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So is Rahsaan Davis going to be their studio bassist or are they going to bring in someone else? Someone local maybe...can't think off the top of my head what bassists are available.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 05.11.2011 at 23:50
Someone local maybe...can't think off the top of my head what bassists are available.
Me.
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Written by BoxCar Willy on 12.03.2012 at 05:38
Me.
I meant like... a real bassist. You couldn't keep up with Cattle Decap. 
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 12.03.2012 at 13:32
Written by BoxCar Willy on 12.03.2012 at 05:38
Me.
I meant like... a real bassist. You couldn't keep up with Cattle Decap.
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I've heard your music. And I've listened to a lot of Cattle Decap.
I perfectly estimate your power.
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 Sync - 17.03.2012 at 14:19
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| Rating: 10 |
Played a couple of new songs when I went to see them on Thursday, was pretty immense.
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s7mon - 18.03.2012 at 22:08
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Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWeTeFn0LhM&feature=player_embedded - this is pretty good stuff.
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Written by BoxCar Willy on 12.03.2012 at 15:30
Written by Troy Killjoy on 12.03.2012 at 13:32
Written by BoxCar Willy on 12.03.2012 at 05:38
Me.
I meant like... a real bassist. You couldn't keep up with Cattle Decap.
the picture you used to respond, made my night, lol.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 12.03.2012 at 23:49
I've heard your music. And I've listened to a lot of Cattle Decap.
I perfectly estimate your power.
There's no bass in any songs you've heard >.>
I'm actually a decent bassist, I couldn't keep up with CD, but if Motley Crue are hiring...
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JD - 05.05.2012 at 19:01
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| Rating: 9 |
This album kiss-serious-ass-in-frenchy-style.
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I rescind all my negative comments about this album. I listened to the full stream today with the girlfriend and really enjoyed it. Sure the clean vocals and the weird melodic chanting type singing was really out of place, but those elements are so minimal you barely notice them once the entire thing plays through.
The groove influence and breakdown usage adds so much weight to their brand of deathgrind, and the musicianship is obviously top-notch. For those who've considered this "immense" and "huge", they're definitely right on target. Everything about this album does scream "larger than life" in terms of modern extreme metal.
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Does anybody else get a bit of a deathcore vibe from this? Maybe they've always had one, I'm not very familiar with their past work, but there was a lot of breakdowns here. Not complaining though, if this is deathcore, then it's the best deathcore album ever recorded.
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| Rating: 8 |
It wasn't a deathcore output but mixing up with some heavy breakdowns did something add to the flavor. Breakdowns is new. On the first listen I thought its just another gore-grind album with ultra heavy bass and lots of crazy ass screaming. I am through with a third spin and honestly, it opens up with a different horizon and completely raw ass enjoyment stuff. One of their best work they can ever give to their fans.
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I don't get a deathcore vibe at all. Just because they incorporated the use of breakdowns doesn't mean it's a deathcore release. In fact, I think it's just like... technical deathgrind. The songs are too complex to be deathcore, structured in a way that breakdowns are used to add weight to the mix but not used as the foundation of the music.
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*yawn* Listened to the stream. Not that impressed. Low 7 or high 6 for me.
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Sync - 07.05.2012 at 20:45
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All I got was Brutal Death Metal mixed in with some bits of meloblack. Really nice album and has grown on me a hell of a lot.
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One of the best records I've heard this year, simply magnificant, I had been waiting for this one sooo much
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Written by Sync on 07.05.2012 at 20:45
...bits of meloblack...
Where? 
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Sync - 08.05.2012 at 02:10
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Bits from Kingdom of Tyrants for example. Would get the shiz but on
My phone atm ;/
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So until now, the music we're talking about in this comment section has been described as: deathgrind, goregrind, deathcore, technical deathgrind, brutal death metal and melodic black metal...... ehh, wow. 
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Well Cattle Decap have always been a grind band - their earlier material being more focused on gore themes, but always maintaining a deathgrind approach.
Void mentioned some deathcore elements in the use of breakdowns, which is inaccurate because deathcore's foundation is built on breakdowns, whereas death and grind breakdowns aren't the primary element in the music. The brutal death metal tag probably comes from the breakdowns as well, and the guttural vocals.
As for black metal... I honestly couldn't tell you. Sometimes Travis kind of shrieks? :/
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 08.05.2012 at 19:45
Well Cattle Decap have always been a grind band - their earlier material being more focused on gore themes, but always maintaining a deathgrind approach.
Void mentioned some deathcore elements in the use of breakdowns, which is inaccurate because deathcore's foundation is built on breakdowns, whereas death and grind breakdowns aren't the primary element in the music. The brutal death metal tag probably comes from the breakdowns as well, and the guttural vocals.
As for black metal... I honestly couldn't tell you. Sometimes Travis kind of shrieks? :/
maybe he meant the new "clean" vocals (i saw someone call them "pirate vocals" on some website... cattle decapitation/alestorm split anyone!?  )... they do have a somewhat eerie/dark quality to them.
but anyways, i found the overall sound of the album kinda... don't know how to describe it... high pitched? i don't know if it's the production or my headphones, but it can get somewhat annoying when played on high volume. that's the only thing i'm still confused about/getting used to, otherwise great album (i even like the pirate vocals).
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Sync - 09.05.2012 at 11:21
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Written by Iskander on 08.05.2012 at 20:48
"pirate vocals"
Uh wow, didn't know that's what some people called them . But those clean vocals I really like imo.
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Written by Sync on 09.05.2012 at 11:21
Written by Iskander on 08.05.2012 at 20:48
"pirate vocals"
Uh wow, didn't know that's what some people called them . But those clean vocals I really like imo.
haha, i can't remember where i read it, it's even possible it was here on metalstorm... and yeah, i like them aswell. some bands manage to put clean vocals in their music and stay brutal (fleshgod apocalypse is another example) and cattle decapitation did just that on this album, imho.
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I've just finished listening to this, and (whilst still picking my jaw and brains up off the floor!  ) I have no doubts at all, this one is going to be vying for my album of the year. It's rare for any new metal album to truly excite me, even if I love it, but this one genuinely floored me. The melodies are just outstanding, and they've been able to weld this, along with a great technical prowess, to pummeling, utterly vicious grind.
Travis Ryan's vocals are unbeliveable, his range as a death growler is immense, and his cleans are also unique. They have a very ethereal, but also thoroughly "unclean" quality to them. I'm not quite sure how I'd describe his melodic vocals!
It's a very refreshing grindcore release, which is such a rarity, and even more rare that they sound fresh without sacrificing one iota of intensity, mania, or aggression. Awesome stuff!
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Yeah, I've given it a few spins now. Cattle Decap is a great band and all, no doubt about their skill. But I like them better as Being Killed, and hopefully they release some more stuff with that band..
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| Rating: 9 |
So far, this is my favorite album of 2012.
This is more death metal than anything else. I can see it being labeled as deathgrind, which is accurate enough, but surely not grindcore. I don't get why so many people on this site have a hard time with grindcore.
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Written by Dangerboner on 24.05.2012 at 22:55
I don't get why so many people on this site have a hard time with grindcore.
When you say that you mean hard time as in "liking grindcore" or "Knowing the differences between grindcore and other genres like deathgrind"?
I didn't really dig this album, I dunno why. It just passed by and I didn't catch anything interesting. Oh well... I can't say it's a bad album though. It just didn't click with me.
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Calling Cattle Decapitation "deathgrind" instead of grindcore, is just arguing semantics really... "Necroticism..." by Carcass is a deathgrind album. There's more grind in Cattle Decapitation's latest than what was on that Carcass album. For me, MOI is a grind album with death metal elements. Sure, you can call that "deathgrind" if you want, but it still just comes down to semantics at the end of the day. If a band has to be equal parts death and equal parts grind to be classed as "deathgrind", then MOI doesn't really fit that category as it is primarily grind.
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Written by Angelic Storm on 25.05.2012 at 14:11
deathgrind
It's a hybrid of death and grind, which this album definitely is. The lengthier tracks, technical prowess, and guitar tuning all add to the album's death metal feel, while the spastic riffs and condensed compositions lend themselves to grind.
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I would certainly call this album deathgrind and not grindcore. About as much death as grind in here, maybe even a little more death than grind.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.05.2012 at 22:17
I would certainly call this album deathgrind and not grindcore. About as much death as grind in here, maybe even a little more death than grind.
I definitely feel more death than grind but we are talking about 60-40 ratio i think or at the very most 65-35.
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For me at least, the roots of almost all the album's tracks are in the grind genre. There's certainly a good dollop of technical death in there as well, but the raw, scathing chaos at the heart of most of tracks is definitely grind. The grind is the root from where the other aspects of the songs grow. For sure, I can see why some would hesitate in calling this a grind release, but I feel that at it's core, that's what it is. It's smart, intelligent grind for sure, but still grind nonetheless.
Anyhow, it can be hard making such a decisive judgement when trying to place an album in a sub-genre which is in itself, a derivative of a sub-genre.
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Written by Angelic Storm on 25.05.2012 at 23:34
Anyhow, it can be hard making such a decisive judgement when trying to place an album in a sub-genre which is in itself, a derivative of a sub-genre.
You're probably just stuck on the band playing (gore)grind in the past, similar to how people still refer to Dimmu Borgir as a symphonic black metal band in spite of their recent releases containing very few black metal elements.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.05.2012 at 23:41
You're probably just stuck on the band playing (gore)grind in the past, similar to how people still refer to Dimmu Borgir as a symphonic black metal band in spite of their recent releases containing very few black metal elements.
I was waiting for someone to say this... And whilst you are wrong, the point you raised isn't entirely an invalid one.
I'm not well versed in Dimmu Borgir's music, so cannot make a comment on the comparison you've attempted to draw there. However, I certainly do not hear "very few" goregrind elements in MOI. So I would say if what you are saying about Dimmu is true, then the comparison is quite a weak one. Whilst it's certainly not as primitive as their previous releases (apart from "The Harvest Floor" perhaps), the goregrind style is still very much a fundamental element in the new Cattle Decapitation. The death metal, and in particular, the technical death and melodic elements certainly gives the album a much more expansive, and cavernous atmosphere than their earlier, primitive works. But for at least the majority of this album, the goregrind aspect of their sound is never far from the surface, and rises to it on numerous ocassions.
I definitely see the point you're trying to make, and it's not without validation. However, I feel CD have not strayed far enough away from their original style to slap a whole new genre tag on them. I would not argue much with anyone wishing to call MOI "deathgrind" though, as I can see why some people would call it that.
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Written by Angelic Storm on 26.05.2012 at 00:03
I would not argue much with anyone wishing to call MOI "deathgrind" though, as I can see why some people would call it that.
I feel like it's a useless gesture trying to point out the obvious fact this is a deathgrind album to someone who continues to surround the genre name in quotations as if it's a word I just made up.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 26.05.2012 at 00:06
I feel like it's a useless gesture trying to point out the obvious fact this is a deathgrind album to someone who continues to surround the genre name in quotations as if it's a word I just made up.
Methinks you are being way too quick to jump to conclusions there matey. lol  I am perfectly aware that deathgrind is a real genre, I never suggested otherwise. You completely misinterpreted the reason why I put the word deathgrind in quotes.
But yes, of course it's an "obvious" fact, and I'm a halfwit for not realising it.
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Going down into semantic territory now deathgrind means most grind with some death in it. grinddeath however is primarily death with some grind in it. The right hand head rle applies here where the part furthest to the right determines the primary genre.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.05.2012 at 13:18
grinddeath
Except nobody calls it "grinddeath".
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 26.05.2012 at 13:24
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.05.2012 at 13:18
grinddeath
Except nobody calls it "grinddeath".
Mmmm people who are into semnantic do, just like there''s deathdoom and doomdeath (which also a lot of people make a difference between the two)
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.05.2012 at 13:25
Mmmm people who are into semnantic do, just like there''s deathdoom and doomdeath (which also a lot of people make a difference between the two)
No, it really is a totally irrelevant and unnecessary categorisation. The larger majority still don't even distinguish between doom/death and death/doom, and while I agree that distinction is useful that's only because death metal and doom and very different. Separately siphoning off bands that slightly favour either death or grind is an excercise ir personal wankery and pointlessness
BTW, I just did a search on here for "grinddeath" and these posts were the only ones that appeared, and nothing on google brings up any conversations of distinction which shows hoe no one else cares about separating the two.
You're making it up as you go along Marcel; like MoD territory like he did on the Monolith review
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 26.05.2012 at 13:40
No, it really is a totally irrelevant and unnecessary categorisation. The larger majority still don't even distinguish between doom/death and death/doom, and while I agree that distinction is useful that's only because death metal and doom and very different. Separately siphoning off bands that slightly favour either death or grind is an excercise ir personal wankery and pointlessness
I couldn't have put it any better myself. xD
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Written by Angelic Storm on 26.05.2012 at 14:31
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 26.05.2012 at 13:40
No, it really is a totally irrelevant and unnecessary categorisation. The larger majority still don't even distinguish between doom/death and death/doom, and while I agree that distinction is useful that's only because death metal and doom and very different. Separately siphoning off bands that slightly favour either death or grind is an excercise ir personal wankery and pointlessness
I couldn't have put it any better myself. xD
That applies to grinddeath though, certainly not Deathgrind which is what this guys are playing here.
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| Rating: 9 |
Biggest surprise for me so far this year. Picked it up this weekend and i am absolutely blown away
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| Rating: 10 |
Album of the year so far.
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| Rating: 10 |
One of the most interesting grind/death albums I have ever listened to. I hope they continue in this direction. For me this will most likely be the best death/grind album of the year.
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Lit. - 14.08.2012 at 02:00
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I'd like to know... Who does those awesome sounding vocals on songs like Lifestalker at 1:55?
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Sync - 14.08.2012 at 02:23
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Written by Lit. on 14.08.2012 at 02:00
I'd like to know... Who does those awesome sounding vocals on songs like Lifestalker at 1:55?
As far as I know it sounds like Travis, at least I think I'm 99% sure it's him.
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