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1. Paradise Lost - Gothic
1991
2. Paradise Lost - Icon
1993
3. Paradise Lost - Draconian Times
1995
4. Paradise Lost - Shades Of God
1992
5. Paradise Lost - Tragic Idol
2012
6. Paradise Lost - Faith Divides Us - Death Unites Us
2009
7. Paradise Lost - One Second
1997
8. Paradise Lost - In Requiem
2007
9. Paradise Lost - Symbol Of Life
2002
10. Paradise Lost - Paradise Lost
2005
11. Paradise Lost - Host
1999
12. Paradise Lost - Lost Paradise
1990
13. Paradise Lost - Believe In Nothing
2001



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Marcel Hubregtse - 22.01.2014 at 11:47  
Katatonia death doom pioneers?

They did play death doom but pioneers they weren't. That would be like calling Saturnus and Officium Triste pioneers of the death doom genre.
Erik M. - 22.01.2014 at 21:18  
Written by ManiacBlasphemer on 22.01.2014 at 01:43

Yeah, was talking about MDB and of course the other ones too, PL, Anathema, Katatonia...


MDB and PL, definitely. Anathema maybe, because of Serenades and especially The Silent Enigma. Those are the only two death doom albums they made, sadly. Katatonia only has Brave Murder Day and while it's a masterpiece it probably didn't have such a big influence on the death doom genre because it's from 1996, whereas the true pioneer albums in death doom were released between 1990 and 1994. MDB has two full length albums and three EP's before 1995 that were all death doom, so they were probably very influential. Then, with The Angel and the Dark River, the true gothic kicked in and they were pretty gothic doom for a couple of years, until the end of the decade when they released The Light at the End of the World. Since then, they've mostly been a mix of doom, death and gothic, just like Aaron himself stated in interviews. Lastly, PL were only truly death doom on their first two albums and Shades of God was death doom with gothic elements. Icon and everything after Icon are NOT death doom at all, despite MS labelling those albums death doom.
Erik M. - 22.01.2014 at 21:20  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 22.01.2014 at 11:47

Katatonia death doom pioneers?

They did play death doom but pioneers they weren't. That would be like calling Saturnus and Officium Triste pioneers of the death doom genre.


Yep, too bad Paradise Belongs to You wasn't released 2-3 years earlier. Then it would've definitely been a true pioneer in the atmospheric death doom genre.

Btw, most people always considered Dance of December Souls to be blackened doom. But I think there's a fair share of death in there too. What do you think?
Marcel Hubregtse - 23.01.2014 at 14:47  
Written by Erik M. on 22.01.2014 at 21:20

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 22.01.2014 at 11:47

Katatonia death doom pioneers?

They did play death doom but pioneers they weren't. That would be like calling Saturnus and Officium Triste pioneers of the death doom genre.


Yep, too bad Paradise Belongs to You wasn't released 2-3 years earlier. Then it would've definitely been a true pioneer in the atmospheric death doom genre.

Btw, most people always considered Dance of December Souls to be blackened doom. But I think there's a fair share of death in there too. What do you think?



Dance Of December Souls primarily black doom. Wouldn't call it death doom at all.
Erik M. - 24.01.2014 at 22:06  
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.01.2014 at 14:47

Dance Of December Souls primarily black doom. Wouldn't call it death doom at all.


I meant that it's rather blackened doom with some death elements, but judging from your reply I figure that there aren't many (if any) death elements in that album. It's a while ago since I listened to it, so it's hard to say.
Aristarchos - 25.02.2014 at 10:44  
This could almost be my list - if you flip it upside down
ManiacBlasphemer - 25.02.2014 at 11:06  
Written by Aristarchos on 25.02.2014 at 10:44

This could almost be my list - if you flip it upside down


What do you mean? With Gothic at the bottom?
Aristarchos - 25.02.2014 at 11:51  
Written by ManiacBlasphemer on 25.02.2014 at 11:06

Written by Aristarchos on 25.02.2014 at 10:44

This could almost be my list - if you flip it upside down


What do you mean? With Gothic at the bottom?

At least Believe In Nothing is my favourite, and then Lost Paradise and Host.
Aristarchos - 25.02.2014 at 11:53  
I wouldn't say Gothic is their worse album though, but none of my definitive favourites.
ManiacBlasphemer - 25.02.2014 at 11:55  
Written by Aristarchos on 25.02.2014 at 11:53

I wouldn't say Gothic is their worse album though, but none of my definitive favourites.


But which is your favorite though? Until now I only heard that LP is their best, though I find it odd since out of all death/doom records, this one is one of the weakest, maybe beaten only by Anathema's debut.

Edit: Sorry, I did not see the other post.

Believe in Nothing and Host are weak albums, quality wise. I placed Host over LP and the other one simply because I like Depeche Mode and this one resembled in several moments that band. But placing these three over Shades of God, Gothic, Draconian Times or even their latest ones, quality wise is just ridiculous.
Aristarchos - 25.02.2014 at 12:05  
Written by ManiacBlasphemer on 25.02.2014 at 11:55

Believe in Nothing and Host are weak albums, quality wise. I placed Host over LP and the other one simply because I like Depeche Mode and this one resembled in several moments that band. But placing these three over Shades of God, Gothic, Draconian Times or even their latest ones, quality wise is just ridiculous.

I know not many people agree with me, but that is at least my opinion.

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