Written by Guest on 20.10.2009 at 22:13

Great review? 'The music is boring', 'The great catchy melodies that used to fill their past records are gone'.... not really informed, it's so evident on the record it's not even funny.

What's the problem with the production if the sound compliments their music? It doesn't have to sound more 'rough'... that's just a matter of opinion, also that makes this album a little different from the other three.

You either like Scar Symmetry (because of Älvestam) or you don't... the music hasn't changed much at all, it's just better produced and now there is two vocalists instead of one.

Written by Guest on 20.10.2009 at 22:13

'Great review, I absolutely agree with every single point made. Especially on the point of it being over produced. This one is so slick sounding that all dynamics and possible rough edges have gone. '

Great review? 'The music is boring', 'The great catchy melodies that used to fill their past records are gone'.... not really informed, the melodies are so evident on this record it's not even funny.

What's the problem with slick production if the sound compliments their music? Use the top notch equipment and sound modules - why not?! It doesn't have to sound more 'rough around the edges'... that's just a matter of opinion and obviously the sound you like.

You either like Scar Symmetry or you don't... the music hasn't changed much at all, it's just better produced and now there are two vocalists instead of one - and only the vocals sections have changed... if you had Älvestam singing on this album I'm sure everyone's opinion would be different.

Holographic Universe and Pitch Black Progress was different to their first record, but their was no objections then...

Written by Lucas on 20.10.2009 at 22:18

Written by Guest on 20.10.2009 at 22:13

Great review? 'The music is boring', 'The great catchy melodies that used to fill their past records are gone'.... not really informed, it's so evident on the record it's not even funny.

What's the problem with the production if the sound compliments their music? It doesn't have to sound more 'rough'... that's just a matter of opinion, also that makes this album a little different from the other three.

You either like Scar Symmetry (because of Älvestam) or you don't... the music hasn't changed much at all, it's just better produced and now there is two vocalists instead of one.

And if you don't like Scar Symmetry (or just dont like this album), why not write a review about it?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.10.2009 at 22:23


Imo the so-caleld better production (in fact the slicker production) doesn't compliment the music at all. It takes away the little bite the music used to have. So in this case the production is actually worse. The music has tchanged quite a bit now it is almost pure pop due to the slick production and also the music itself. This suffers from the same disase 95% of Euro Power Metal bands suffer from.

Written by Guest on 20.10.2009 at 23:09

My review got deleted because it was post to early... nice - what's the point in re-posting it in 3 months. How come if one registers you're still seen as a 'guest'?

Written by Baz Anderson on 20.10.2009 at 23:15

Are you two related or something?
Both apparently from South Africa, similar avatars...

Written by Lucas on 20.10.2009 at 23:14

Written by Guest on 20.10.2009 at 23:09

My review got deleted because it was post to early... nice - what's the point in re-posting it in 3 months. How come if one registers you're still seen as a 'guest'?

There's a difference between guests on the website and guest reviewers. The difference is that when you register on the website, you're a user. With all the rights and duties that an user has. Becoming a reviewer is an entirely different thing, though. You have to be part of the Staff (or Elite) to be an official reviewer. When you're an official reviewer you also work with labels etc. You can only become an official reviewer if you've delivered a lot of consistantly good reviews, and we have room for you in the team. We'll ask you in that case.

We have the three months waiting period to give the official reviewers (me, for example) the time to review it first. It's a basic rule. Your review was accepted by mistake, it has nothing to do with the fact a different-minded review of a Staff member was published.

Written by Guest on 20.10.2009 at 23:00

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.10.2009 at 22:23


Imo the so-caleld better production (in fact the slicker production) doesn't compliment the music at all. It takes away the little bite the music used to have. So in this case the production is actually worse. The music has tchanged quite a bit now it is almost pure pop due to the slick production and also the music itself. This suffers from the same disase 95% of Euro Power Metal bands suffer from.

To be honest Marcel, you have very little good to say about anything that doesnt depress the listener into the ground - so why on EARTH would you even comment on Scar Symmetry? We all know you will hang on the slightest thing to slag a band off, even when it comes down to production, especially if its powermetal or melodic death. This isnt 1990 anymore, so all the bands from the past with the productions which had "bite" probably sounded that way because they had no other option...today we have another name for those productions ... its called "shitty".

I swear if it was up to you everything on this forum would be Doom Metal...because obviously everything else is over-produced, pop or gay. Did it ever occur to you that not everyone in the metal world wants music to sound as if it was recorded 20 years go? Sheesh man....

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.10.2009 at 23:35

Written by Guest on 20.10.2009 at 23:00

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.10.2009 at 22:23


Imo the so-caleld better production (in fact the slicker production) doesn't compliment the music at all. It takes away the little bite the music used to have. So in this case the production is actually worse. The music has tchanged quite a bit now it is almost pure pop due to the slick production and also the music itself. This suffers from the same disase 95% of Euro Power Metal bands suffer from.

To be honest Marcel, you have very little good to say about anything that doesnt depress the listener into the ground - so why on EARTH would you even comment on Scar Symmetry? We all know you will hang on the slightest thing to slag a band off, even when it comes down to production, especially if its powermetal or melodic death. This isnt 1990 anymore, so all the bands from the past with the productions which had "bite" probably sounded that way because they had no other option...today we have another name for those productions ... its called "shitty".

I swear if it was up to you everything on this forum would be Doom Metal...because obviously everything else is over-produced, pop or gay. Did it ever occur to you that not everyone in the metal world wants music to sound as if it was recorded 20 years go? Sheesh man....

Slagging off Euro Power Metal, yes, in 99% of the cases. Slagging off Melodic Death? When it comes to true melodic death (so actual death metal that is melodic) no. Btw, I like the the older stuff Scar Symmetry released. And sorry to say but this isn't melodic death metal at all, there is nto a hint of death metal in its sound. Gothenburg this is, not melodic death metal. But then again most people into metal think Arch Enemy is also melodic death metal.
And no not everything has sound like ti was recorded 20 years ago. Modern day Dark Tranquillity sounds modern but there the production complements the music. And I love both odl Dark Tranquillity when they were still melodic death metal but also modern day Gothenburg DT. I also LOVE both new and old In Flames, same goes for Soilwork fyi.

Written by Thanntos on 21.10.2009 at 00:39

Sorry Marcel but everything past Clayman by In Flames blows massively. A couple decent songs on Come Clarity but otherwise, In Flames was done for me after Clayman.

Written by BitterCOld on 20.10.2009 at 22:59

Dane, you emo jesus freak, you're just pissed because the Christian is out of the band.

Written by Guest on 20.10.2009 at 23:00

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.10.2009 at 22:23


To be honest Marcel, you have very little good to say about anything that doesnt depress the listener into the ground - so why on EARTH would you even comment on Scar Symmetry? We all know you will hang on the slightest thing to slag a band off, even when it comes down to production, especially if its powermetal or melodic death. This isnt 1990 anymore, so all the bands from the past with the productions which had "bite" probably sounded that way because they had no other option...today we have another name for those productions ... its called "shitty".

I swear if it was up to you everything on this forum would be Doom Metal...because obviously everything else is over-produced, pop or gay. Did it ever occur to you that not everyone in the metal world wants music to sound as if it was recorded 20 years go? Sheesh man....

Flucking EPIC!!

I'm pretty new to this website but I noticed that about Marcel too - "if it ain't a funeral portrait then I don't like it!"

Written by tea[m]ster on 21.10.2009 at 12:02

Written by Guest on 20.10.2009 at 23:00

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.10.2009 at 22:23


To be honest Marcel, you have very little good to say about anything that doesnt depress the listener into the ground - so why on EARTH would you even comment on Scar Symmetry? We all know you will hang on the slightest thing to slag a band off, even when it comes down to production, especially if its powermetal or melodic death. This isnt 1990 anymore, so all the bands from the past with the productions which had "bite" probably sounded that way because they had no other option...today we have another name for those productions ... its called "shitty".

I swear if it was up to you everything on this forum would be Doom Metal...because obviously everything else is over-produced, pop or gay. Did it ever occur to you that not everyone in the metal world wants music to sound as if it was recorded 20 years go? Sheesh man....

Flucking EPIC!!

I'm pretty new to this website but I noticed that about Marcel too - "if it ain't a funeral portrait then I don't like it!"

If you people read the fourum more closely you will all see that I only dislike Euroe Flower Power Metal, female fronted metal (which some call gothic metal) and true gothic metal PLus of course all opverporduced metal which sounds like pop.