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Release date: 19 October 2012
Style: Extreme power metal, Progressive folk metal

Rating:

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618 want it


Disc I
01. When Time Fades Away
02. Sons Of Winter And Stars
    1 - Rain Of Stars
    2 - Surrounded By Darkness
    3 - Journey Inside A Dream
    4 - Sons Of Winter And Stars
03. Land Of Snow And Sorrow
04. Darkness And Frost
05. Time
06. [hidden track] [Mediabook & Mailorder edition bonus]

Disc II [DVD] [Mediabook bonus]
+ Time I Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios
+ Licks & Tricks
+ Sons Of Winter And Stars - Project Demonstration
+ Photo Gallery

Disc III [instrumental CD] [Mailorder edition bonus]
01. When Time Fades Away
02. Sons Of Winter And Stars
    1 - Rain Of Stars
    2 - Surrounded By Darkness
    3 - Journey Inside A Dream
    4 - Sons Of Winter And Stars
03. Land Of Snow And Sorrow
04. Darkness And Frost
05. Time

The biggest surprise of 2012
Top 20 albums of 2012: 5

Review
Lyrics (5)


Line-up
Jari Mäenpää - vocals, guitars, keyboards, bass
Teemu Mäntysaari - guitars
Kai Hahto - drums
Jukka Koskinen - bass

Guest musicians
Mathias "Warlord" Nygård - choirs
Jukka-Pekka Miettinen - choirs
Mikko "Ilmarinen" Salovaara - choirs
Markus Toivonen - choirs
Heri Joensen - choirs
Sami Hinkka - choirs
Olli Vänskä - choirs
Alpha Valtias Mustatuuli - additional growling


Additional info

Release dates:
  • October 19: Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Finland, Norway
  • October 22: North America, UK, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Denmark, Portugal, Poland (+ all other European countries not mentioned in this list)
  • October 23: Italy
  • October 24: Sweden
Formats:
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Instrumental CD of Time I, Certificate (limited to 500 copies, exclusively available at Nuclear Blast)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Signed photo card Jari Mäenpää (limited to 1000 copies, exclusively available at Amazon.de)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Wintersun logo shirt gray/black (exclusively available at Levykauppa Äx)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Shirt (black) (EMP exclusive)
  • CD Jewel Case + Shirt (Nuclear Blast USA exclusive)
  • CD Jewel Case
  • Blue vinyl (180g vinyl in gatefold including poster)
  • White vinyl (180g vinyl in gatefold including poster. Strictly limited to 200 hand-numbered copies) (exclusive at Nuclear Blast mailorder)
  • Digital download
  • iTunes digital download with Time I booklet

Staff review by
Baz Anderson

Rating:
7.5
One of the most highly anticipated albums of the last decade; Time I finally ends the eight year silence, but was the wait worth it?

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Risto - 25.10.2012 at 01:10  
Rating: 7
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.10.2012 at 00:30

A 10 means perfect, so if you have criticism on the album, any album for that matter, you cannot rate it 10 because it is NOT perfect.

None of the albums I've given a 10 are perfect, but pretty damn close (9.5+) so it gets rounded up
Marcel Hubregtse - 25.10.2012 at 01:13  
 
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 25.10.2012 at 01:09

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.10.2012 at 00:30

I love it how people here find negative points with the album and still rate it a 10. Hahahahaha

A 10 means perfect, so if you have criticism on the album, any album for that matter, you cannot rate it 10 because it is NOT perfect.

True fact. I also love it that when any staffer has a strong opinion on something they get accused of "pissing over people." People really are a moany lot. I also love it when said people say that they're the ones smiling yet are still unable to make a comment about a band with having a moan



Nowadays it seems to be a sin to have a strong opinion on music. People rather lap up everything presented to them by the hype machines of especially Nuclear Blast, Century Media and also those followers i the record industry
Marcel Hubregtse - 25.10.2012 at 01:15  
 
Written by Risto on 25.10.2012 at 01:10

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.10.2012 at 00:30

A 10 means perfect, so if you have criticism on the album, any album for that matter, you cannot rate it 10 because it is NOT perfect.

None of the albums I've given a 10 are perfect, but pretty damn close (9.5+) so it gets rounded up


So they are not perfect to you, so they shouldn't be awarded a 10

What does it say when you click on rate underneath an album? 10 = perfect
Mr. Doctor - 25.10.2012 at 01:20  
 
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.10.2012 at 01:15
What does it say when you click on rate underneath an album? 10 = perfect


Well, I personally feel if the thing you don't like is very very tiny let's say one song could have been a bit longer/shorter or some other thing that doesn't really have that much to do with the overall sound, performance, atmosphere etc... I think it's okay to stay with the perfect tag.
Void Eater - 25.10.2012 at 01:54  
  Is it true that the version that leaked on Realm of Metal a week before the release is actually not the finished version? Like the production isn't fully done on it?
3dd - 25.10.2012 at 06:54  
Rating: 5 1-No godlike guitar riffs like the first album.

2-Too much keyboard (except the intro track with Erhu, with is awesome.)

3-"Wait what, is already over? Is that's it?" (Maybe too much expectative leads to disappointment).

4-Forgettable.

Also, that chorus of "Sons Of Winter And Stars" leads to annoyance.
Keep the first album. This one is ridiculously overrated.
Sword_Chant - 25.10.2012 at 16:02  
Rating: 10
Quote:
In the end it all comes down to taste, overrated or not overrated who gives a fuck? Most bands with a large following have people who despise them so if you dont like it dont fuckin listen to it - Unless you're a staffer and just likes to piss over people because you think your opinion is more valid. Well it ain't and in the end the ones who dig it are the ones smiling.


Amen!!!
JÄY - 25.10.2012 at 21:15  
Rating: 10
Written by Void Eater on 25.10.2012 at 01:54

Is it true that the version that leaked on Realm of Metal a week before the release is actually not the finished version? Like the production isn't fully done on it?

no
Dentura - 25.10.2012 at 21:55  
Rating: 8
Written by Loathera on 24.10.2012 at 15:58

Really enjoyed this album. It pushed all the right buttons for me. Interesting how an album can sound so cheesy and yet so original.


I totally agree.
BlueMobius - 25.10.2012 at 22:23  
Rating: 8
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.10.2012 at 01:13

Nowadays it seems to be a sin to have a strong opinion on music. People rather lap up everything presented to them by the hype machines of especially Nuclear Blast, Century Media and also those followers i the record industry


Just because you don't like something and think it's something for people to "lap up" doesn't mean it's not OK for someone else to like that thing and enjoy it.
Mr. Doctor - 25.10.2012 at 22:29  
 
Written by BlueMobius on 25.10.2012 at 22:23

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.10.2012 at 01:13

Nowadays it seems to be a sin to have a strong opinion on music. People rather lap up everything presented to them by the hype machines of especially Nuclear Blast, Century Media and also those followers i the record industry

Just because you don't like something and think it's something for people to "lap up" doesn't mean it's not OK for someone else to like that thing and enjoy it.


You are right about that, but Marcel's first point is still 100% true. Most people seem to have problems with those who have no qualms having a strong opinion about music and express it even if it's in a respectful manner.
JÄY - 25.10.2012 at 22:29  
Rating: 10

Shopped me a cover made from the rear booklet cover
Mr. Doctor - 25.10.2012 at 22:30  
  Less awful than the original one, but that doesn't say much.
Marcel Hubregtse - 25.10.2012 at 22:33  
 
Written by BlueMobius on 25.10.2012 at 22:23

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.10.2012 at 01:13

Nowadays it seems to be a sin to have a strong opinion on music. People rather lap up everything presented to them by the hype machines of especially Nuclear Blast, Century Media and also those followers i the record industry


Just because you don't like something and think it's something for people to "lap up" doesn't mean it's not OK for someone else to like that thing and enjoy it.


Mr. Doctor quoted you with what I wanted to reply to you.
BlueMobius - 25.10.2012 at 22:36  
Rating: 8
Written by Mr. Doctor on 25.10.2012 at 22:29

You are right about that, but Marcel's first point is still 100% true. Most people seem to have problems with those who have no qualms having a strong opinion about music and express it even if it's in a respectful manner.

Well, I've sat and watched these forums (the album forum and the Time I review) and I've seen both sides be pretty disrespectful. It's all really pot calling the kettle black to me. Wintersun fans getting butt hurt over negative comments and staff members trolling to forums to call music "sugary" and etc. just to piss off fans - it's all the same. Marcel and several others just don't like Wintersun, and that's fine, but does everyone really need to argue back and forth? It's kind of silly, on the part of both sides, and it makes it hard to filter through all the crap to find posts from people who actually want to have a civil discussion.
Mr. Doctor - 25.10.2012 at 22:41  
 
Written by BlueMobius on 25.10.2012 at 22:36
Well, I've sat and watched these forums (the album forum and the Time I review) and I've seen both sides be pretty disrespectful. It's all really pot calling the kettle black to me. Wintersun fans getting butt hurt over negative comments and staff members trolling to forums to call music "sugary" and etc. just to piss off fans - it's all the same. Marcel and several others just don't like Wintersun, and that's fine, but does everyone really need to argue back and forth? It's kind of silly, on the part of both sides, and it makes it hard to filter through all the crap to find posts from people who actually want to have a civil discussion.


I don't want to toot my own horn but I think my (and I believe many others) reaction in the review thread are a mere answer to those who insult the reviewer or anyone who says "man I did not like this".
If someone is being disrespectful and calling me deaf just because I don't happen to like the band and go out in their way to look at my or others profiles jsut to create some kind of point in why we are deaf... Then it's pretty obvious I won't use sweet words (although I never insulted anyone... but calling someone on their shit is still fine in my book)
BlueMobius - 25.10.2012 at 22:45  
Rating: 8
Written by Mr. Doctor on 25.10.2012 at 22:41

If someone is being disrespectful and calling me deaf just because I don't happen to like the band and go out in their way to look at my or others profiles jsut to create some kind of point in why we are deaf... Then it's pretty obvious I won't use sweet words (although I never insulted anyone... but calling someone on their shit is still fine in my book)

No reason to stoop down to other users' levels though.
Mr. Doctor - 25.10.2012 at 22:48  
 
Written by BlueMobius on 25.10.2012 at 22:45
No reason to stoop down to other users' levels though.

I don't need to use their language nor insults. I just use logic which I don't think it's "sinking to their level"!


People could accuse me of being slightly arrogant though! That's valid... but not disrespectful.
LichBorne - 26.10.2012 at 10:23  
  Not bad album, but I dont think that anyone waited for 4 years for just 3 songs... I realy hope that TIME II is going to be something more. and I hope it will be released soon.
IronAngel - 26.10.2012 at 13:05  
 
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.10.2012 at 00:30

I love it how people here find negative points with the album and still rate it a 10. Hahahahaha

A 10 means perfect, so if you have criticism on the album, any album for that matter, you cannot rate it 10 because it is NOT perfect.


I don't know about that. The few albums I'd give a full score to (I think it's about 5-10) are usually not perfect. There are several perfect albums I'd only rate 4,5/5, whereas I can name several flaws in my absolutely favorite, 5-star desert island albums. In my rating system anyway, full score has to resonate on some irrational personal level. And usually that means the album is flawed, but it manages to turn those flaws into endearing strengths of personality. Being flawless isn't enough to be a desert island album, IMO.

But that may be beside the point. I agree that people overrate and don't value 10/10 (or 5/5 as I'm used to) as highly as I think they should. I don't think you even can rate an album so high after only a month of listening. You need to see how it matures. As with any relationship, you'll only know if they last after the period of infatuation.
Zaphod - 26.10.2012 at 17:54  
 
Written by IronAngel on 26.10.2012 at 13:05

I don't think you even can rate an album so high after only a month of listening. You need to see how it matures. As with any relationship, you'll only know if they last after the period of infatuation.

I completely agree with this. If I'd rate an album ten it means that I love it, but that my opinion of it doesn't change over time.
Super_Greg - 27.10.2012 at 01:32  
  Short but good! I'm diggin it.
Vasil de Shumen - 30.10.2012 at 13:33  
Rating: 6 I don't understand - what is delightful in this band. Ordinary northern melodical power ... and nothing more : 40% Blind Guardian + 40% Rhapsody + 20% symphonic metal standards = BOREDOM
Gopherhawk - 30.10.2012 at 19:44  
Rating: 10 Love the Asian influence in this record. Very hip.
ScnD361 - 31.10.2012 at 03:19  
  Sons of Winter and Stars is the song of the year!
R'Vannith - 31.10.2012 at 04:21  
Rating: 7
Written by JÄY on 25.10.2012 at 22:29



Shopped me a cover made from the rear booklet cover

Looks much better tbh.
AngelofDeth - 01.11.2012 at 08:41  
Rating: 6
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 30.10.2012 at 13:33

I don't understand - what is delightful in this band. Ordinary northern melodical power ... and nothing more : 40% Blind Guardian + 40% Rhapsody + 20% symphonic metal standards = BOREDOM

they are really not too much like BL and Rhapsody, much more similar to extreme power and folk... and anyway this album is not too great but if you listen to their debut it could hardly be called ordinary.
Vasil de Shumen - 01.11.2012 at 10:12  
Rating: 6
Written by AngelofDeth on 01.11.2012 at 08:41

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 30.10.2012 at 13:33

I don't understand - what is delightful in this band. Ordinary northern melodical power ... and nothing more : 40% Blind Guardian + 40% Rhapsody + 20% symphonic metal standards = BOREDOM

they are really not too much like BL and Rhapsody, much more similar to extreme power and folk... and anyway this album is not too great but if you listen to their debut it could hardly be called ordinary.

Their debut album is a little better, but I still say that Wintersun is very overrated in MetalStorm.
Marcel Hubregtse - 01.11.2012 at 10:18  
 
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 01.11.2012 at 10:12


Their debut album is a little better, but I still say that Wintersun is very overrated in MetalStorm.


Not only here But they seem way more overrated here than anywhere else
Vasil de Shumen - 01.11.2012 at 10:23  
Rating: 6
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.11.2012 at 10:18

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 01.11.2012 at 10:12


Their debut album is a little better, but I still say that Wintersun is very overrated in MetalStorm.


Not only here But they seem way more overrated here than anywhere else

It's true
JÄY - 05.11.2012 at 22:42  
Rating: 10 When I first heard it, i gave it a 10.... then a 9 and then an 8... then back up to 9 and I think it'll stay there. From a more oblective stand-point, I would rate it less less, but, i dunno, i just love it.....
Masa - 06.11.2012 at 08:07  
Rating: 6
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.11.2012 at 10:18

Written by Vasil de Shumen on 01.11.2012 at 10:12


Their debut album is a little better, but I still say that Wintersun is very overrated in MetalStorm.


Not only here But they seem way more overrated here than anywhere else

This album blows, but I do think that the first one was amazing regardless of them being overrated.
White Death - 06.11.2012 at 11:56  
 
Written by JÄY on 25.10.2012 at 22:29



Shopped me a cover made from the rear booklet cover


That should have been the album cover, it's definitely better
VerusVaga - 09.11.2012 at 04:04  
Rating: 10 Perfect
The Melting Snow - 09.11.2012 at 14:18  
Rating: 7 The album is good, but i've never understood all the hype surrounding Wintersun :/

I've gone back to their music a number of times after seeing the comments/ratings of people, but nothing strikes as too awesome or worth remembering...
Fritillaria - 09.11.2012 at 16:26  
  This album sounded to me so average specially the chorus parts,I don't feel there is anything special in this album the musicians just used the same old cliches of writing epic metal music nothing more yet there are some symphony parts that add up some taste and spice to the routine recipe but totally it didn't really sounded a kind of a new stuff to enjoy
Risto - 09.11.2012 at 16:36  
Rating: 7 Not sure how conscious the Devin Townsend stuff in the chorus of "Time" is but the similarity in thematics and spelling is quite striking.

Array - 09.11.2012 at 17:22  
Rating: 10
Written by Risto on 09.11.2012 at 16:36

Not sure how conscious the Devin Townsend stuff in the chorus of "Time" is but the similarity in thematics and spelling is quite striking.



Pretty unhealthy comparison in my opinion, since there's not much in common. Few same words and a bit similar voice; that's pretty much it. But yes, Jari himself has said that the axel Hetfield-Townsend-Sebastian Bach has influenced him. Bonus:

Fritillaria - 09.11.2012 at 18:47  
 
Written by Vasil de Shumen on 30.10.2012 at 13:33

I don't understand - what is delightful in this band. Ordinary northern melodical power ... and nothing more : 40% Blind Guardian + 40% Rhapsody + 20% symphonic metal standards = BOREDOM
+1
!J.O.O.E.! - 09.11.2012 at 21:39  
Rating: 5 +2
Mr. Doctor - 09.11.2012 at 21:42  
  + π
Fritillaria - 09.11.2012 at 21:55  
  Ok guys that was funny! I just meant that he said exactly what I wanted to say!
!J.O.O.E.! - 09.11.2012 at 22:18  
Rating: 5
Written by Guest on 09.11.2012 at 21:55

Ok guys that was funny! I just meant that he said exactly what I wanted to say!

That's also what I meant = P
Array - 09.11.2012 at 23:02  
Rating: 10 Blind Guardian, Rhapsody - Northern power?

Angra = southern... or what's going on?
Fritillaria - 09.11.2012 at 23:35  
 
Written by Array on 09.11.2012 at 23:02

Blind Guardian, Rhapsody - Northern power?

Angra = southern... or what's going on?
doesn't matter where they come from, the theme they use the patterns they write their music with,the motifs, you see? all those cliche that resemble the northern genre or I should say the genre which is called Northern
Fritillaria - 09.11.2012 at 23:36  
 
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 09.11.2012 at 22:18

Written by Guest on 09.11.2012 at 21:55

Ok guys that was funny! I just meant that he said exactly what I wanted to say!

That's also what I meant = P

so +1 again
!J.O.O.E.! - 09.11.2012 at 23:43  
Rating: 5
Written by Guest on 09.11.2012 at 23:36

so +1 again

I was just adding them up as we went along ^.^
MetalSpider - 10.11.2012 at 01:05  
Rating: 9 OMG GUYZ LIEK I DISAGREE!

...excuse me.
Array - 10.11.2012 at 15:18  
Rating: 10
Written by Guest on 09.11.2012 at 23:35

you see?

hardly
erat - 15.11.2012 at 14:13  
Rating: 9 Sons of Winter and Stars.. Brillant.. Epic..

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