As many people might know I have been condemned a lot because I have used a number of "political incorrect" terms to describe my own ideological foundation. I have used terms such as Satanism, nationalism, racism or racialism, Paganism or Heathendom/Heathenism and even "nazism".

Some of the terms I have used have been rather inaccurate, and I realize that people react to the different terms differently, depending on where they come from or who they are. A Scandinavian, for instance, has no good reasons to emotionally react negatively to "nazism", but I understand that a Slav has a perfectly good reason to do so. While the German "nazis" behaved exemplary in Denmark and Norway during WWII, they certainly didn't behave exemplary in Poland or the former Soviet Union. In Norway only about 0,03% of the population was killed in WWII (and the vast majority was actually killed by the Allies), while for example in Byelorussia as much as 25% of the population was killed - and had a lot to do with the Germans' incredibly lowbrow and surprisingly ignorant view on the Slavs and their culture.

You might think the German's stupid view on the Slavs is a "nazi" thing, but (unfortunately?) it seems to be more like a German view, and its roots go back at least to the middle ages - when some German crusader veterans, the Maria Knights and the Swordbrother Knights, joined forces (and formed the Teutonic Order) and went to Christianize the "primitive" heathens (Balts and Slavs) in Prussia, Memel, Kurland, Livland, Estland, Polotsk, Pskov, Ingermanland, et cetera.

However, the Norwegian "nazis" never had a negative view on the Slavs, and even the Norwegian SS-volunteers reacted negatively to the Germans' behaviour in the Soviet Union, so as a Norwegian I never really thought about the fact that it might offend Slavs when I - a Norwegian - occasionally used the term "nazism" to describe my ideological foundation. Naturally I never had the intention to offend or alienate Slavs. Personally I have a very positive view on Slavs and Slavonic culture, and I think it is sad if people think otherwise.

The reason I have been drawn to and occasionally have expressed support for "nazism" is mainly because many of the Norwegian (and German) "nazis" embraced our Pagan religion as our blood-religion and they rejected Judeo-Christianity as Jewish heresy - and they were the first to do so in a long, long time! I have also experienced that most of the people supporting me or what I stand for are so-called "nazis" - while almost everybody else has just condemned me and then boycotted me and everything I have done. What makes me different from the "nazis" are basically three things; unlike them I am not socialistic (not even on a national level), I am not materialistic and I believe in (the ancient Scandinavian!) democracy.

So, since I am not a "nazi" I began to use another term, in the late 90ies. I did it not just to avoid confusion, but also to find a term more suitable and accurate than the other terms I had used. This new term was odalism, from Norse óðal ("homeland", "allodium", "allodial law", "nobility", "noble", "inherited goods", "fatherland", "land property", "distinguished family", "distinguished", "splendid", "kin" and "the nation"). This term replaces everything positive about all the other -isms I have ever used, and in it lies Paganism, traditional nationalism, racialism and environmentalism. It is not only a more accurate but also a more inclusive term that can be used by all Europeans (and others too for that sake). Finally, and perhaps most importantly, it is not a term tainted by history.

If we have a positive relationship to our homeland, to our blood, to our race, to our religion and to our culture we will not destroy any of this with modern "civilization" (id est capitalism, materialism, Judeo-Christianity, pollution, urbanization, race mixing, Americanization, socialism, globalization, et cetera). The "nazi ghost" has scared millions of Europeans from caring about their blood and homeland for sixty years now, and it is about time we banish this ghost and again start to think and care about the things that (whether we like it or not) are important to us.

Taken from: www.burzum.org. This story is called: The Nazi Ghost

For me, this explains it well.

"Who are YOU to judge that someone must die?"

If he can judge who dies and kills a man from his judgement, then he deserves to be judged as well should he not?

"Varg isn't a racist. "

Im not too sure about that, he denies any form of racism towards European culture, but seems very derogatory towards black people.

Well, first we define Racism then.

My dictionary says:

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

So, if I think that my own race is superior to yours, I would not call myself a racist because I know it is the simple truth. I would not think it would be a prejudice, but a fact. So from my point (in other words, the racists point of view) I'm not. But you of course think that I'm not superior to you, so you call me a racist who has prejudices about your race.

So, we should not just believe him when he says he is no racist. We should explore why he thinks he's no racist.

Written by Lucas on 21.07.2006 at 00:41

Well, first we define Racism then.

My dictionary says:

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

So, if I think that my own race is superior to yours, I would not call myself a racist because I know it is the simple truth. I would not think it would be a prejudice, but a fact. So from my point (in other words, the racists point of view) I'm not. But you of course think that I'm not superior to you, so you call me a racist who has prejudices about your race.

So, we should not just believe him when he says he is no racist. We should explore why he thinks he's no racist.

I have a question....are you a fan of Burzum's music?

Yes, a huge fan of Det Som Engang Var, in particular. Do not think that I can't keep Burzum and Varg seprate from each other. I wonder, why do you ask?

Ah, there was a lot of discussing about Varg but I hadn't seen if you had posted your opinion on his music, I would have viewed previous pages to see, but the forum is slow today.

Written by Lucas on 21.07.2006 at 00:41


So, if I think that my own race is superior to yours, I would not call myself a racist because I know it is the simple truth. I would not think it would be a prejudice, but a fact. So from my point (in other words, the racists point of view) I'm not. But you of course think that I'm not superior to you, so you call me a racist who has prejudices about your race.

So, we should not just believe him when he says he is no racist. We should explore why he thinks he's no racist.

Interesting thing, really, this really never occured to my. I always figured, that if a man calls himself superior to other rases, this isn't really rasism. Shure, if you look at the definition of racism, it is, but it can also be an extreme form of arrogance.

Guys, read the damn book. Varg IS a racist.

I read this thing about Varg and racism a whle ago here: http://www.vinlandwinds.com/graveland/vargsmel.htm#real. A quote from this source:

"There are many so called anti-racists who actively fight against "racism" but what is actually what they fight against, and doesn't this make them racist themselves? They plead against intolerance and prejudice. Yes I am totally intolerant of foreign cultured people, they have nothing to do here."

The keyword in that quote is 'cultured', so Varg doesn't seem to like other cultures. Does this mean it's more than racism and has another term or that it is something else that encompasses racism? Of course I have no idea how old this source is and whether or not Varg has changed his opinions since as he always does. Still, I have read racist comments elsewhere in Varg's writtings.

http://www.rusmetal.ru/vae_solis/vargsmal.html

their first release was great...unfortunately Varg Vikernes wouldn't stay on the black metal path once he went to prison, but their first album is a reminder of how brilliant Burzum was...hope they go back to their early sound once Varg is released from prison this year...

Alright, back to Burzum. My favorite albums are 'Det Som Engang Var' and 'Hvis Lyset Tar Oss.' I was never as big a fan of 'Filosofem' as everyone else, not sure why. I just didn't like the vocals or atmosphere as much. Still a good album though.

"Alright, back to Burzum. My favorite albums are 'Det Som Engang Var' and 'Hvis Lyset Tar Oss.' I was never as big a fan of 'Filosofem' as everyone else, not sure why. I just didn't like the vocals or atmosphere as much. Still a good album though. "

I would find Filosofem perfect if it wasnt for "Rumdung..."

Ok, we quite about varg then?

I'll see a thread about him if someone still has the urge to discuss.

Burzum, a great band. Det Som Engang Var, his best release. He's got some real good lyrics too.

She cloaks the world in darkness. (Dunkelheit)

That line is just.. breathtaking.

Written by [user id=15041] on 21.07.2006 at 08:02

their first release was great...unfortunately Varg Vikernes wouldn't stay on the black metal path once he went to prison, but their first album is a reminder of how brilliant Burzum was...hope they go back to their early sound once Varg is released from prison this year...

He could not play black metal in prison, he wasn't allowed to use a guitar, or even muzic creating softvares on his PC, cuz they didn't allow the use of a CD reader, so he wasn't able to make anything different then ambient.

Written by Lucas on 21.07.2006 at 12:06

Ok, we quite about varg then?

I'll see a thread about him if someone still has the urge to discuss.

Burzum, a great band. Det Som Engang Var, his best release. He's got some real good lyrics too.

She cloaks the world in darkness. (Dunkelheit)

That line is just.. breathtaking.

It is "She cloaks the world in impenetrable darkness", my dear Nervel . My fav albums is Hvis Lyset Tar Oss and Filosofem. Just amazing albums.

Awsome!

You're right. Makes it even better!

I love those lyrics. I have them written all over my pencil case

I have them on my walls in red paint

Written by [user id=14603] on 21.07.2006 at 02:39

Guys, read the damn book. Varg IS a racist.

So what? What's wrong in racism?

I'm not saying what's wrong or not. Just clarifying what are Varg's beliefs.

Some Burzum lyrics are some of my absolute favourite lyrics. Indeed the 'Dunkelheit' lyrics are so stunning. I like the way it ends on "Suddenly....life has new meaning".

Man Burzum ... So good!
Despite all the crap ! Burzum it's awesome Norweigian shit ...
No doubt at all ...
I got their
1993 Det Som Engang Var
1993 Aske [EP] and Filosofem ... great albums!

Burzum crazy shit !
...


Faan !

yeah varg can write some interesting lyrics..

In fact i don't care about lyrics very much but i like his musical ideas.

"Some Burzum lyrics are some of my absolute favourite lyrics. Indeed the 'Dunkelheit' lyrics are so stunning. I like the way it ends on "Suddenly....life has new meaning". "

I agree, its almost like you can reach enlightenment through that song.

Finally got around to getting some of Burzum, and oh my this is what ive been missing out on!?! Damn, i wish i had checked the band out earlier! Its absolutly amazing and i specially love the track 'Dunkelheit' the lyrics - as alot have already mentioned already - are stunning and the music is brilliant also.

Definatly be ordering some of their material in where i go in and make my music order .

@Ba'al Peor: You seem to know a fare bit about the band, what album would you recommend? .. Or open to anyone

Hviss Lyset Tar Hoss is his most loved album because it's the most "atmospheric".

Burzum/Aske is the kvlt debut tought, and it's more straight bm.

Order any one of these depending on your tastes. Tought if you enjoyed Dunkelheit, the album from which it is taken is amazing ( Filosofem ).

Written by [user id=14603] on 01.08.2006 at 17:12

Hviss Lyset Tar Hoss is his most loved album because it's the most "atmospheric".

It's the personal fav of Varg to, and I can understand him: it's just amazing. These long songs are truly masterpieces.

Det som Engang Var , Filosofem and Hvis Lyset Tar Oss is just awesome albums all of them. My personal fav though is Hvis Lyset Tar Oss. I love the song Det Som Engang Var