Piro
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Good review, I agree it is quite a great album.
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It's the best album they've done with the Angela.
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Haven't heard the album yet and had some doubt about it...but after reading this review it's definiatly on my must have list
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BloodTears ANA-thema ElitePosts: 11835 |
13.10.2007 - 11:51Rating: 8
I actually disagree with some things you wrote, I don't think it deserves such a high rating, I don't think it is one of the best albums of the year (hardly) although I agree that "the day you died" is one of the best songs on this album. Alongside with the instrumental "Intermezzo Liberté" it is my favourite song.
Well, the first time I heard this album I was disappointed, I even wrote something on their thread being silly and dramatic over it lol Anyhow, I have listened to it a lot lately and I have learned to enjoy it more but it doesnt make my heart sing. I noticed they added a few things just listen to "I will live again".
I still think that the lyrics are repetitive and especially if you have their other albums you'll notice that. And like you said the formula is the same, it seems to be working for them but it will be tiring after a while. Its tiring me.
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I disagree immensely with this review. To quote myself:
"This album is utterly mediocre. It never, at any point, steps over into the boundaries of good or bad, just plain... plain. The reason for this is that the album is completely saccahrine sweet. Just a bunch of guitar wankery built around unimaginative and unoriginal songs. Not one of the songs stands out on this album, they all follow the same formula pretty much and rarely deviate from what is Trivium like obviousness.
When I got hold of this I listened to it through about 3 times thinking it was actually ok, but that was a month ago and I've not gone back to it since. When I tried I just had the feeling that I'd gotten everything this album has to offer in those 3 listens.
You can't fault Amott's geetar skills, just his creation of the riffs. He's still one of my favourite guitar players but I'm dissapointed at how little effort he put into this album. I guess it's a small mercy that most (though not all) of Gossow's horrid vocal effects have gone. She still doesn't sound completely natural though.
A stadium album. Nothing more."
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Baz Anderson StaffPosts: 13237 |
yes, I don't know how valid my opinion is on this because I haven't been a big fan of Arch Enemy for a long time, even after seeing them live this summer
but I just found this album plain, boring and nothing special at all
maybe I need to listen to it more, but I really don't feel like giving it the time
it just seemed like typical Arch Enemy - totally overrated and blown out of proportion
still, I suppose if you are an avid fan of the band, you will probably react the way the review is written, it will please Arch Enemy fans
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metalhead86
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the first time i listened to the album i thought "holy shit ", now the more i listen to it the more i realise that this is just another medicore cd, it's not bad but there's just nothing new about it... i definitely miss their older stuff
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Abattoir StaffPosts: 3630 |
Good album for me. Nothing special, like they we're saying before the release...but anyway
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Stigmatized ..........
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13.10.2007 - 15:46Rating: 6
9.1? Nah, it's not that good IMO. I couldn't get into this album, a lot of the material sounded rehashed from the last 2. I'd give it about a 6.5.
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MorbiD GoD
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13.10.2007 - 16:04Rating: 8
Some doubtful solos but a very strong sound.
Arch's best album in my opinion.
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"unimaginative and unoriginal songs"
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This album is BORING! I love 'Wages Of Sin' because, even if it is a bit unoriginal, it got passion and hunger, but this one here is just a band going through the motions trying to cash on the success that the last boring fest (read 'Apocalypse Machine') got on America.
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HardSide
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13.10.2007 - 16:36Rating: 8
It's a good album, but definately does not deserve such a high rating. There have been albums reviewed by Metalstorm that are much better then this album and yet they got a lower rating.
However to sum everything you wrote that I agree with, yes its much better then their last album (Doomsday Machine), it goes back to their roots, and yes the guitar is excellent and uplifting for those who wanna hear how In Flames, Dark Tranqulity use to sound like when they were in their prime. However vocal wise, even if she is trying her hardest on this album, it still doesn't cut it. Such good guitar talent should not be wasted on such a bad vocalist.
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PrettyMao
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Written by Guest on 13.10.2007 at 12:10
I guess it's a small mercy that most (though not all) of Gossow's horrid vocal effects have gone. She still doesn't sound completely natural though.
A stadium album. Nothing more."
I hate to sound like one of those fans that can never move on when a band changes. Which is almost never the case as I like lots of bands that have greatly changed their sound and/or line-ups over the years....
But with Arch Enemy I just can't get into them with Angela singing, and trust me I have tried having been with them since Stigmata. The rifts on the Angela albums are prety damn good most of the time, but I find Angela's vocals flat and lacking the intensity that Johan Liiva... She doesn't sound "natural" and I am not referring to sound effects, but rather, she feels out of place and sometimes sounds like she is trying too hard to make an impression, but everyone can see through it...
Anyways, I might download a single here or there, but I have not had the desire to get an Arch Enemy album since Johan's departure...
That being said, if anyone did like Johan's vocals check out his other bands; Hearse, Furbowl, NonExist... He still has what it takes in my opinion.
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Weird to see that many people here have the same opinion. I found it UTTERLY BORING. I haven't even felt like listening to the whole album, I think I stopped two songs before the end, and I was forcing myself not to. I don't think I'll try to listen to it again. I won't make it. I'd give it a 6, and yet, I'm generous.
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=maD.Doc:. Melodeath Master
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13.10.2007 - 22:34Rating: 8
"Angela's death voice sound more natural than on their previous work "Doomsday Machine" (less effects/production I guess)." As Angela said herself, on the last record she recorded three layers of vocals on each song, just to test the effect of it, now she's gone back to record only ONE track of vocals to sound more natural, and agressive.
The review is great, and the album is great, and Arch Enemy ARE just fucking brilliant!
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MetalHead74
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14.10.2007 - 01:28Rating: 8
I do not agree with the review. I'm one of those who thinks it's just an average album.IMO the first 2 albums they did with Angela (Wages of Sin and Anthems of Rebellion) are their best work they've done so far.
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Fane
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100% agree on this one. They really have improved their guitars and Angela's voice is more natural now which is good imo. One of the best albums on this year!
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Danny Thomas
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14.10.2007 - 10:31Rating: 9
i couldn't agree more, in fact you took the words right out of my mouth. i was disappointed in anthems of rebellion and doomsday machine was better but still lacking compared to wages, but this album might just be their best overall album, at least since Angela joined.
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Bash' :)
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The reveiw was a bit ... avoiding alittle ... anyways, I agree with hardcorish riffs ... it's a boring & plain for after some listens......
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
funny this was actually the FIRST raving review I have read about this album anywhere (even the mainstream metal mags found it plain and boring and uninspired pure stadium metal)
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Dream Taster The Enemy Within StaffPosts: 1335 |
14.10.2007 - 15:23Rating: 9
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.10.2007 at 15:02
funny this was actually the FIRST raving review I have read about this album anywhere (even the mainstream metal mags found it plain and boring and uninspired pure stadium metal)
I find it hard to believe that so many people find this uninspired. I find this "Rise of the Tyrant" quite enjoyable, and not boring at all. You want boring? Well, turn on mainstream radio.
But it's clear that I am part of a minority regarding this release. I just was not aware of that before reading the comments here
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Dream Taster on 14.10.2007 at 15:23
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.10.2007 at 15:02
funny this was actually the FIRST raving review I have read about this album anywhere (even the mainstream metal mags found it plain and boring and uninspired pure stadium metal)
I find it hard to believe that so many people find this uninspired. I find this "Rise of the Tyrant" quite enjoyable, and not boring at all. You want boring? Well, turn on mainstream radio.
But it's clear that I am part of a minority regarding this release. I just was not aware of that before reading the comments here
I haven't heard Rise of the Tyrant yet so I can't judge yet, but if it is anything like their previous two then it is unspired and boring for me too. The only album with Angela I found great and inspired up to this point was Wages Of Sin
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Sunioj
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14.10.2007 - 15:34Rating: 8
I personally think that this was at least better than Doomsday Machine and Anthems of Rebellion. I would give this album like a 7. At least it wasn't as slow and mid paced as the previous. I also find Angela's vocal qualities to be at its prime of Wages of Sin.
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Passenger Lost To Apathy
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14.10.2007 - 17:21Rating: 9
Personally I think they've been getting a little bit worse with each new release since Wages Of Sin, but I still like this album, and I prefer it over the thousands of wannabe In Flames that pop up each month. I don't see how any Arch Enmy fan can be dissapointed with this. Let's say I wouldn't rate it 9.1, more like 8.1.
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Danny Thomas
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14.10.2007 - 20:07Rating: 9
Written by Dream Taster on 14.10.2007 at 15:23
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.10.2007 at 15:02
funny this was actually the FIRST raving review I have read about this album anywhere (even the mainstream metal mags found it plain and boring and uninspired pure stadium metal)
I find it hard to believe that so many people find this uninspired. I find this "Rise of the Tyrant" quite enjoyable, and not boring at all. You want boring? Well, turn on mainstream radio.
But it's clear that I am part of a minority regarding this release. I just was not aware of that before reading the comments here
as i said, i'm with you on this one. i thought it was a breath of fresh air compared to their last 2
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Metal Maiden Megadead
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15.10.2007 - 03:18Rating: 8
Well, guess i'm the only one who thinks they're getting better and better...repetitive - maybe, but i couldn't agree more about the "if not broken, why fix" moto...The brothers' guitar symphonies are mindblowing, Angela sings like an angel...of death, of course... I just love every single one of Arch Enemy's albums, ESPECIALLY with Anglela, and Rise of the Tyrant is among their best imo...So i'm with you on this one, not-haters... If i could only get my hands on that Japanese bonus track...
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"Rise Of The Tyrant"... are they trying to make some sort of analogous connection with the Bush administration?
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Dhamer
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Ya fucking great album, to bad it SUCKS......
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Jason W. Razorbliss StaffPosts: 3523 |
15.10.2007 - 08:31Rating: 8
Written by Dream Taster on 14.10.2007 at 15:23
I find it hard to believe that so many people find this uninspired. I find this "Rise of the Tyrant" quite enjoyable, and not boring at all. You want boring? Well, turn on mainstream radio.
But it's clear that I am part of a minority regarding this release. I just was not aware of that before reading the comments here
Well, I'm certainly in agreement with your review here, so count me in the minority too I think this is their best Angela-fronted record, along with Wages Of Sin. Angela's vocals sound better, the brothers Amott seem inspired instead of tired like they did to me last CD release. Along with a few other CDs, they are in heavy rotation in my car player and at work! Cheers for not following the trend of so many other review sites!!
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BurbotsRevenge Foetal Butchery
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15.10.2007 - 13:04Rating: 7
its good and all, but 9.1 i think is a bit high
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