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I love the album - it's been on heavy rotation the last two weeks -good review but the score is a bit high. it's an awesome album, but not quite that close to perfect.
i'd probably score it between 8.5 and 9.
definitely worth buying if you like the whole 80's thrash movement. |
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I hear ya, it is a little short and there definitely isn't much in the way of variety, heh. I like your score too, but wouldn't be sure about a rating any lower than that. It's just one of those albums for me, every time I put it on im just blown away by the intensity of it. Each time I'm sitting there after 'Kill on Command' ends, I just have this grin of satisfaction. The lyrics are actually fairly clever, although they're definetly nothing that "artsy" or have anything deeper to look into. Personally, I probably give this the boost from 9 to 10 out of guilty pleasure. I really do love me some thrash  |
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Alright, I'm gonna back-track really quick. Not that a 9 isn't a fine rating for this album, but there is no guilty pleasure here, this album gets a 10 from me. No guilty pleasure included 
I would probably change the overall in the review to a 9.6 though... |
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| Definitely a cd defines that thrash metal |
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| Love this album and always loved this band! I also loved the Torture Tactics EP and Oppressing the Masses. |
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A class album, Too many great riffs  |
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| I have been thrash-banger for more than 20 years and now i have found this one? Gosh! Master Of Puppets has been dethroned finally, this is beating heart of thrash metal - relentless, agressive, merciless and straight, the essence...great review! |
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Written by Cryzpin on 13.03.2011 at 23:03
I have been thrash-banger for more than 20 years and now i have found this one? Gosh! Master Of Puppets has been dethroned finally, this is beating heart of thrash metal - relentless, agressive, merciless and straight, the essence...great review!
Are you serious? That's is one of the most unbelievable statements I've ever heard (regarding 20 years and just discovering Vio-Lence). Seriously, that is impossible. What have been listening all those years?  |
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Written by K†ulu on 13.03.2011 at 23:12
Are you serious? That's is one of the most unbelievable statements I've ever heard (regarding 20 years and just discovering Vio-Lence). Seriously, that is impossible. What have been listening all those years?
Heh  not that impossible, there are still the other metal branches and regarding thrash, you can live on big thrash four plus Testament almost forever not being aware of such treasures as this one. |
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K†ulu - 14.03.2011 at 11:18
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Written by Cryzpin on 14.03.2011 at 10:08
Written by K†ulu on 13.03.2011 at 23:12
Are you serious? That's is one of the most unbelievable statements I've ever heard (regarding 20 years and just discovering Vio-Lence). Seriously, that is impossible. What have been listening all those years?
Heh not that impossible, there are still the other metal branches and regarding thrash, you can live on big thrash four plus Testament almost forever not being aware of such treasures as this one.
Well, I thought Eternal Nightmare was an absolute must for any thrash fan, and everybody into the genre would know about that album. But just listening to the Big Four plus Testament is just not enough. I'd get bored for sure. There was a lot of good underground bands at the time plus the whole technical/progressive thrash scene as well. |
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Written by K†ulu on 14.03.2011 at 11:18
Well, I thought Eternal Nightmare was an absolute must for any thrash fan, and everybody into the genre would know about that album. But just listening to the Big Four plus Testament is just not enough. I'd get bored for sure. There was a lot of good underground bands at the time plus the whole technical/progressive thrash scene as well.
You know at 1988 I was 9, living in communist Czechoslovakia, no money, no Internet, no metal periodicals, i had big troubles just for having long hair how could i possibly put my hands on underground thrash metal? Now for some years i'm catching up what i have missed and it's a lot of fun and great discoveries! |
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| Ive never got the big deal about this album. *shrugs* The riffs are highly generic, and all the songs sound very similar to each other.... for me, it's certainly not in the same league as albums like "Darkness Descends", "Forbidden Evil", and "Pleasure To Kill", which to me are definitive thrash classics. |
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Written by Angelic Storm on 14.03.2011 at 13:36
Ive never got the big deal about this album. *shrugs* The riffs are highly generic, and all the songs sound very similar to each other.... for me, it's certainly not in the same league as albums like "Darkness Descends", "Forbidden Evil", and "Pleasure To Kill", which to me are definitive thrash classics.
It pisses all over Pleasure To Kill imo. But then again I am biased cause I find ALL of German thrash from that period total crap.
Imo Eternal Nightmares is also better than Forbidden Evil. At least Vio-lence doesn't have that tyical Bay Area sound to them which Forbidden does have. |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.03.2011 at 13:41
It pisses all over Pleasure To Kill imo. But then again I am biased cause I find ALL of German thrash from that period total crap.
Imo Eternal Nightmares is also better than Forbidden Evil. At least Vio-lence doesn't have that tyical Bay Area sound to them which Forbidden does have.
I am aware of your views on German thrash. hehee
"Eternal Nightmare", to me at least, is highly generic with very similar sounding riffs. At least on "Forbidden Evil", you can tell the difference between each individual song.  Listening to "Eternal Nightmare", is like listening to one long continuous song, which lasts the length of the whole album. There's absolutely no variation on it whatsoever. It is only my opinion of course, but Ive never got why that album is regarded so highly. To me it's not even a good thrash album, let alone a classic one. *puts flame suit on*  |
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Written by Angelic Storm on 14.03.2011 at 13:53
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.03.2011 at 13:41
It pisses all over Pleasure To Kill imo. But then again I am biased cause I find ALL of German thrash from that period total crap.
Imo Eternal Nightmares is also better than Forbidden Evil. At least Vio-lence doesn't have that tyical Bay Area sound to them which Forbidden does have.
I am aware of your views on German thrash. hehee
"Eternal Nightmare", to me at least, is highly generic with very similar sounding riffs. At least on "Forbidden Evil", you can tell the difference between each individual song. Listening to "Eternal Nightmare", is like listening to one long continuous song, which lasts the length of the whole album. There's absolutely no variation on it whatsoever. It is only my opinion of course, but Ive never got why that album is regarded so highly. To me it's not even a good thrash album, let alone a classic one. *puts flame suit on*
Imo there is way more variation on eternal Nightmare than on Pleasure To Kill, that album is purely one noisy ramshackle untight piece of garbage |
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K†ulu - 14.03.2011 at 15:01
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Written by Cryzpin on 14.03.2011 at 11:44
Written by K†ulu on 14.03.2011 at 11:18
Well, I thought Eternal Nightmare was an absolute must for any thrash fan, and everybody into the genre would know about that album. But just listening to the Big Four plus Testament is just not enough. I'd get bored for sure. There was a lot of good underground bands at the time plus the whole technical/progressive thrash scene as well.
You know at 1988 I was 9, living in communist Czechoslovakia, no money, no Internet, no metal periodicals, i had big troubles just for having long hair how could i possibly put my hands on underground thrash metal? Now for some years i'm catching up what i have missed and it's a lot of fun and great discoveries!
Well, makes sense. Yeah, and also listening to Thrash at 9? Were you? That would be quite "disturbing," but maybe not, I don't know Anyway, this album is quite good. But I might have to agree with Angelic Storm in saying that it's a bit repetitive. Need to listen to this one some time again. |
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Written by K†ulu on 14.03.2011 at 15:01
Well, makes sense. Yeah, and also listening to Thrash at 9? Were you? That would be quite "disturbing," but maybe not, I don't know
Actually (sweet memories) it was in 4th grade of elementary school when i secretly traded 3 magnetic tapes (copies fo course) from older guys: Metal Church debut, Walls Of Jericho and Master Of Puppets - these turned me into headbanger for life, i have been totaly stunned by the music and it was not disturbing, i would say it was extatically liberating , and so empowering. I had to have them hidden all the time from the fear that my parents teachers would get into troubles if found by some pro-government freak, strange times... |
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| This one goes to Cult status. |
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Written by Angelic Storm on 14.03.2011 at 13:36
Ive never got the big deal about this album. *shrugs* The riffs are highly generic, and all the songs sound very similar to each other.... for me, it's certainly not in the same league as albums like "Darkness Descends", "Forbidden Evil", and "Pleasure To Kill", which to me are definitive thrash classics.
I never understood the fuss around it either. Imo, this album is totally overrated. Boring music with atrocious vocals. |
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| Actually I checked them out too after hearing the praise in the hope it might click, but it didn't. |
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| Hmmm sad... I totally dig the music but the vocals... awful tbh. |
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I wouldn't give it a 9.7 but I definitely love this album. What's the deal with the hate on the vocals?  |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 17.12.2011 at 23:35
I wouldn't give it a 9.7 but I definitely love this album. What's the deal with the hate on the vocals?
It was like that back in the day as well, the vocals were either loved or hated. I for one love the vocals cause Sean Killian doesn't sound like any other thrash vocalist out there. |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.12.2011 at 00:00
Sean Killian doesn't sound like any other thrash vocalist out there.
Agreed, although being unique doesn't always equate to good quality. |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 18.12.2011 at 00:07
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.12.2011 at 00:00
Sean Killian doesn't sound like any other thrash vocalist out there.
Agreed, although being unique doesn't always equate to good quality.
That is true but here it does. |
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| I love his vocals, this is one of my favorite thrash albums. just love the reckless energy. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 17.12.2011 at 22:25
Actually I checked them out too after hearing the praise in the hope it might click, but it didn't.
but then again you don't like thrash 99% of the times |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.12.2011 at 00:18
but then again you don't like thrash 99% of the times
True but the way people spoke about this I was expecting to be at least marginally impressed but it sounded like most other things, with extra bad vocals. |
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Written by RavenKing on 17.12.2011 at 21:29
I never understood the fuss around it either. Imo, this album is totally overrated. Boring music with atrocious vocals.
It's a relief to find that I'm not the only one who finds this album highly overrated, when I originally posted in this thread, I thought I'd be the only one who thought that.
Oh, and I can't really remember the vocals, but I do know that they weren't the reason I hated it. The riffing was highly generic, and the songs very samey all the way through. If the vocals were awful, they just contributed to a bad album, not made it so. |
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| ^I have no problem what so ever in distinguish the different riffs. Songwritting is pretty top notch here, coming from someone that doesn't even like most of the "awesomse" and classic thrash releases. Just the vocals put me off. |
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| If I could, I'd rescore this album around an 8.9 or an even 9 |
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Written by Nosurper on 18.12.2011 at 22:17
If I could, I'd rescore this album around an 8.9 or an even 9
At least you still think it's in the range of brilliance. |
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| I prefer even Paul Baloff to Sean Killian, this guy makes me grate my teeth together. Underneath his less than impacting wailing I can hear some great, if generic, riffs, and the songs are put together in typical Bay Area form similar to the faster songs on 'Bonded By Blood'. |
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