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Decapitated - All Members Released From Jail Awaiting Rape Trial


There's new developments in the Decapitated case. The Spokesman Review, which has been covering the case extensively, has reported that all four members of the Polish death metal band have been released from jail as they await trial of accusations they raped a Spokane woman. The band is now set to go to trial on January 16th, 2018.

Steve Graham, defense attorney for Wacław Kiełtyka, 35, said the order was granted for his client on Monday in Spokane Superior Court. Michał Łysejko, 27, Rafał Piotrowski, 31, and Hubert Więcek, 30, were released on November 22nd.

As part of their release conditions, Judge Julie McKay ordered them to stay in Washington, but they can leave Spokane County until ordered to return. They were ordered to turn in their passport, and in the case they do return to Poland, were ordered to sign waivers of extradition, meaning Poland would be required to extradite them to Spokane.

They did not have to post a bond and instead were released on their own recognizance. Bail was previously set at $100,000.

Graham said Kiełtyka would be staying with family in Seattle. Other members have found temporary housing in the Spokane area, including staying with attorneys or other families. They are not to have any contact with each other without their attorneys present.

The four band members are accused of detaining a woman in their touring bus and raping her after playing an August 31st show in downtown Spokane.

Graham and other attorneys had originally pushed for a trial date of December 18th. The request was granted, and trial was fast-tracked, but it has since been delayed.

On Monday, Graham and other attorneys filed a motion to have them released. As part of that hearing, they attached a letter written by Dominik Tarczyński, a member of Poland's Parliament, that Graham believes helped the judge agree to release conditions.

"I am writing in support of my fellow countrymen," Tarczyński wrote and signed on December 9th. "I would like to urge you to consider release of these men on bail until their charges can be resolved." The politician told the judge he would ensure the four show up to future court dates, and that they all "take this matter very seriously."

"I have great interest in their well-being, and hope their condition is well at this time," he wrote.

The defense also attached testimony from Andy Marsh, Thy Art Is Murder's guitarist, who were playing the same show as Decapitated in Spokane. Marsh said he saw the woman in the front of the stage, the "mosh pit," where she was violently dancing.

"She was smashing her hands, arms and body against the metal barricade between the audience and the stage," according to court documents.

The woman told police she sustained bruises when she was attacked, according to court documents. She alleges she was pushing against the wall and mirror with her arms and hands while the rape occurred.

Source: spokesman.com
Band profile: Decapitated
Posted: 13.12.2017 by BloodTears


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13.12.2017 - 14:43
LeChron James
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The plot thickens
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13.12.2017 - 15:11
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13.12.2017 - 17:12
empty

Written by LeChron James on 13.12.2017 at 14:43

The plot thickens


no, its called innocent until proven guilty, not listen and believe some drunken sjw cunt
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13.12.2017 - 22:12
FYA
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This need a special MS Award of the year.
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14.12.2017 - 00:03
ManiacBlasphemer
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Written by empty on 13.12.2017 at 17:12

no, its called innocent until proven guilty, not listen and believe some drunken sjw cunt


If it is indeed the rant of a drunken SJW cunt, then that cunt should be sued by these guys after this all is over. Seriously, something like this, even if proven not guilty is gonna follow you for the first of your life at an emotional level. These SJW cunts, and all the feminazis that support them, encourage them and guide them should be hanged.
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14.12.2017 - 09:53
Kub

Written by ManiacBlasphemer on 14.12.2017 at 00:03

Written by empty on 13.12.2017 at 17:12

no, its called innocent until proven guilty, not listen and believe some drunken sjw cunt

If it is indeed the rant of a drunken SJW cunt, then that cunt should be sued by these guys after this all is over. Seriously, something like this, even if proven not guilty is gonna follow you for the first of your life at an emotional level. These SJW cunts, and all the feminazis that support them, encourage them and guide them should be hanged.


Nice victim blaming here. And how do you know what her social or political views are? Not to mention that both of you somehow pejoratively use an acronym that usually describes people who are against misogyny, xenophobia and harassment. Says more about you and your misogynistic views than these imagined SJWs really.

Guys from the band may be innocent or not, and the same goes for the girl. At this point we do not know what happened.

I'm happy they have been released, in any case. This alone might suggest that the case against them is weak so far. But with judgement it would be best to wait until the case ends.
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14.12.2017 - 10:45
ManiacBlasphemer
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Written by Kub on 14.12.2017 at 09:53

Nice victim blaming here. And how do you know what her social or political views are? Not to mention that both of you somehow pejoratively use an acronym that usually describes people who are against misogyny, xenophobia and harassment. Says more about you and your misogynistic views than these imagined SJWs really.

Guys from the band may be innocent or not, and the same goes for the girl. At this point we do not know what happened.

I'm happy they have been released, in any case. This alone might suggest that the case against them is weak so far. But with judgement it would be best to wait until the case ends.


First of all, it is unlikely she is the victim, or completely a victim. Based on testifies from witnesses, you can hardly point her as a victim. Secondly, SJW cunts expose misandry, they are as xenophobic or even worse with the people they hate (men) and love to bully and harass their victims as well, in their own way. Blaming men of rape even though they did not commit it has become sort of a sport in Western culture, due to marxist-cultural feminazi propaganda. Year by year, thanks to these abominations, life for white men in Western Europe becomes more and more like a living hell. For a man that has a stable job, kids, a family and a reputation, being blamed falsely of rape (even if you get proven not guilty) pretty much can ruin your life and career. If you have the bad luck of living in a small community where word gets around fast, even if not proven guilty it is very likely you have to move and start a new life in a new town/city. This is how bad it is. And very, very rarely the women who put the false blame get punished.

In addition, in my statement I said a big "IF". So I am still respecting the presumption of not being guilty until proven. There are so many SJW cunts in Western society that whenever I hear 'rape' I raise an eyebrow, particularly in this scenario, and particularly ever since the #metoo bullshit arose.
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14.12.2017 - 14:28
Kamil
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Good point, ManiacBlasphemer.

Just look at sexual scandal with Harvey Weinstein.
Those females risk their reputation, especially if none of their allegations will be confirmed.
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15.12.2017 - 01:14
ManiacBlasphemer
Black Knight
Written by Guest on 14.12.2017 at 14:28

Good point, ManiacBlasphemer.

Just look at sexual scandal with Harvey Weinstein.
Those females risk their reputation, especially if none of their allegations will be confirmed.


Sexual scandals at Hollywood are the norm. Even Trump was not that surprised when he heard about the Weinstein case, as he knows what people roam around the Hollywood circle. Few Hollywood celebs were not involved in some sexual harassment, either as perpetrator or 'victim', and I say 'victim' because the 'victims' accepts the harassment for career exposure and cash. In the case of Trump, a woman blamed him for touching her butt like over 40 years ago in the 70s. Geez... how can you actual prove with concrete evidence that something like this happened after 40 fucking years? And still be taken seriously. #metoo is a disease, much like feminazism and all the other socialist oriented movements. Does more harm that does good. Ok, you found a guy who was a sexual molester. Out of how many? The 2% is not the norm, it is the exception.

And they will risk it. Why didn't you bother filing a police report when it actually happen? Owh, when it happened some cash and career boosts were at stake. Now nothing is. Whoever bothers thinking that Hollywood is filled with saints definitely has no idea in what world he lives in. Hollywood is the most nepotist and corrupted realm one could ever imagine and it even puts 3rd world politicians to shame. More intrigue and drama there than in Yemen, Syria or Libya combined.
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15.12.2017 - 15:42
Milena
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Written by ManiacBlasphemer on 14.12.2017 at 10:45

Written by Kub on 14.12.2017 at 09:53

Nice victim blaming here. And how do you know what her social or political views are? Not to mention that both of you somehow pejoratively use an acronym that usually describes people who are against misogyny, xenophobia and harassment. Says more about you and your misogynistic views than these imagined SJWs really.

Guys from the band may be innocent or not, and the same goes for the girl. At this point we do not know what happened.

I'm happy they have been released, in any case. This alone might suggest that the case against them is weak so far. But with judgement it would be best to wait until the case ends.


First of all, it is unlikely she is the victim, or completely a victim. Based on testifies from witnesses, you can hardly point her as a victim. Secondly, SJW cunts expose misandry, they are as xenophobic or even worse with the people they hate (men) and love to bully and harass their victims as well, in their own way. Blaming men of rape even though they did not commit it has become sort of a sport in Western culture, due to marxist-cultural feminazi propaganda. Year by year, thanks to these abominations, life for white men in Western Europe becomes more and more like a living hell. For a man that has a stable job, kids, a family and a reputation, being blamed falsely of rape (even if you get proven not guilty) pretty much can ruin your life and career. If you have the bad luck of living in a small community where word gets around fast, even if not proven guilty it is very likely you have to move and start a new life in a new town/city. This is how bad it is. And very, very rarely the women who put the false blame get punished.

In addition, in my statement I said a big "IF". So I am still respecting the presumption of not being guilty until proven. There are so many SJW cunts in Western society that whenever I hear 'rape' I raise an eyebrow, particularly in this scenario, and particularly ever since the #metoo bullshit arose.

Please read something other than right wing meme pages on Facebook. Or go to the same Western Europe you so despise for being a marxist feminist hell (what????) and experience it first hand - why not, many men from other developing countries would envy you for the possibility, and for your Romanian EU passport. Maybe then you'll see it's a peaceful, prosperous, lawful region where due process is respected and women are taken seriously, in the same time - it's possible!
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15.12.2017 - 22:53
Doc G.
Full Grown Hoser
Oh boy, a lot to unpack here...
Written by ManiacBlasphemer on 14.12.2017 at 10:45

Year by year, thanks to these abominations, life for white men in Western Europe becomes more and more like a living hell.


Now, I know I'm not from Europe, but I am a white male living in western society. I can honestly say my life has not suffered in the slightest since these progressive social movements have started gaining steam. Methinks thou doth protest too much. Scared of something? I'm not. Then again, I'm not in the habit of sexually harassing people.

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There are so many SJW cunts in Western society...

Probably not quite what you imagine. I suggest laying off the Breitbart, InfoWars and Fox News. I've noticed they like to find the most ridiculous example of progressive culture (or, in a lot of cases, completely fabricate it), then publish it with the implication that it represents mainstream liberalism.

If you say being against systemic sexual abuse makes someone a cunt, well, that says more about you than it does about them.

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...I say 'victim' because the 'victims' accepts the harassment for career exposure and cash.

Oh, pal, you are so close to enlightenment with this line.

It exactly proves the necessity of the #metoo movement - why should tolerating sexual harassment be a necessary part of success in your field? Apply that to any other job - All your talent and hard work becomes irrelevant, you will only get that promotion or raise if you agree to watch your fat slob of a boss pull his pud. In addition, your field is really tight-knit, and rightfully telling him to "get fucked" could result in a hard time finding work. I bet you'd be a little fed up, too.

I think the reason so many men are rallying against this movement is because a huge piece of their whole way of life is shifting. Casual sexual passes at women were an acceptable way of life and were not taught otherwise. They thought it innocent and Ok. You can't be blamed for ignorance, but you can be blamed for not changing your behavior when shown your own ignorance. Its laziness, is what it is - it being a hassle changing how you approach women.

In the end, it will create a better world for all, even men. If I'm behaving in a way that a woman is uncomfortable with, I'd like to know, so I can say "apologies, that was not my intent" and adjust my behavior accordingly. Unfortunately, due to the precedent set by many men in their lives, women generally find it the safer route (physically, socially and career-wise) not to say anything.

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And still be taken seriously. #metoo is a disease, much like feminazism and all the other socialist oriented movements. Does more harm that does good. Ok, you found a guy who was a sexual molester. Out of how many? The 2% is not the norm, it is the exception.

The issue isn't necessarily the quantity (though I'm willing to bet good money the number is higher than 2%), but rather that the sexual harassers routinely get away with it. How many victims aren't believed, and how many people who could have come to the victims defense turned away.

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And they will risk it. Why didn't you bother filing a police report when it actually happen? Owh, when it happened some cash and career boosts were at stake.

See my previous responses.

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Now nothing is. Whoever bothers thinking that Hollywood is filled with saints definitely has no idea in what world he lives in. Hollywood is the most nepotist and corrupted realm one could ever imagine and it even puts 3rd world politicians to shame. More intrigue and drama there than in Yemen, Syria or Libya combined.


I don't think anyone is expecting sainthood. Its merely an epidemic of one specific, yet rampant issue thats being addressed. It being in Hollywood is merely emblematic. Sexism exists everywhere, and its becoming quite apparent how deeply rooted in our culture it is. Besides, you'd think your view of Hollywood would encourage a mindset toward progressiveness. Seeing a problem should create an impetus for change, not regression.

Back to the topic at hand:

Interesting developments. I'm still of a mind to side with the accuser here, but I'm also happy to see the guys are getting fair, due process and aren't getting completely railroaded by the justice system (not having to post a 100k bail).
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16.12.2017 - 00:12
ManiacBlasphemer
Black Knight
Written by Milena on 15.12.2017 at 15:42

Please read something other than right wing meme pages on Facebook. Or go to the same Western Europe you so despise for being a marxist feminist hell (what????) and experience it first hand - why not, many men from other developing countries would envy you for the possibility, and for your Romanian EU passport. Maybe then you'll see it's a peaceful, prosperous, lawful region where due process is respected and women are taken seriously, in the same time - it's possible!


Aside from the fact that I lived for 10 years in 3 Western European countries, what is shocking is that you are from Serbia and you are clueless about the marxist-feminist hell that Western Europe has embraced for like the last 20-30 years, but more specifically, since Mastricht. I don't give a shit about my Romanian EU passport. I lived in a Western country before Romania even joined the EU. Sure, I saw peace as well, polite people, but I also saw the downside. A society that embraces socialism and its most disgusting branches, politicians that would praise Mao and Stalin (no joke, we even had the former head of the European Commission a proclaimed maoist) and only someone that is politically ignorant cannot notice the huge impact of feminazism. Then again, being blind is not necessarily bad, but blind people when faced with such scenarios, like being blamed for rape when you did not do it are the most affected. Because even if proven not guilty, this bullshit follows you for the rest of your life. So much that you may need to move to another city.
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16.12.2017 - 00:40
ManiacBlasphemer
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Written by Doc G. on 15.12.2017 at 22:53




1. You are among the lucky ones then. My life has been affected by 'a progressive social movement' since my country had one before 1989, which continued partially until the early 2000s. A very progressive social movement, which many in the west envy, one that left a country starving and without basic life necessities. Then again Western progressives do embrace the whole idea of socialism, dismissing its results in the countries where they were applied claiming they weren't really socialist (LOL)

2. I won't lay off the channels that speak the truth. I surely won't embrace those that provide fake news, like CNN or BBC. Don't feel the need to indoctrinate myself with socialist infected news websites. You've noticed bad. They find the truth. The truth about a decadent, progressive socialist world which little by little will ruin our lives, limiting our rights for the sake of socialist ideas, like political correctness.

3. I am against sexual abuse or harassment. Just against washing your laundry in public eyes. I just find it stupid to claim something that happened 30-40 years ago (which is the case with many of the testimonies made by women within this #metoo movement) now, when legally you have no way to prove it if you are right or wrong. Some of the testimonies were outright ridiculous and only a jackass would believe them and not sue to floozy who made them. This is a calculated scheme, made by some long forgotten stars and starlets in Hollywood to be again in the spotlight. Or some other no-name women that think they can gain a moment of attention by practically accusing someone of something that they cannot prove. Because if you can prove you don't do #metoo, you go straight to the police and file a legal report. However even in a marxist-feminist infected country it doesn't work to file a legal report for something that happened 30-40 years ago, or even 5-10 year ago. Most of the guys accused are eligible and entitled to file a lawsuit for false accusations. Because if they can't be proven, they are false by default and only serves to tarnish your image.

Real sexual abuse victims file a legal report when it happens. They don't accept it, keep it for themselves for decades and then suddenly waking up to tell a story.

5. Not tolerating sexual harassment, ok. But why did you tolerate it for decades before deciding to come out with it? 'Well you know, when it happened we thought we could get some favors, as the guy was influential, he had money, he had power, he had connections and so we thought it is ok. He made us well known, he gave us attention, he presented us to his connections, he gave us a career. But now it is no longer valid, as we are no longer in the spotlight, and it is ok to let it out now, although we are not cunts/bitches, we are sexual abuse victims!' - this is something much closer to reality.

Bottom line, accepting sexual abuse and harassment for personal gain no longer makes you the victim of sexual harassment/abuse. Because you sold yourself for personal gain. Does a street harlot sues its clients after they paid her for the job? Doubt it. The same logic applies here.

And no, it won't create a better world for men at all, and for women either. False accusations of rape, sexual abuse, sexual harassment do not create a better world. They create a world that Orwell envisioned. Surely, that is not something we should be 'progressing' to. Because it is not progress, its regress. This is very similar with how the secret police functioned in former communist countries, inventing stuff on spot, disregarding any means or proving, just to get you ass in jail because you are/were 'uncomfortable' to the regime. My country had an army of such people and those people are still free, posing today as public personalities, generators of public opinion.

6. It kinda is. Most of the testimonies cannot be proven in a court. Which is where it counts. The court establishes what is legally right and legally wrong. But then again how many of these women would be willing to prove it there. Because they know they can't. But at TV and in a magazine, you don't need to prove anything. Few guys are being affected by this. You can number them on your fingers. Most of those accused, lost their jobs (which is ironic, you lose your job although you did not even get the change to prove your innocence, where did the innocent until proven guilty malarkey has gone? ; ow, forgot, it applies for feminists only, not oppressive white male pigs) while others were accused and that is that.

7. Sexism exists everywhere, I agree, but the degree varies. Hollywood being a nepotist driven realm, sexism is much more rampant there. And it is normal, since very few people get in there without connections or without compromising (like most of the women from the #metoo movement did, they compromised, they sold their body and dignity for fame and cash).
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16.12.2017 - 01:49
Doc G.
Full Grown Hoser
Moved the above discussion to the feminism thread (seemed appropriate as sexual abuse is a prevalent issue with feminists). Go here if you wish to continue this discussion.

Otherwise, lets keep it in the realm of Decapitated.
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16.12.2017 - 22:27
Kamil
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Written by Doc G. on 16.12.2017 at 01:49

Moved the above discussion to the feminism thread (seemed appropriate as sexual abuse is a prevalent issue with feminists). Go here if you wish to continue this discussion.

Otherwise, lets keep it in the realm of Decapitated.

I think, that we are still on topic. Why?
Because ManiacBlasphemer is talking about causes of current problems of the band. And these causes aren't comfortable for some MS users, from what I see
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17.12.2017 - 19:44
ManiacBlasphemer
Black Knight
Written by Guest on 16.12.2017 at 22:27

I think, that we are still on topic. Why?
Because ManiacBlasphemer is talking about causes of current problems of the band. And these causes aren't comfortable for some MS users, from what I see


Partly yes, partly not. Lets keep it in that forum topic.
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