What if...? - A Theory On The Decline Of The Bodom Boys

Written by: psykometal
Published: 19.01.2012
What if the reason we have all become so disappointed with Children Of Bodom in recent years is not completely Alexi's fault but inadvertently Alexander's?

Anybody who has been a fan of the band since their days of including neo-classical/shred in their music knows that their style changed drastically immediately after the departure of original rhythm guitarist and founding member Alexander Kuoppolla. We know that Alexi and Alexander shared writing duties but for the most part Alexi and Roope do not (with the exception of Roope getting to play a solo or 2 here and there), we also know that Roope is more than capable of playing on par with the best shredders out there. So what if Alexander was the reason that they included neo-classical/shred in their music and that when he left so did the band's reason to continue to include neo-classical/shred?

Alexi has stated on multiple occasions that he has no desire to return to the complex technical writing style of old and that they will continue to write in their current vastly simpler much less technical style that they adopted for Are You Dead Yet? (coincidentally the first album written and released after the departure of Alexander). Also if you noticed that their technical complex style did decrease a bit on Hate Crew Deathroll, which is the last album that Alexander wrote with the band; he also left the band shortly after its release stating that he was tired of being in a band and touring the world being away from his family (a very noble reason). Now I'm not saying that Alexander is an asshole or anything like that at all because his reason is very noble, understandable and agreeable; better to leave the band and be happy than to continue and perform when you're heart just isn't in it anymore.

Now this is not necessarily what I believe happened nor am I attempting to state this as fact, this is merely a theory however if you take this into consideration and think about the path their career has taken you might see the possibility that there may be a spot of truth in this somewhere...


 
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flamesoficarus - 19.01.2012 at 11:14  
Dude, this has crossed my mind a number of times. Unfortunately i dont think Alexader has recorded anything since leaving, so we cant tell if this style was truely his.
psykometal - 19.01.2012 at 17:35  
Written by flamesoficarus on 19.01.2012 at 11:14

Dude, this has crossed my mind a number of times. Unfortunately i dont think Alexader has recorded anything since leaving, so we cant tell if this style was truely his.

No he hasn't, I've looked. Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought of this; I kinda expected to get some flack for writing this. I'm surprised I haven't yet...
Shadowcross - 20.01.2012 at 16:29  
Hmmm intriguing idea..
Lukas Jackson - 21.01.2012 at 04:39  
Thoughts arise!
RhaegarTargaryen - 24.01.2012 at 23:32  
I completely agree... not trying to be hipster, but some two years ago I talked with my friend, both of us are huge (old) COB fans, and we somehow came to the conclusion that the COB decline had everything to do with Alexander departing .. especially since thrash influences rises with Roope's arrival.
Robstar - 27.01.2012 at 00:05  
I must say You are right dude and is not a theory what you mean I will say is a fact!
ThunderAxe1989 - 30.01.2012 at 02:26  
I've never really noticed that. Good theory.
Frodd - 31.01.2012 at 04:03  
I used to like them, but then something happened. Was it peer pressure?
psykometal - 31.01.2012 at 04:28  
Written by Frodd on 31.01.2012 at 04:03

I used to like them, but then something happened. Was it peer pressure?

Did you even read this Fredd or did you just tl;dr it? Lmao. Nobody but CoB knows wtf happened but this makes a lot of sense...if you read it...
Frodd - 31.01.2012 at 06:40  
Written by psykometal on 31.01.2012 at 04:28

Written by Frodd on 31.01.2012 at 04:03

I used to like them, but then something happened. Was it peer pressure?

Did you even read this Fredd or did you just tl;dr it? Lmao. Nobody but CoB knows wtf happened but this makes a lot of sense...if you read it...

I did, and I meant I used to like their Alexander-era efforts, but then suddenly I lost interest in the band completely.
psykometal - 31.01.2012 at 06:53  
Written by Frodd on 31.01.2012 at 06:40

I did, and I meant I used to like their Alexander-era efforts, but then suddenly I lost interest in the band completely.

Pretty sure a lot of us did...
Frodd - 31.01.2012 at 06:57  
Written by psykometal on 31.01.2012 at 06:53

Pretty sure a lot of us did...

What I should have said is "Sounds pretty credible, but not enough mana to give a fuck about this band."
Amatsu Mikaboshi - 05.02.2012 at 02:51  
Before reading this, I've had thoughts onto how Roope was regarding with the responsibility that Alexander had during styles although I must say (*Prepares to fend against upcoming snowballs) but Relentless Reckless Forever had a more technical complex output than did Hatecrew Deathroll.
Carl Berg - 06.02.2012 at 03:00  
Written by psykometal on 19.01.2012 at 17:35

Written by flamesoficarus on 19.01.2012 at 11:14

Dude, this has crossed my mind a number of times. Unfortunately i dont think Alexader has recorded anything since leaving, so we cant tell if this style was truely his.

No he hasn't, I've looked. Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought of this; I kinda expected to get some flack for writing this. I'm surprised I haven't yet...


Actually, he has recorded quite a few stuff since. One which I can remember from the top of my head was with Timo Rautiainen on his Sarvivuori album, but I recall him involved in other musical projects.
AngelofDeth - 06.03.2012 at 01:57  
...how did this get this far??? If you simply look at the credits for the composer for each song on their albums this theory is easily disproven. so....

Lets look at some FACTS

Something Wild: Entirely Written by Alexi
Hatebreeder: Every song by Alexi, except Bed of Razors co-written with Alexander
Follow the Reaper: Every song written by Alexi
HateCrew Death Roll: Written entirely by Alexi xcept Chokehold and Lil Blood Red co-written with Alexander.
Are You Dead Yet: Written entirely by Alexi, one song co-written with Roope.
Bloodrunk: Written entirely by Alexi
Relentless Reckless Forever: Written Entirely by Alexi

You can find all this information here
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/children-of-bodom-p293758/discography

Also if you read any interview about writint with Alexi, he states himself he write 90%+ of the material. When other members of the band come to him with material he is very picky and usually denies it, this is why the other members have side projects, Warmen, EveMaster etc.

So Alexander helped write just 3 songs out of the 36 original songs CoB produces while he was a member. And out of those three songs he was still a CO-writer.
Also by looking at the credits for the following albums, we can see that CoB didnt change the role of band members in the writing process. Alexi continues to write most the material, with Roope co-writing just 1 song since he joined.

So the fact that Alexander left, seemingly at the same time appears to be a coincident. Also HCDR already marked a change in the band and Alexander was a part of CoB then.

Ultimately the reason Children of Bodom changed was due entirely to Alexi. He changed and CoB changed with him.

Why he changed? now that would prolly be a better idea for a thread. Here are some brief ideas on that...
In interviews he states he grew tired of playing Neo-classical music. Also he got into drinking and partying alot around the time of HCDR, so perhaps he just wanted to make music thats easier to play while drunk. Maybe his personal music changed and the new music better fits his tastes now. would make sense as i dont know many hardcore partyers into classical music...
Nickferatu367 - 14.09.2012 at 05:24  
That's legitimately ponderous.
jdsony - 17.09.2012 at 19:45  
Despite Alexi writing almost everything I think Alexander's leaving could still have had a big impact on the changes. Myself being a song writer and guitarist in a band I find I have a certain style but it most definitely is influenced by the strengths and weaknesses of the other guitarist. Writing changes with time but when I write riffs I don't just write them for myself, I write them for the band which actually turns out different (for better or worse) than I expected.
Guib - 20.11.2012 at 01:09  
... Does all of this really matter? -_- It changed, get over it theres nothing no one can do, why is it so important to everyone to have or to try to find a reason for this change ? Who cares if its because of Alexi, Alexander, Jesus or Buddah ?
psykometal - 20.11.2012 at 01:42  
Written by Guib on 20.11.2012 at 01:09

... Does all of this really matter? -_- It changed, get over it theres nothing no one can do, why is it so important to everyone to have or to try to find a reason for this change ? Who cares if its because of Alexi, Alexander, Jesus or Buddah ?

Not really. Just had a random thought one day and decided to type it up and post it for shits.

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