Rating abuse



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Original post

Posted by Groby94, 11.10.2014 - 19:08
I just noticed this happening today. I checked all of the top albums this year and most of their ratings suddenly went down, and that's because of several 1 ratings appeared out of nowhere during the night.

Something should be done about this, not because of stupid reasons as "my favorite band isn't 1st place omg". The rating system should reflect the real overall opinion of the users on the album (duh), and it should help other users decide whether they would want to give the album a shot or not (among other factors, of course).
22.05.2018 - 22:15
ShadowGlanzmann
Guys, there's voting abuse on every single top 10 album of 2018. Almost 12 to 25 users per album, low rating every single album that isn't its from its favourite band. This ends up lowering the average score of any album, because a 1 rating is more incisive that a 10 rating. Just saying. Btw, evaluating with decimals should be a thing, it makes it more easier.
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22.05.2018 - 22:22
ShadowGlanzmann
Look at this example

Slugdge - Esoteric Malacology 10
Between The Buried And Me - Automata I 9
TesseracT - Sonder 9
Primordial - Exile Amongst The Ruins 6
Hypno5e - Alba - Les Ombres Errantes 6
Amorphis - Queen Of Time 4

This is a person who has 8.5 average rating in 200 albums. Evaluated 2 favorite bands as 10 and 9, then other goods good albums as 6 and 4.
Worse than the example above. This guy has 20 evaluations, Alkaloid is the only favourite band on the profile. Look at the voting from this year:

Alkaloid - Liquid Anatomy 10
Amorphis - Queen Of Time 4
Slugdge - Esoteric Malacology 3
At The Gates - To Drink From The Night Itself 2

I think I made a point here.
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20.06.2018 - 10:02
nikarg
Old Nick
Just because someone doesn't consider the new Amorphis as the best album ever made and gives it a 4 doesn't mean it's vote abuse.

I'll give you an example of rating abuse: this user registered on June 1st, voted 21 albums with 1 and 5 albums with 10 and has not been on the site since. And he/she probably never will be again.
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18.08.2018 - 01:17
D.T. Metal
Admin
Written by nikarg on 20.06.2018 at 10:02

I'll give you an example of rating abuse: this user registered on June 1st, voted 21 albums with 1 and 5 albums with 10 and has not been on the site since. And he/she probably never will be again.

and all the votes have been deleted
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22.08.2018 - 23:28
anathema_1977
Written by D.T. Metal on 18.08.2018 at 01:17

Written by nikarg on 20.06.2018 at 10:02

I'll give you an example of rating abuse: this user registered on June 1st, voted 21 albums with 1 and 5 albums with 10 and has not been on the site since. And he/she probably never will be again.

and all the votes have been deleted


Thanks for all the effort you countinously put in this tedious elimination of votes, by the way.
I think this is worth mentioning from time to time.

A proof of the quality of your work is the following observation:
Just consider how immensely stable the official Top 200 albums ranking has been over the last couple of years (well, let alone the usual shifts between RTL, MOP and RIP as to who wears the crown). This is unbelievable, I think.
If you were not eliminating votes such as the ones described above all the time the Top 200 would not be that stable over such a long period of time.
Does that make sense...?
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24.08.2018 - 23:00
D.T. Metal
Admin
Written by anathema_1977 on 22.08.2018 at 23:28

Thanks for all the effort you countinously put in this tedious elimination of votes, by the way.
I think this is worth mentioning from time to time.

A proof of the quality of your work is the following observation:
Just consider how immensely stable the official Top 200 albums ranking has been over the last couple of years (well, let alone the usual shifts between RTL, MOP and RIP as to who wears the crown). This is unbelievable, I think.
If you were not eliminating votes such as the ones described above all the time the Top 200 would not be that stable over such a long period of time.
Does that make sense...?

Thanks or danke schön
It's a shitty job, but someone got to do it
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24.08.2018 - 23:06
D.T. Metal
Admin
And on this note y'all... please keep posting those rating abusers.

If I catch a blatant one I usually take care of it right away, but you guys and gals are truly the backbone of finding those who abuse the rating system to boost particular albums. Thank you from the entire Staff
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25.09.2018 - 17:55
Nihil Aeternum
Typical account to vote albums additionally up and down, just used for voting (163 times 10, 44 times 1, 4 times in between to make it less obvious): http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=131981
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27.09.2018 - 00:10
D.T. Metal
Admin
Written by Nihil Aeternum on 25.09.2018 at 17:55

Typical account to vote albums additionally up and down, just used for voting (163 times 10, 44 times 1, 4 times in between to make it less obvious): http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=131981

hard to judge; I agree with some of the votes he/she got a warning in 2013 already. I gave him/her a 90day voting time-out and will keep an eye on his profile after that. If he/she votes again then all the votes will be deleted.
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05.10.2018 - 23:46
anathema_1977
Written by D.T. Metal on 27.09.2018 at 00:10

I agree with some of the votes

I am surprised you do. I dont agree on a single one of those votes there (which is primarily due to the fact that there are almost only 10s and 1s, and I give only very few 10s and 1s).
Oh actually there is one vote I agree on, it is St. Anger -- but thats an easy one
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08.10.2018 - 20:49
D.T. Metal
Admin
Written by anathema_1977 on 05.10.2018 at 23:46

Written by D.T. Metal on 27.09.2018 at 00:10

I agree with some of the votes

I am surprised you do. I dont agree on a single one of those votes there (which is primarily due to the fact that there are almost only 10s and 1s, and I give only very few 10s and 1s).
Oh actually there is one vote I agree on, it is St. Anger -- but thats an easy one

Fair. In general i don't think ANY or very, very few albums deserve a 10 or 1 rating. But going on the premise that 10 is good and 1 is bad I can get behind some of those votes And in regards of St. Anger... nobody wants to open that can of worms
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23.10.2018 - 11:30
Risto
Wandering Midget
This guy: http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=191231

(Also a troll account in general)
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03.11.2018 - 20:16
Risto
Wandering Midget
Http://metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=189312
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