Hermann Langke Brahmastra Corps
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Thanks for posting this review, brother! I am from India and it's heartening to see Indian culture and lore being incorporated into Metal!
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3rdWorld China was a neat
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The only reason I got interested in this band initially is because Tomas Corn of Lykathea Aflame plays here since I thought none of the members are active now in any project. WIll have to check this out to see how good this is.
And I think the Goddess in the artwork is Kali, I don't see Shiva there unless you refer to the one she is seen atop.
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Cynic Metalhead Paisa Vich Nasha
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Lord Shiva is the second time I have seen using in artwork or any other image used for selling records i suppose. The first time Shiva used on web is in Family guy where Jesus mocking Shiva on Christmas eve.
Terrific album. I heard couple of tracks and sounds amazing. As far brushing off knowledge on Sanskrit is concerned, tracks 1,6,7,8 has Sanskrit words. Rest is plain simple Hindi.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress ElitePosts: 5941 |
Written by 3rdWorld on 23.11.2013 at 08:54
And I think the Goddess in the artwork is Kali, I don't see Shiva there unless you refer to the one she is seen atop.
Pretty sure it's Shiva. The circle with the flames on it is behind him, which you usually see in his Nataraja form. There's also his trident and the fact that there are cobras dangling on his arms. Snakes are symbolic of kundalini, the "base serpent" energy that Hinduism teaches lies at the base of the spine to be activated during meditation, and Shiva is usually referred to as the "Lord Of Yoga."
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Written by Cynic Metalhead on 23.11.2013 at 09:42
Lord Shiva is the second time I have seen using in artwork or any other image used for selling records i suppose. The first time Shiva used on web is in Family guy where Jesus mocking Shiva on Christmas eve.
Terrific album. I heard couple of tracks and sounds amazing. As far brushing off knowledge on Sanskrit is concerned, tracks 1,6,7,8 has Sanskrit words. Rest is plain simple Hindi.
The Sanskrit thing was more a joke than anything else, but thanks for the tip, interesting to know. And with Family Guy, that was Vishnu, not Shiva.
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Cynic Metalhead Paisa Vich Nasha
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Oh yeah its Vishnu not Shiva. Got confused.
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hiron
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People, please don't get so confused... as 3rdWorld has already stated, the artwork clearly depicts Kali sitting atop Shiva. Kali and Shiva are very closely related. And also, please have a closer look at the femininity depicted in the picture. You can always check out Wikipedia for more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18276 |
I would definitely not put Melechesh in the same level as Nile. As Craig pointed out once: Nile are those nerds that love that eastern stuff and force those tunes into their death metal. Melechesh ARE the eastern stuff and put metal into it, not the other way around. I think they do have a pretty good balance just like this album (Rudra isn't so far behind either). Melechesh might not use unusual instruments all the time (they do it every now and then though) but pretty much all their riffs and many drum patterns are played in the appropriate scales of the region. So using special vocals and instruments is not the only way to achieve that particular sound.
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3rdWorld China was a neat
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 23.11.2013 at 10:07
Written by 3rdWorld on 23.11.2013 at 08:54
And I think the Goddess in the artwork is Kali, I don't see Shiva there unless you refer to the one she is seen atop.
Pretty sure it's Shiva. The circle with the flames on it is behind him, which you usually see in his Nataraja form. There's also his trident and the fact that there are cobras dangling on his arms. Snakes are symbolic of kundalini, the "base serpent" energy that Hinduism teaches lies at the base of the spine to be activated during meditation, and Shiva is usually referred to as the "Lord Of Yoga."
If its Shiva in Nataraja form it sure wouldn't (or maybe shouldn't) be a posture of him sitting. Also the Garland of skulls, a sword, a trident, blood in one hand (classically a bowl) and the naked form (see the female boobs, unless its a female deptiction of Shiva) suggest Kali more. Notice the absence of the serpent around the neck which Shiva will have even though I accept that Shiva has in some rare forms wears a garland of skulls instead. This artwork though is more in resemblance of Kali than Shiva tbh.
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3rdWorld China was a neat
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Written by hiron on 23.11.2013 at 11:13
People, please don't get so confused... as 3rdWorld has already stated, the artwork clearly depicts Kali sitting atop Shiva. Kali and Shiva are very closely related. And also, please have a closer look at the femininity depicted in the picture. You can always check out Wikipedia for more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali
Indeed it is Kali. And the the word काली (Pronounced "Kali" in Hindi script, fyi Apo) present in the title of the tracks 1 & 4 should give more proof for that. Moreover, Kali is the more badass among Hindu divinities , perfect for death or divine destruction themes even more so than Shiva himself, the lord of destruction.
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Written by 3rdWorld on 23.11.2013 at 14:14
Indeed it is Kali. And the the word काली (Pronounced "Kali" in Hindi script, fyi Apo) present in the title of the tracks 1 & 4 should give more proof for that. Moreover, Kali is the more badass among Hindu divinities , perfect for death or divine destruction themes even more so than Shiva himself, the lord of destruction.
Alright, looks like I stand corrected
Really wish I could fix that in the review now though... anyway, indeed, Kali is pretty interesting. I recall a myth about how she was originally Parvati, Shiva's wife. Then one day a demon, Raktajira, who had been granted a wish where every drop of his blood spilled would create a thousand clones of him, starting terrorizing Parvati's followers. Rage turned her into Kali, she basically went on a killing spree until every demon had been destroyed, and in the end it was Shiva himself who finally had to calm her down and turn her back into Parvati. Pretty metal.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 23.11.2013 at 12:23
I would definitely not put Melechesh in the same level as Nile. As Craig pointed out once: Nile are those nerds that love that eastern stuff and force those tunes into their death metal. Melechesh ARE the eastern stuff and put metal into it, not the other way around. I think they do have a pretty good balance just like this album (Rudra isn't so far behind either). Melechesh might not use unusual instruments all the time (they do it every now and then though) but pretty much all their riffs and many drum patterns are played in the appropriate scales of the region. So using special vocals and instruments is not the only way to achieve that particular sound.
Wasn't really thinking about from what musical background those bands originally came. All I meant with that sentence was to use some examples of ones who've fused the two styles, no more to it really.
And I agree, folk-style instruments and vocals aren't the only way to achieve the sound, but they're certainly the most effective, I think at least
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 23.11.2013 at 14:30
I recall a myth about how she was originally Parvati, Shiva's wife. Then one day a demon, Raktajira, who had been granted a wish where every drop of his blood spilled would create a thousand clones of him, starting terrorizing Parvati's followers. Rage turned her into Kali, she basically went on a killing spree until every demon had been destroyed, and in the end it was Shiva himself who finally had to calm her down and turn her back into Parvati.
Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
Btw, brilliant review and this atleast made me more interesting than when Joe said that their sound resembles bits of Fen, Drudkh, Meads etc.
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Written by 3rdWorld on 23.11.2013 at 14:46
This at least made me more interesting than when Joe said that their sound resembles bits of Fen, Drudkh, Meads etc.
Well he does have a point there. As I mentioned in the review, these guys have a way of incorporating certain song structures that remind you of some of these other bands, while at the same time sounding nothing like them at all and still retaining a distinctly Cult Of Fire identity. That's really what makes this such an excellent release, in my opinion. There's a sense that they've been able to learn from their contemporaries without becoming outright clones of them.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18276 |
Written by Auntie Sahar on 23.11.2013 at 14:34 And I agree, folk-style instruments and vocals aren't the only way to achieve the sound, but they're certainly the most effective, I think at least
I disgaree on that. I think it's far more effective to use scales that belong to that music than forcing folk instruments with a crowbar in riffs that are otherwise, metal to the core.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 23.11.2013 at 16:11
I think it's far more effective to use scales that belong to that music than forcing folk instruments with a crowbar in riffs that are otherwise, metal to the core.
Well that's where being a good composer comes in, and knowing how to structure the folk instruments around the metal so as not to seem odd, and to convey a sort of natural flow, which is exactly what's going on with this album. The same can be said for bands like Negura Bunget, or A Forest Of Stars. I also think if you're a particularly great songwriter, you eventually learn how to go back and forth with it, ya know? Folk instruments can certainly be played in a way that suggests a "metal" tone, and vice versa.
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Woah, who would have thought this would have czech lyrics.
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Written by OtherDoor on 23.11.2013 at 16:56
Woah, who would have thought this would have czech lyrics.
How do you figure that?
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 23.11.2013 at 17:27
Written by OtherDoor on 23.11.2013 at 16:56
Woah, who would have thought this would have czech lyrics.
How do you figure that?
I speak the language.
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24.11.2013 - 06:32Rating: 9
Written by OtherDoor on 23.11.2013 at 18:00
Written by Auntie Sahar on 23.11.2013 at 17:27
Written by OtherDoor on 23.11.2013 at 16:56
Woah, who would have thought this would have czech lyrics.
How do you figure that?
I speak the language.
There is also the fact that Cult of Fire is from the Czech Republic, so that probably has something to do with it.
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I'm Indian, so I guess a translation of the song titles might help:
Album: Death's Ascetic Contemplation
Song Titles:
01. संहार रक्त काली - Blood Destruction Kali
02. अस्तित्व की चिता पर - On The Corpse Of Existence
03. शव साधना - Corpse Worship
04. काली मां - Kali Maa (Mother Kali)
05. मृत्यु ही सत्य है - Death Is The Only Truth
06. मृत्यु का वीभत्स नृत्य - The Morbid Dance Of Death
07. खण्ड मण्ड योग - Scrap Ornament Meditation
08. दिव्य प्रेम की ज्वाला से दग्ध - Burnt In The Flames Of Divine Love
Cheers !!!
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Written by ScreamingSteelUS on 24.11.2013 at 06:32
There is also the fact that Cult of Fire is from the Czech Republic, so that probably has something to do with it.
Non-English speaking bands don't always write in their native languages
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I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle. “Come unto me” is a foolish word: for it is I that go.
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Written by Destructo on 24.11.2013 at 06:47
I'm Indian, so I guess a translation of the song titles might help:
Album: Death's Ascetic Contemplation
Song Titles:
01. संहार रक्त काली - Blood Destruction Kali
02. अस्तित्व की चिता पर - On The Corpse Of Existence
03. शव साधना - Corpse Worship
04. काली मां - Kali Maa (Mother Kali)
05. मृत्यु ही सत्य है - Death Is The Only Truth
06. मृत्यु का वीभत्स नृत्य - The Morbid Dance Of Death
07. खण्ड मण्ड योग - Scrap Ornament Meditation
08. दिव्य प्रेम की ज्वाला से दग्ध - Burnt In The Flames Of Divine Love
Cheers !!!
Thanks for the info man, really informative! You can always add that as a note on the page for this album, if you'd like
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 25.11.2013 at 20:59 Non-English speaking bands don't always write in their native languages
I think Finntroll is a good example of this.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 26.11.2013 at 00:19
I think Finntroll is a good example of this.
Finntroll aren't a good example of anything
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Written by Guest on 26.11.2013 at 00:49 Finntroll aren't a good example of anything
I was only referring to the Swedish-singing Finns aspect, but ya... aside from that they offer very little.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress ElitePosts: 5941 |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 26.11.2013 at 00:19
Written by Auntie Sahar on 25.11.2013 at 20:59 Non-English speaking bands don't always write in their native languages
I think Finntroll is a good example of this.
I was thinking more along the lines of Urfaust, actually. From the Netherlands, German lyrics.
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I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle. “Come unto me” is a foolish word: for it is I that go.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by Auntie Sahar on 26.11.2013 at 01:14 I was thinking more along the lines of Urfaust, actually. From the Netherlands, German lyrics.
We'll just pretend Finntroll was never mentioned and go with this as the prime example.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 26.11.2013 at 00:54
Written by Guest on 26.11.2013 at 00:49 Finntroll aren't a good example of anything
I was only referring to the Swedish-singing Finns aspect, but ya... aside from that they offer very little.
Your example isn't that good anyways since the previous vocalists (who is the one who stills writes the lyrics) is from a part of Findland where swedish is actually the official language.
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