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| Well I suppose I don't have any reason not to check this out. :/ |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.05.2012 at 19:28
Well I suppose I don't have any reason not to check this out. :/
Unless your ears have vacated the sides of your head, otherwise, no. |
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Well, that track "Overseer" was outstanding. I really liked how they use the bass, not sure if fretless or high on effects.
I guess it deserves a try. |
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Written by Unhealer on 10.05.2012 at 19:48
Well, that track "Overseer" was outstanding. I really liked how they use the bass, not sure if fretless or high on effects.
I guess it deserves a try.
The two tracks available on Youtube are amongst the slower of the album, not the tracks I would have chosen as previews. Some of the other tracks really show how the band come alive. |
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| Hmm. I'll check this out when I get the chance |
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| Well, you've grabbed my attention, i'll check this out as soon as i can find it |
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Both their albums are on Spotify for those that have it  |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 10.05.2012 at 20:49
Spotify
Fuck you -.- |
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Written by BoxCar Willy on 10.05.2012 at 21:40
Fuck you -.-
It's coz you live in a third world country. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 10.05.2012 at 21:41
Written by BoxCar Willy on 10.05.2012 at 21:40
Fuck you -.-
It's coz you live in a third world country.
Seriously though, you're playlists pop up in my FB ticker, and I REALLY want hear dat shit.
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Written by BoxCar Willy on 10.05.2012 at 21:45
Seriously though, you're playlists pop up in my FB ticker, and I REALLY want hear dat shit.
>.>
I enjoy taunting you. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 10.05.2012 at 21:48
Written by BoxCar Willy on 10.05.2012 at 21:45
Seriously though, you're playlists pop up in my FB ticker, and I REALLY want hear dat shit.
>.>
I enjoy taunting you.
I enjoy your taunts. |
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| Glad to see these guys get some attention. I'm still waiting for it to come in the mail >:O |
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Written by Dangerboner on 11.05.2012 at 00:57
Glad to see these guys get some attention. I'm still waiting for it to come in the mail >:O
Well hope you get it soon. If you liked the debut album you'll like this, they're both very similar. |
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Written by BoxCar Willy on 10.05.2012 at 21:45
Seriously though, you're playlists pop up in my FB ticker
Yep. You're a heavy listener, Joe  |
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JD - 11.05.2012 at 02:38
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 10.05.2012 at 21:41
Written by BoxCar Willy on 10.05.2012 at 21:40
Fuck you -.-
It's coz you live in a third world country.
Made my day  |
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Written by JD on 11.05.2012 at 02:38
Made my day
Call it payment for the non-alcoholic beer joke... |
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| If Intronaut played death (this in reference to the leading bass)... interesting sound. Good review, I'm digging the music. |
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Written by Chobo_jokeR on 11.05.2012 at 06:15
If Intronaut played death (this in reference to the leading bass)... interesting sound. Good review, I'm digging the music.
exactly my thoughts on this album.... but i think its more progressive |
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| You can't call Asphyx derivative. They were part of the first "wave" of death metal so to speak. It's like calling Black Sabbath a derivative doom band. |
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Written by Daniell on 11.05.2012 at 12:53
You can't call Asphyx derivative. They were part of the first "wave" of death metal so to speak. It's like calling Black Sabbath a derivative doom band.
Rehashing music you did decades ago = derivative. I don't understand why people continually fail to understand this. Just because you were amongst the first to do it doesn't give you a free pass to remake the same music over and over and be exempt from "derivative" status. Saint Vitus' recent album is shamelessly derivative of its own early music, because they are deriving their new sounds directly from their old sound with no deviation whatsoever.
Here, I'm just going to copy and paste the appropriate parts of the first entry from Thesaurus.com because these conversations with fans who can't accept the truth are tiresome and cyclical
Derivative
Definition: transmitted from source
Synonyms: ancestral, coming from, hereditary, not original, rehashed, secondary, subordinate, uninventive, unoriginal
Antonyms: inventive, original, unique (or: the very definition of what Asphyx aren't) |
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I do find it weird that you pick on Asphyx when it's far more understandable to pick on the revivalist bands (not to mention that I thought you liked Asphyx latest).
Also... with the crying babies part... You meant !T.O.O.H.! ? Needless to say I dig this stuff. Won't even bother to check more songs out, just flat out buy them asap. |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 11.05.2012 at 13:09
I do find it weird that you pick on Asphyx when it's far more understandable to pick on the revivalist bands (not to mention that I thought you liked Asphyx latest).
Also... with the crying babies part... You meant !T.O.O.H.! ? Needless to say I dig this stuff. Won't even bother to check more songs out, just flat out buy them asap.
I used Asphyx because it's something everyone knows and likes at this point. I do think it's decent, but I also think it's derivative, the two can co-exist but doesn't stop something from being derivative because it's decent. People need to stop thinking the word derivative was designed purely for metal bands.
Synonyms from the Free Dictionary: unoriginal, copied, second-hand, rehashed, imitative, plagiarized, uninventive, plagiaristic |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 11.05.2012 at 13:12
Synonyms from the Freed Dictionary: unoriginal, copied, second-hand, rehashed, imitative, plagiarized, uninventive, plagiaristic
Out of those words I personally wouldn't use copied. I reserve that word for those that copy other bands, not themselves and Asphyx has always had their own sound so.... But I can definitely go with words like unoriginal and the likes.
Also, you didn't answer my question about crying babies |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 11.05.2012 at 13:16
Out of those words I personally wouldn't use copied. I reserve that word for those that copy other bands, not themselves and Asphyx has always had their own sound so.... But I can definitely go with words like unoriginal and the likes.
Also, you didn't answer my question about crying babies
Very well, I retract that particular use of the underline, but the others stand and apply to Asphyx (though imitative also means copy in a sense)
Babies crying, shit I've heard that done on so many records but the only one that actually springs to mind is on an Igorrr song. I love Igorrr but having babies booing on a song is definitely an over done thing when you want to be weird (despite the fact I can only remember the one track). I think Cathedral might have done it on their last album too.... |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 11.05.2012 at 13:19
Babies crying, shit I've heard that done on so many records but the only one that actually springs to mind is on an Igorrr song. I love Igorrr but having babies booing on a song is definitely an over done thing when you want to be weird (despite the fact I can only remember the one track). I think Cathedral might have done it on their last album too....
Hhahaha well, the only one that I remember from the top of my head is the beginning of !T.O.O.H.!'s Rad a Trest. And I dig that scream with the monstrous growl right before. I knew I was for a ride at that point. |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 11.05.2012 at 13:24
Hhahaha well, the only one that I remember from the top of my head is the beginning of !T.O.O.H.!'s Rad a Trest. And I dig that scream with the monstrous growl right before. I knew I was for a ride at that point.
Yeah I liked that bit too, also the sudden sheep at the of the song too. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 11.05.2012 at 13:05
Here, I'm just going to copy and paste the appropriate parts of the first entry from Thesaurus.com because these conversations with fans who can't accept the truth are tiresome and cyclical
Derivative
Definition: transmitted from source
Synonyms: ancestral, coming from, hereditary, not original, rehashed, secondary, subordinate, uninventive, unoriginal
Antonyms: inventive, original, unique (or: the very definition of what Asphyx aren't)
I know exactly what this word means, I just happen to disagree with your use of it in this discussion. If a band plays the same music for 30 years, they aren't derivative, they are stagnant. But hey, to each his own 
By the way, I have 37 different dictionaries and theasuruses at home, not to mention the access to all online sources, so there is no need to quote them here  |
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Written by Daniell on 11.05.2012 at 14:41
I know exactly what this word means, I just happen to disagree with your use of it in this discussion. If a band plays the same music for 30 years, they aren't derivative, they are stagnant. But hey, to each his own
By the way, I have 37 different dictionaries and theasuruses at home, not to mention the access to all online sources, so there is no need to quote them here
I think it's been proven that my use was perfectly valid, and relevant, so it's really not "to each his own" when the facts say otherwise. "To each his own" would suggest that words have different meanings depending on the person, which of course is not the case. Derivative = rehashed, not original, uninventive, unoriginal (I'm sure your thesauri will confirm this), and as per my description: "Asphyx's recent derivative regurgitation of old school death metal" these all describe Asphyx's recent album regardless of whether or not you like the album itself (that's fact, not opinion), and seeing as, in my opinion, a band should be primarily judged on their recent output they indeed qualify for being classed as, to some extent at least, "derivative" as a band - though this point is actually not related to the original text because I was implicitly referring the recent output of Asphyx, not the band as a whole (you'll see that if you read my staff pick again, so your original point of me calling Asphyx derivative was somewhat inaccurate, though it is still the case to a large extent as I have now explained). Having 37 dictionaries and thesauri is a bit pointless if you're going to selectively ignore what's written in them |
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So... yeah... Boobs.
Anyway I YT a track and it was alright, seems like a "grower" |
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Absak - 11.05.2012 at 17:47
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| Reminds me of Skeleton Of God a bit. |
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| Linguistic arguments aside (I'll never win against an educated native speaker anyway ), I must say that this album makes for an intriguing listen, at least after one spin. It'll take quite a bit more to get into this chimera, but something tells me I will enjoy it. |
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Written by Daniell on 15.05.2012 at 14:25
Linguistic arguments aside (I'll never win against an educated native speaker anyway ), I must say that this album makes for an intriguing listen, at least after one spin. It'll take quite a bit more to get into this chimera, but something tells me I will enjoy it.
Well as a fan of Demilich and Carbonized (I think if I recall correctly) I would have hoped you'd find something likeable in this |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 15.05.2012 at 14:28
Well as a fan of Demilich and Carbonized (I think if I recall correctly) I would have hoped you'd find something likeable in this
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| Hadn''t checked this one out yet. Nice indeeed. A Lot of Voivodisms in it. |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.05.2012 at 13:38
Hadn''t checked this one out yet. Nice indeeed. A Lot of Voivodisms in it.
Indeed, an influence I hadn't mentioned (though that Carbonized album is like a Voivod-grind album) |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 24.05.2012 at 13:43
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.05.2012 at 13:38
Hadn''t checked this one out yet. Nice indeeed. A Lot of Voivodisms in it.
Indeed, an influence I hadn't mentioned (though that Carbonized album is like a Voivod-grind album)
Never liked Carbonized though |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.05.2012 at 13:45
Never liked Carbonized though
Not even 'For the Security'? It's straight up old school death I think. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 24.05.2012 at 13:46
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 24.05.2012 at 13:45
Never liked Carbonized though
Not even 'For the Security'? It's straight up old school death I think.
Nope, not even that one. SOmehow the band never clicked for me. |
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| "...egregious exaggerators, the fruit of their offerings usually bearing little more than banal, overproduced death metal standard with only a cosmetic melding of keyboards and unnecessary, wasteful technicality." Yes. |
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| Finally go around to listenning to this. It is sort of a spiritual successor to Gorguts's Obscura (which is a major compliment, coming from me). It's not quite as odd as that album, but it derives its appeal from a similar source. At the end of a year that was on the weak side for death metal, I am happy to have found something to dig my teeth into. |
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