh, do you people not know when to stop??
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02.12.2007 - 19:59
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Remus on 02.12.2007 at 16:23

First i thought Anna Nikolic was so hot but now i discovered Suncica Naslovna.. Gosh, do you people not know when to stop??


Never hear about them
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03.12.2007 - 02:43
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Oh, I heard about them, I heard about them...
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08.12.2007 - 15:15
Remus
Written by Bad English on 02.12.2007 at 19:59

Never heard of them


Off topic:

Well my friend, once in a while you need lo leave the wine-making and travel to the city and get some culture - you know get yo self a copy of the Playboy mag or something

Ana Nikolik http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/433/anacoverjanuarek3.jpg

Suncica Naslovna http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/3641/snnk5.jpg

On topic:

Since this thread is about prostitution AND pornography, I was wondering: Is porn illegal in middle-eastern countries such as Saudi Arabia or Quatar? I mean if they catch you with an issue of Hustler, do they hang you or something?
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08.12.2007 - 15:38
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Tage Westerlund
Grrrrrrrrrrrr wine making are culture, wine dishes are culture ask some italian wine makers thay will grrrr be angry

Those girls lools like sluts for em nothing specialy anyway, I had seen better porno starts, moustly come from wine making countries
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11.12.2007 - 14:17
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As long as it's normal porn and hores desides them self they want you to pay to fuck them so why should it be illigal
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11.12.2007 - 16:15
FOOCK Nam
Agree with K7, whores/ prostitutes dont have future when they are old. But maybe they can accumulate money through their prosititutes working, cannt they?
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11.12.2007 - 18:46
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Tage Westerlund
Written by FOOCK Nam on 11.12.2007 at 16:15

Agree with K7, whores/ prostitutes dont have future when they are old. But maybe they can accumulate money through their prosititutes working, cannt they?


Porn starts can, those who work in marc Dorcel movies, but whores thay had werry litlethay pay to those guys who organise all and also thay had stupid lifetyle spand all in one night, so
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26.12.2007 - 21:36
Darky
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Prostitution has recently become legal here in Iceland. Something about 'making things easier', for example so that drug related problems wont get involved with prostitution problems. I personally think that this is just wrong, people shouldnt flee problems like this.

"It is both legal to solicit sex and to buy sexual services, but it is illegal for a third party to profit from prostitution." Atleast we dont have a 'third party' here in Iceland. But I do find this disgusting. Women may do whatever with their body, sure, but advertising, 'pimps' and all this is just plain wrong. There are millions of young and older women being sold in to prostitution, how can any of that be a 'choice'?

By making prostitution legal is only giving other people more and more chances in for example selling women.
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26.12.2007 - 23:07
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Tage Westerlund
Written by [user id=5170] on 26.12.2007 at 21:36

Prostitution has recently become legal here in Iceland. Something about 'making things easier', for example so that drug related problems wont get involved with prostitution problems. I personally think that this is just wrong, people shouldnt flee problems like this.



Than its firts Scandianavian county who legalise it
Hope Swe and Fin and nor will do same, its be betetr life there
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26.12.2007 - 23:15
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Written by Bad English on 26.12.2007 at 23:07

Written by [user id=5170] on 26.12.2007 at 21:36

Prostitution has recently become legal here in Iceland. Something about 'making things easier', for example so that drug related problems wont get involved with prostitution problems. I personally think that this is just wrong, people shouldnt flee problems like this.



Than its firts Scandianavian county who legalise it
Hope Swe and Fin and nor will do same, its be betetr life there


You really think that things would be better if it were legal there too? The age sex is 'allowed' in iceland was 14 but was then raised to 15 "To make a change.". NOTHING changed. Kids are still fucking the hell out of them at 13 even 12. It wouldnt be 'better' if prostitution were legal. Only more conflicts if anything.
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26.12.2007 - 23:51
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Tage Westerlund
Written by [user id=5170] on 26.12.2007 at 23:15

Written by Bad English on 26.12.2007 at 23:07

Written by [user id=5170] on 26.12.2007 at 21:36

Prostitution has recently become legal here in Iceland. Something about 'making things easier', for example so that drug related problems wont get involved with prostitution problems. I personally think that this is just wrong, people shouldnt flee problems like this.



Than its firts Scandianavian county who legalise it
Hope Swe and Fin and nor will do same, its be betetr life there


You really think that things would be better if it were legal there too? The age sex is 'allowed' in iceland was 14 but was then raised to 15 "To make a change.". NOTHING changed. Kids are still fucking the hell out of them at 13 even 12. It wouldnt be 'better' if prostitution were legal. Only more conflicts if anything.


Ist be lil easyer control prostitution, because Iceland are so small its easyer take care about it, but dunno if there was elegal prostitution, but here its ewery where , if you're forener you can get girl ewery where

About age I have no what to say because ewery do what thay want we cant stop it
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26.12.2007 - 23:59
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Written by Bad English on 26.12.2007 at 23:51

Written by [user id=5170] on 26.12.2007 at 23:15

Written by Bad English on 26.12.2007 at 23:07

Written by [user id=5170] on 26.12.2007 at 21:36

Prostitution has recently become legal here in Iceland. Something about 'making things easier', for example so that drug related problems wont get involved with prostitution problems. I personally think that this is just wrong, people shouldnt flee problems like this.



Than its firts Scandianavian county who legalise it
Hope Swe and Fin and nor will do same, its be betetr life there


You really think that things would be better if it were legal there too? The age sex is 'allowed' in iceland was 14 but was then raised to 15 "To make a change.". NOTHING changed. Kids are still fucking the hell out of them at 13 even 12. It wouldnt be 'better' if prostitution were legal. Only more conflicts if anything.


Ist be lil easyer control prostitution, because Iceland are so small its easyer take care about it, but dunno if there was elegal prostitution, but here its ewery where , if you're forener you can get girl ewery where

About age I have no what to say because ewery do what thay want we cant stop it


Its never easy to take care of anything but you still have to do it. It doesnt matter how small or big the country is, things have to be taken care of and in this case people think that with making prostitution legal then they dont have to worry about it as much, this is bullshit and should be changed.

Prostitution 'problems' shouldnt be a problem and you shouldnt try to ease it by making it legal.
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28.12.2007 - 01:29
EddieGunner
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well this is one capitalistic, thought or solution, prostitution should be legal, just if prostitutes can earn money like other ppl on their jobs they also should pay taxes like it's case in germany,
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28.12.2007 - 15:13
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Tage Westerlund
Written by EddieGunner on 28.12.2007 at 01:29

well this is one capitalistic, thought or solution, prostitution should be legal, just if prostitutes can earn money like other ppl on their jobs they also should pay taxes like it's case in germany,


Thats good point , I atlk about such type of legal prsotituion, but in comunistic way of thinking you always cant pay less how earl so no whoresfrom east Europe
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23.01.2008 - 04:17
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I just got my hands on a copy of Repentrator, the world's first (to my knowledge) ZOMBIE PORN FLICK. Absolutely amazing, the best thing I've seen in ages.
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25.01.2008 - 19:56
Achor
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@Remus: Yes, I'm quite sure pornography is illegal in some of those countries, like Iran. And I don't know abut Iraq now, but before the war it was illegal there aswell.

@Darky: It's good that your government make a difference between drug problems and prostitution problems, 'cause while drugs IS a problem, prostitution is not.

And I think you're wrong when you say that legalized prostitution would give more opportunities to sell women.
When legalized, it's obviously easier for the pimps to do it the right way than to still break laws and stuff. And when it's legalized, it is easier for the government to make restrictions and decide what should really be illegal, like trafficking. The prostitute must always choose her work by herself.

And yet another thing: Raising the age for allowed sex is not to stop kids from having sex; it's to prevent pedophiles to have sex with children. A 15-yearold is probably better at saying no than a 14-yearold and is not as easy tricked by the pedophile.
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25.01.2008 - 21:50
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Written by Hyvaarin on 23.01.2008 at 04:17

I just got my hands on a copy of Repentrator, the world's first (to my knowledge) ZOMBIE PORN FLICK. Absolutely amazing, the best thing I've seen in ages.


O_O

I need to see this.

Zombies
Porn

Zombiiiiiiiiiessssss
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25.01.2008 - 22:10
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Written by Deus Ex Machina on 25.01.2008 at 21:50

Written by Hyvaarin on 23.01.2008 at 04:17

I just got my hands on a copy of Repentrator, the world's first (to my knowledge) ZOMBIE PORN FLICK. Absolutely amazing, the best thing I've seen in ages.


O_O

I need to see this.

Zombies
Porn

Zombiiiiiiiiiessssss


Agreed. Share please.
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26.01.2008 - 01:45
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It seriously is awesome. Actual quotes -

"EAT MY ZOMBIE PUSSY!!"
"FUCK ME, YOU FUCKING ZOMBIE BITCH!'

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26.01.2008 - 01:51
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Written by Hyvaarin on 26.01.2008 at 01:45

It seriously is awesome. Actual quotes -

"EAT MY ZOMBIE PUSSY!!"
"FUCK ME, YOU FUCKING ZOMBIE BITCH!'



Dude, no way! How big is this movie and do you have yahoo messenger?
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26.01.2008 - 03:05
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Hyvaarin... why are you holding out on the Zombie porn? We want some download links
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29.01.2008 - 15:41
Pole Kitten
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with teaching pole dancing i have to come across subjects like this all the time *steers conversation back on topic!*

most people assume pole dance originated from exotic dance clubs so many people still assume our classes are striptease or at least only for people who want to be strippers. i've also workdin the clubs for a few years and i know that many people also take strippers as the same as prostitutes which is a bit hard for me to understand. i'm not sure on the legalisation of prostitution but if (god forbid) a daughter of mine decided she had to do it or even wanted to i guess then i'd definately rather it was in a safe and secure premises rather than on the streets.

pornography is a bit of a different subject. soft porn and things i can't exactly disagree with having watched it myself *cough* but i've seen some really awful things too. if the people who are involved in the filming or whatever are doing it because the chose that career or out of curiosity to see what it's like and are doing it willingly then fair enough, they expect to be watched don't they and would probably be disapointed if they weren't! however i don't see how you can really tell whether somenoe has been forced into it or not as some of it is obviously to imitate fantasties such as being forced to do something which, unfortunately the way the human mind works, is an all too common fantasy. i don't see it can be policed much at all, especially with the internet so maybe the argument to ban it all is a valid one.

however the part of me that knows the sex industry knows that exotic dance clubs, pornography and other (generally) non-contact things serve a purpose for many people. married men and sometimes women use them as a release for their fantasies rather than going out and acting upon them. sex is like anything else, it produces a drug in your body and you can get addicted so there are always people who will take the obsession too far.
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29.01.2008 - 23:38
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Tage Westerlund
Written by [user id=27451] on 29.01.2008 at 15:41

with teaching pole dancing i have to come across subjects like this all the time *steers conversation back on topic!*

most people assume pole dance originated from exotic dance clubs so many people still assume our classes are striptease or at least only for people who want to be strippers. i've also workdin the clubs for a few years and i know that many people also take strippers as the same as prostitutes which is a bit hard for me to understand. i'm not sure on the legalisation of prostitution but if (god forbid) a daughter of mine decided she had to do it or even wanted to i guess then i'd definately rather it was in a safe and secure premises rather than on the streets.

pornography is a bit of a different subject. soft porn and things i can't exactly disagree with having watched it myself *cough* but i've seen some really awful things too. if the people who are involved in the filming or whatever are doing it because the chose that career or out of curiosity to see what it's like and are doing it willingly then fair enough, they expect to be watched don't they and would probably be disapointed if they weren't! however i don't see how you can really tell whether somenoe has been forced into it or not as some of it is obviously to imitate fantasties such as being forced to do something which, unfortunately the way the human mind works, is an all too common fantasy. i don't see it can be policed much at all, especially with the internet so maybe the argument to ban it all is a valid one.

however the part of me that knows the sex industry knows that exotic dance clubs, pornography and other (generally) non-contact things serve a purpose for many people. married men and sometimes women use them as a release for their fantasies rather than going out and acting upon them. sex is like anything else, it produces a drug in your body and you can get addicted so there are always people who will take the obsession too far.


Pole Dancing is not prsotitution, than we can say that normal danving in parties are prsititution tou, if coplles isnt meariged, you touch parnetr boddy than , its stipid opinium
Prostitution are whan pplo pay for sex , money, drinks and so on

Pornongarfy sucks generaly only some old 70-90ties movies are good or french and italian other are totaly crap wast of time and money to make tham
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30.01.2008 - 00:59
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I personally feel that prostitution and hardcore pornography are derivative of mental illness, at least abnormal in a social sense (who am I to say something is an illness.) It must trace back to childhood, abuse/rape, feelings of low self-worth, animosity towards women (I hate my mom so I'm gonna disrespect this chick.) I just don't see how someone can have such low self-esteem that they initiate these sort of interactions, just walk in a room with a stranger and a strange camera, start kissing, rubbing tits, *, *, *, money shot, etc. And the fake orgasms are so annoying... (we know that something THAT big in something so small is just tearing her apart inside, she's gonna be sore for days.)
Some porn is seen as female empowerment, but the majority of it is degrading. I enjoy the more humorous side of pornography, as mentioned above, zombies, clowns, big sausage pizza, the kind that you can show your friends and laugh at.
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30.01.2008 - 09:32
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Tage Westerlund
I like only thematic porn movies if one movie are about doctors tahn about doctors, if bout cops tahn about cops, if about Robin Hood tahn about him, not like ugly girl siting, Hi my name are Samanta, im from poor family , im from Kazahstan, its be my firts movie, c'mon lick my pusy hard, than after 20 min come guy and start doing it, so boring , only Marc Dorcel and Provate Gold shood get license made those movies, theres shood be burn like hitler try burr bocks
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30.01.2008 - 10:09
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people have different lines they draw i think and it's all just a matter of opinion, no right and no wrong really. i wouldn't have worked in a club that did anything more than offer dances but i know girls who'd work in onces where really close contact was encouraged, other good friends who've gone the cross over into porn films, and others who wouldn't even do the stripping for money.

some people class lap dancing as prostitution because in their eyes your selling your body and being paid for it. my argument (and i obviously had to have one) is that it wasn't prostitution because the aren't physically selling their bodies, the are selling kind of moving pictures of it. a bit like pornography but the guys who are watching it can't do anything so in my eyes it's a step better than doing actual porn films. they can't physically touch you and you don't normally do anything sexual, it's just a naked woman showing how beautiful the female form can be.

many of you will probably have a different attitude to that one though! haha
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