Written by pkillerjp on 12.03.2014 at 19:41

I agree with one of your points, that being the Black album is quite good. The Black album is probably the 2nd most important metal album in history, for turning on new listeners to metal, the first being the Sabbath debut of course. As for Justice, I get all the criticisms, the songs are very long, the bass is not audible, the production is tinny, but I can't lie to myself, I have always loved listening to the album front to back. Blackened is a simply ferocious opener, One is legendary, absolutely legendary, the title track I guess is what most people point to as long and boring- I love it, Harvester of Sorrow, Shortest Straw, the completely thrashing Dyer's Eve...It's just stacked with great quality songs front to back...Plus I'll mention it again Hetfield completely owns on this album, and the drums are unbelievable, even Hammet shines throughout. I'd rephrase my prior statement, it's not really the peak before the fall, meaning Black album was bad, just a peak before their slow descent that was forewarned on the Black album and led to disaster afterwards.

edit- As for the line on not knowing how to write long songs after Cliff Burton died....the fact that millions of fans worldwide love this album and appreciate the songs on it as metal classics such as myself is enough in itself to prove that wrong. I've heard every possible "after Cliff Burton died" arrangement possible. "If he never died they wouldn't have wrote the Black album or sold out"" If he never died they would still know how to write long songs, lmao", if he never died Lars wouldn't never spoke out against Napster"'' Each one is more ridiculous than the next. The truth is if he never died, metal would still have one of it's genuine bass legends and a supposedly pretty cool guy. That's it.

Well said, Sir. I definitely agree with your points. I dub thee THE VOICE OF REASON.

"Well said, Sir. I definitely agree with your points. I dub thee THE VOICE OF REASON."

Excellent play on words and band subject -- I always thought the truly great bands could write flawed albums and still have them be masterpieces- AJFA and the Black album are fine examples, also the Sabbath debut- far from perfect from a reviewers perspective, but oh so legendary.

Written by deadone on 14.03.2014 at 03:47
As much as I think AJFA is flawed, it's still better than 99% of the crap out there.

Hence it's going from a 6 to a 7.

Does this mean you think 99% of music isn't good?

I think he means 99% of new music isn't good.

Written by Guest on 15.03.2014 at 04:33

I think he means 99% of new music isn't good.

How would one know unless one listened to everything? I probably listen to less than 1% of new music myself and most others would be struggling to find the time to really listen, in depth, to the majority of new releases.

This album bored me to death !

Written by Dr. Strawberry on 16.05.2014 at 13:14

This album bored me to death !

Man, hard to please. That's a hell of a low rating for a pretty good album.

Written by Ace Frawley on 16.05.2014 at 13:17

Man, hard to please. That's a hell of a low rating for a pretty good album.

I just read Joey Jo Jo's review. Fully agreed !
They're trying hard to be "progressive", unfortunately the skills of the guitarist and drummer are not good enough.

Written by Dr. Strawberry on 16.05.2014 at 20:38

I just read Joey Jo Jo's review. Fully agreed !
They're trying hard to be "progressive", unfortunately the skills of the guitarist and drummer are not good enough.

At least you increased your rating from 1 to 3. This album probably has some of Lars best drumming.

Written by Ace Frawley on 17.05.2014 at 06:44

Written by Dr. Strawberry on 16.05.2014 at 20:38

I just read Joey Jo Jo's review. Fully agreed !
They're trying hard to be "progressive", unfortunately the skills of the guitarist and drummer are not good enough.

At least you increased your rating from 1 to 3. This album probably has some of Lars best drumming.

And probably guitars...

IMO the only album were Lars plays realy good.
This is awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzvuDeDmCqA

Written by Jurgen33 on 04.05.2015 at 10:59

Written by Dr. Strawberry on 16.05.2014 at 13:14

This album bored me to death !

Are you seeking attention or something? What do you prefer Mr. Bored?

He still had time to write the comment before passing away. Cause of death was officially given as "...And Justice for All".

Written by Jurgen33 on 04.05.2015 at 10:59

Written by Dr. Strawberry on 16.05.2014 at 13:14

This album bored me to death !

Are you seeking attention or something? What do you prefer Mr. Bored?

Must admit I sort of agree. The album is a bit flat. Terrible production, no bass (its been said before I know). Some good tracks ruined by no highs or lows in the sound. An album crying out to be re-recorded (blasphemy to some, but necessary). James' vocals are also without any feeling.

I know that everything that came after is not deemed, elitist enough, but that sort of production would have made this a much better album.

Well can't say I'm really impressed with this album -_- anyways.

Great album, but the production and length drag it down a bit.

Written by Zaph on 04.05.2015 at 16:14

Great album, but the production and length drag it down a bit.

As does the songwriting

This album was an immense letdown when I got hold of it in 1988. Damn, were me and my friends disappointed by it.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.05.2015 at 16:16

Written by Zaph on 04.05.2015 at 16:14

Great album, but the production and length drag it down a bit.

As does the songwriting

This album was an immense letdown when I got hold of it in 1988. Damn, were me and my friends disappointed by it.

No doubt, I believe that. Everything on there is a letdown compared to the previous three albums.

Written by Guib on 04.05.2015 at 16:23



No doubt, I believe that. Everything on there is a letdown compared to the previous three albums.

Not everything. Blackened, One, and Dyer's Eve were great. But the rest of the songs... oh my fucking God. Where was the producer to tell the guys to cut down on the length of their songs?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.05.2015 at 16:28

Written by Guib on 04.05.2015 at 16:23



No doubt, I believe that. Everything on there is a letdown compared to the previous three albums.

Not everything. Blackened, One, and Dyer's Eve were great. But the rest of the songs... oh my fucking God. Where was the producer to tell the guys to cut down on the length of their songs?

To be honest I never was a fan of One... but I don't know 'bout the producer lol, maybe he thought ''oh well they probably know what they're doing''

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.05.2015 at 16:16

As does the songwriting

This album was an immense letdown when I got hold of it in 1988. Damn, were me and my friends disappointed by it.

Eh, I like it, but as you said, there's some fat that should have been cut. And maybe one or two songs that should have been left out (I'm thinking about Eye Of The Beholder and The Shortest Straw.)

One and Eye Of beholder are best songs here iMO, Harvester is like , good but not best, but I like VH1 video from this song thrash the communism away

Lack of bass aside, I actually think the production kinda fits here. It gives the album a cold and mechanical feel.

I wouldn't say this is bad an album, but it's one of the most boring thrash albums I've ever heard. Plenty of boring riffs and questionable song structures and lengths, that's pretty much what this album is. Sure I could say the obvious "bad production" here too, which isn't to me as big an issue as the songs itself are. To me "The Shortest Straw" is the only song here that doesn't go on too long and lose its interest in countless of forgettable riffs.

I WOULDN'T really recommend this album to pussies, non-pussies or anyone else either. Personally I would go and I will go listen to Heathen's Victims of Deception when I'm urging for something that sounds like this album.

I'm sorry, but I really can't get into this one as much as the first 3. Along with some songs on MOP, the songwriting just gets more boring. Also I honestly dont like the days without Cliff on bass.