06:45 - huascaman The EA sports NHL games are the best. \m/
06:29 - Unhealer Jaeryd17, agree Mass Effect is excellent. Also, I didn't mind the so-hated ending that much.
06:23 - BoxCar Willy I really only play Fallout. Ive beaten both at least 10 times, (new Vegas probably even more). They are just the best, they capture everything I love. They just need a metal soundtrack and dirtbikes. Lol.
06:20 - Jaeryd17 No best game series, I don't think... but Mass Effect comes incredibly close. Love me some Halo, Metroid, Zelda, Borderlands, Battlefield, and Elder Scrolls, though.
05:59 - psykometal I've done like dozens of playthroughs using the Oghma to level boost, to try out several different character builds (since there used to not be respec option), so I now I want to actually complete it, or come real close. :)
05:57 - psykometal I've been thinking about it. But I'm honestly still hooked on Skyrim. I've never actually completed the game. And since they recently unlocked the level cap and added Legendary, I have renewed interest in trying to complete it...
UPDATE on 17.07.2012: [Thanks to Ace Frawley] According to Czech news site iDNES.cz, a Prague Municipal Court has now dismissed the prosecutor's complaint to deny Blythe bail with the intent of blocking his release. However, the cost of Blythe's bail has been doubled, from $200,000 to $400,000. Moreover, the prosecutor can file another complaint against the latest decision, which would further delay Blythe's release even if he does pay the $400,000. So, there is no telling when this will stop.
Randy Blythe's next Czech court appearance is scheduled for Thursday, July 19th. Blesk.cz has also released an interview reportedly with Randy Blythe conducted via his attorney about his arrest last month and you can read the translation over here.
UPDATE on 06.07.2012:Lamb Of God singer Randy Blythe is still in prison even though his bail has been posted. The band's manager Larry Mazer revealed in an interview with Blesk.cz that it may take up to 20 days for Randy to be released because "the investigator may require more time to investigate the case." Meanwhile, the band has set up a page where fans can donate to Randy's legal fund.
Lamb Of God posted the following message: "As many of you know, Randy is being held in Czech jail for a crime we believe he did not commit. We are still learning about the legal system there and the situation is fluid. We have retained local legal counsel, have support from the US Embassy and we are flying over additional lawyers to try and assure that Randy has the best representation possible. As many of you have pointed out, the simple fact is that the legal fees are adding up very quickly."
"While we appreciate the outpouring of support, we are not interested in trying to profit or gather press or sympathy from this event. We have assembled this page to make it possible for people that feel so inclined to donate to the expenses incurred in defending this case. One hundred percent of the money raised will go to the legal fees and any remaining balance will be given to a charity of Randy's choice upon his release."
UPDATE on 02.07.2012: According to the Czech Republic's Novinky.cz, Lamb Of God singer Randy Blythe remained in custody Monday in Prague, as his bail money had not arrived in the court account, informed the judge of the District Court for Prague 8 Peter Fassati. Management is trying to transfer funds as soon as possible, although Blesk.cz is reporting that Blythe may remain in Pankrác prison at least ten more days.
UPDATE on 01.07.2012 [Thanks to Cynic Metalhead]: Czech website Blesk.cz and TV Nova report that Lamb Of God frontman Randy Blythe was reportedly released on 4 million Czech Koruna bail (approximately $200,000) from a Czech jail, where he had been held since Wednesday (June 27) on suspicion of manslaughter. Reports state that Blythe has been released on the condition that his bail be secured as soon as bank access allows, presumably on Monday (July 2nd).
Randy Blythe appeared before court yesterday at 10:00 a.m due to his alleged involvement in the death of a 19-year-old fan at a 2010 show in Prague. Randy was also considered a flight risk by the judge and will reportedly have to remain in the country at least for the next two days but the manslaughter charges haven't been dropped, and the investigation is still ongoing.
The following message was posted on the band's twitter: "RANDY IS FUCKIN' FREE!"
The band's guitarist Mark Morton tweeted: "finally HOME! 4/5 of us anyway. I can't wait to give Randy a big bear hug & kiss his pointy, stubbly face! Thanx for all the support yall!"
An official statement is expected to be released tomorrow with details about the proceedings.
UPDATE: Adrenaline PR, the PR firm that works with Lamb Of God, has released the following full statement regarding the reports of Randy's arrest: "Lamb Of God Management will be issuing an official statement on Monday regarding the charges made against singer Randy Blythe. As no formal charges have yet been made and the case is only in the investigation stages, it would be premature to make an official statement filled with false truths or innuendos."
"Having said that, management wished to address today one false piece of information that has been included in many of the news stories released so far. Under no circumstances was there a fight of any kind involved. This incident deals with a fan that three times during the concert jumped the barricade and rushed Randy during the performance. It is alleged that the third time, security was not able to reach him and that Randy pushed him back into the audience where supposedly he fell and hit his head."
"Again, until the investigation is concluded this weekend, nothing more will be released, but clarity and the facts needed to be addressed on this one reported point which is totally inaccurate."
Original news, published on 29.06.2012
According to Czech news site Novinky.cz, Lamb Of God vocalist Randy Blythe has been arrested in Prague yesterday on charges of manslaughter, and the band has cancelled their performance with All Shall Perish and Skeletonwitch at the Rock Café in Czech Republic.
Blythe's arrest apparently is from a concert that took place on May 24, 2010. Allegedly, a fan jumped on stage during the show, resulting in a physical altercation with the frontman. The fan eventually succumbed to his injuries and died, leading to the charges Blythe now faces.
A spokesperson for Lamb Of God says that Blythe is "wrongly accused", that the band's "lawyers are dealing with it", and that "we expect him to be fully exonerated."
Also, in the early hours of this morning the band tweeted "#FreeRandyBlythe".
This is the fan's fault. Regardless of what happened, you're not supposed to go on the stage for any reason whatsoever unless the band asks you to or something. It's unfortunate what happened to the kid, but Randy was just doing what pretty much every other person would do in that situation. You never know what someone's purpose is for coming onto the stage like that, and if security couldn't keep him off, Randy had a right to remove him. I don't even like Lamb of God that much, but Randy didn't do anything wrong, assuming the facts that have been revealed are the truth.
I've finally just now managed to read through all of the comments in this thread. I gotta say, good justification guys. To me, it came as quite the shock since I recently saw Lamb Of God live for the first time and they did an amazing job.
Regardless of what actually happened, I hope for a just outcome in the lawsuit. What I'd like to add here is that (as Troy has already mentioned) Randy was probably acting on instinct. I mean, srly - imagine yourself sitting on the bar at some local drinking your beer and all of a sudden, that crazy guy just jumps on you or something. It may not be the very same case but it is quite similar. Because one thing's for sure; it happened all of a sudden. Thus, I'm not convinced that Randy has had enough time to actually analyze the situation adequately. He acted unreasonably due to all the chaos going through his head around that time and his actions, seemingly, caused more trouble than they should have... I'm afraid he will indeed have to face a charge of some sort with serious consequences. If the boy's family is into the money, then there is still hope for Randy. Nevertheless, actions do speak for themselves. :/
I've been wondering, though... Isn't there any YouTube material from that night available?
And (last but not least,) I kinda wanna believe that Randy isn't guilty for some reason. I also truly hope that this news won't affect the band's career too much. After all, it's not all of them having been accused, so it would be a shame...
This is a really complex subject if you ask me. I think in the end we have to take responsibility for our actions. The poor guy died doing something stupid, but he could never predict he would die because of that, nor did Randy predicted he could kill him (directly or not).
I ask myself this question: did the victim deserved what he got? Simple answer is 'No'. Does Randy deserves what's (probably) coming? I'd say yes, if he was in fact responsible for it.
Written by Elodie Artour on 01.07.2012 at 03:21 According to the band's official Twitter page, Randy has been released already.
Great to hear and not at all a surprise. Especially considering their unofficial counterattack concerning the fan's behavior at the show.
It's all he said/she said until someone proves their case with a video of the event.
Precisely. I'm very happy about the news, too! However, I would still like to find appropriate videos of that event in order to actually -see- what happened.
As I read on metal injection, Randy may have thought of Dimebag when that fan kept rushing him. It's sad that he died, but he brought it upon himself.
It's not happening for the first time for Randy. It's just that, he freaked out horribly.
Matter of fact, this shit didn't happen after Dimebag-shoot-out scene, they're ample of events which occurs on-stage and honestly, its been controlled impressively.
Here it's Randy, who use to rant alot about music, music promotions, publicity or whatever, now all that shit burst on-stage and poorly it happened with that guy.
Written by Cathval on 29.06.2012 at 20:02 Randy should have considered whether his actions could lead to injury.
CASE CLOSED.
Randy was probably worried about what the fan was up to.
CASE DEBATABLE.
Hope the dick doesn't try to hide behind his fan popularity. I swear, people seem to think that if people "don't want him to be in jail" then he shouldn't be held accountable or responsible for his actions. That's passing judgment on the kid. You can theoretically say all you want that "he was defending himself", "he reacted instinctively", "don't fuck with the metalheads" or any other bullshit you can throw into the argument. It is rather opinionated of anyone to claim he had the right to push the kid. Point of the matter is that someone is dead because he pushed him.
Was security at fault? Possibly. But you don't just randomly decide to physically assault someone for merely jumping on a stage.
Still, because he has backing, money, and the metal press, he'll probably get off for it. Another Micheal Jackson incident here, is what this is.
Another Micheal Jackson incident here, is what this is.
Except MJ's doctor got 4 years in prison, so clearly not the same.
I agree with Marcel, if he got on the stage 3 times then I doubt he had much other choice of action. What was he supposed to do, stop the show and politely ask him to stop what he was doing? No, it was a shitty accident that's all. If the kid had survived we wouldn't have heard anything about this, apart from him trying to sue the band and failing.
No. I speak of how he got off his CHILD MOLESTATION charges because of his rampant fame.
To me this sounds like you have a major knee-jerk reaction to any "celebrity" (Randy being barely a z-list one at that - if you think he carries as much power as MJ you're clearly delusional and paranoid; the courts don't give a flying fuck about some metal band member they've never heard of) who have charges brought against them; you sound pretty poisoned by the media, clearly quite happy to buy into any conspiracy. I'm guessing you think the US was reponsible for 9/11 too? I've seen shit loads of band members shove morons off the stage, just because none of those incidents ended in a death doesn't mean to say he should be treated differently just because he was doing what anyone else would have done, not punishing them for other's incessant recklessness and stupidity.
No. I speak of how he got off his CHILD MOLESTATION charges because of his rampant fame.
To me this sounds like you have a major knee-jerk reaction to any "celebrity" (Randy being barely a z-list one at that - if you think he carries as much power as MJ you're clearly delusional and paranoid; the courts don't give a flying fuck about some metal band member they've never heard of) who have charges brought against them; you sound pretty poisoned by the media, clearly quite happy to buy into any conspiracy. I'm guessing you think the US was reponsible for 9/11 too? I've seen shit loads of band members shove morons off the stage, just because none of those incidents ended in a death doesn't mean to say he should be treated differently just because he was doing what anyone else would have done, not punishing them for other's incessant recklessness and stupidity.
You are misconstruing my facts.
I was SPEAKING of how there is a fanbase set in place to get him free regardless if he is guilty or not. Whether or not he makes as much money as MJ is irrelevant. His fanbase argument is thrown out as well.
IT'S ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WANT HIM FREE IF HE HAD DONE THE WRONG THING. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
IT'S ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WANT HIM FREE IF HE HAD DONE THE WRONG THING. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
I reamain of the opinion that shoving the guy was NOT the wrong thing to do, but totally the right thing, since the guy had already climbed on stage a couple of times before and KNEW he wasn't allowed there.
I was SPEAKING of how there is a fanbase set in place to get him free regardless if he is guilty or not. Whether or not he makes as much money as MJ is irrelevant. His fanbase argument is thrown out as well.
IT'S ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WANT HIM FREE IF HE HAD DONE THE WRONG THING. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
I'm not misconstruing anything:
Quote: Randy should have considered whether his actions could lead to injury.
Quote: Hope the dick doesn't try to hide behind his fan popularity.
Prejudgment on your part on the latter statement there.
First you cite a clear disdain and bias toward the singer, now you're shifting your argument toward the fan reaction. Two entirely separate issues. It's clear from the beginning that there was evidence pointing toward his innocence which may go far in explaining the fan reaction.
The point is that you seem to think a handful of people hashtagging something on Twitter has some kind of influence over court proceedings. If you want to complain about fans that's fine, but don't confuse the issue.
No. I speak of how he got off his CHILD MOLESTATION charges because of his rampant fame.
To me this sounds like you have a major knee-jerk reaction to any "celebrity" (Randy being barely a z-list one at that - if you think he carries as much power as MJ you're clearly delusional and paranoid; the courts don't give a flying fuck about some metal band member they've never heard of) who have charges brought against them; you sound pretty poisoned by the media, clearly quite happy to buy into any conspiracy. I'm guessing you think the US was reponsible for 9/11 too? I've seen shit loads of band members shove morons off the stage, just because none of those incidents ended in a death doesn't mean to say he should be treated differently just because he was doing what anyone else would have done, not punishing them for other's incessant recklessness and stupidity.
You are misconstruing my facts.
I was SPEAKING of how there is a fanbase set in place to get him free regardless if he is guilty or not. Whether or not he makes as much money as MJ is irrelevant. His fanbase argument is thrown out as well.
IT'S ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WANT HIM FREE IF HE HAD DONE THE WRONG THING. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
I highly doubt the LoG Fanbase is large enough to "get him free".
I was SPEAKING of how there is a fanbase set in place to get him free regardless if he is guilty or not. Whether or not he makes as much money as MJ is irrelevant. His fanbase argument is thrown out as well.
IT'S ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WANT HIM FREE IF HE HAD DONE THE WRONG THING. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
I'm not miscontruding anything:
Quote: Randy should have considered whether his actions could lead to injury.
Quote: Hope the dick doesn't try to hide behind his fan popularity.
Prejudgment on your part on the latter statement there.
First you cite a clear disdain and bias toward the singer, now you're shifting your argument toward the fan reaction. Two entirely separate issues. It's clear from the beginning that there was evidence pointing toward his innocence which may go far in explaining the fan reaction.
The point is that you seem to think a handful of people hashtagging something on Twitter has some kind of influence over court proceedings. If you want to complain about fans that's fine, but don't confuse the issue.
Straw man.
I hold no disdain towards the singer. Solely towards his actions and the injustice of it all. "Right to defend" means backing up, sizing up the situation, using discernible judgment, and not merely shoving a kid because he is physically on a stage.
Twitter has power. It can make entire people do illogical, reasonless things. The power of media.
No. I speak of how he got off his CHILD MOLESTATION charges because of his rampant fame.
To me this sounds like you have a major knee-jerk reaction to any "celebrity" (Randy being barely a z-list one at that - if you think he carries as much power as MJ you're clearly delusional and paranoid; the courts don't give a flying fuck about some metal band member they've never heard of) who have charges brought against them; you sound pretty poisoned by the media, clearly quite happy to buy into any conspiracy. I'm guessing you think the US was reponsible for 9/11 too? I've seen shit loads of band members shove morons off the stage, just because none of those incidents ended in a death doesn't mean to say he should be treated differently just because he was doing what anyone else would have done, not punishing them for other's incessant recklessness and stupidity.
You are misconstruing my facts.
I was SPEAKING of how there is a fanbase set in place to get him free regardless if he is guilty or not. Whether or not he makes as much money as MJ is irrelevant. His fanbase argument is thrown out as well.
IT'S ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WANT HIM FREE IF HE HAD DONE THE WRONG THING. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
I highly doubt the LoG Fanbase is large enough to "get him free".
I hold no disdain towards the singer. Solely towards his actions and the injustice of it all. "Right to defend" means backing up, sizing up the situation, using discernible judgment, and not merely shoving a kid because he is physically on a stage.
Twitter has power. It can make entire people do illogical, reasonless things. The power of media.
Yeah ok then, Fox Mulder.
The manslaughter charges were dropped in a day, that shows what a flimsy case they had against him from the start. You sound like you want a pound of flesh, little more.
Quote: But the metal fanbase is.
You are quite clearly delusional if you think that. Please stop talking about "facts" if you're going to use nonsense like that.
I hold no disdain towards the singer. Solely towards his actions and the injustice of it all. "Right to defend" means backing up, sizing up the situation, using discernible judgment, and not merely shoving a kid because he is physically on a stage.
Twitter has power. It can make entire people do illogical, reasonless things. The power of media.
Yeah ok then, Fox Mulder.
The manslaughter charges were dropped in a day, that shows what a flimsy case they had against him from the start. You sound like you want a pound of flesh, little more.
I didn't realise I needed to present an argument when all you have done is throw around paranoid media conspiracy drivel and misguided, out of context ethics, devoid of fact or basis.
The investigation is still ongoing of course, it would be negligent to dismiss it so quickly.
So fucking hilarious thinking that the metal fanbase has power over court.
Never said they held power over court.
I did however, mention that anything, at any given time, can steamroll and turn into that over time. That's the point. Unintelligent, misinformed human beings can make decisions based upon their media perceptions. This has been seen and proven time and time again.
I didn't realise I needed to present an argument when all you have done is throw around paranoid media conspiracy drivel and misguided, out of context ethics, devoid of fact or basis.
The investigation is still ongoing of course, it would be negligent to dismiss it so quickly.
You've thrown out the fact that it is an ongoing case a few posts ago.
Edit - Not to mention your post was erroneous. However, you seem to want it to appear as such. Terrible of you, sir.
Dunno if this has been posted yet but here's the supposed, alleged video of the event. If this is the incident in question then the primary responsibility appears to lie on the shoulders of the security guard (unless Randy was on PCP and can throw a guy off a stage with his weak hand):
The video clearly displays, that Randy barely pushes the man with his left hand, while the security guard or whoever that was did the main part of the "job" there.
Dunno if this has been posted yet but here's the supposed, alleged video of the event. If this is the incident in question then the primary responsibility appears to lie on the shoulders of the security guard (unless Randy was on PCP and can throw a guy off a stage with his weak hand):
MMmm, and even the security guard doesn't do anything out of the ordinary and is very mild tbh. This is the sort of throw you get here when the guards help you stage dive and those pushes are usually way more sever than this one.
Man that's rough. Anytime someone who isn't meant to be on stage gets on there, they're asking to get hurt. If this guy really did attempt 3 times knowing he wasn't meant to be, he had it coming. I wonder how the whole thing played out though. I've seen Randy manhandle people before, but it was never with malicious intent. I think it's a failure on the security's part.
Whether security were doing their job properly or not is irrelevant. A kid died from injuries he got while being thrown off the stage. Sure, the guy was a dick for rushing up onto the stage three times. Sure, he shouldn't have been there. But whichever way you cut it, someone threw him off that stage and that ended up costing the kid his life. It's pretty harsh to say the kid had it coming to him. If people deserved to die for being a tool there'd be none of us left.
So yeah, the police are looking into whether Randy played a part in it. If he did, then he should bear that responsibility.
It's kind of like if there's somebody on your property, you're allowed to throw them off. Or if someone hops your fence when there is a "beware of dog" sign, and gets mauled by dogs. There has to be a certain personal responsibilty with your own health. Not only that but it's not like he was just up there to headbang a bit, then stagedive. Look at the video, he was behind the drumkit. Who knows what he was doing. I'd rather security didn't take that risk. It's not like it would be hard to bring in a weapon into a venue, it's happened before.
Security's job is to keep the band members, crew members, and yes, the fans, safe. It's their responsibility to keep fans off the stage and get them off the stage. Not only for the bands safety, but for the fans as well. In this instance, the safest thing for the band and crew was to get the fan off the stage. Do you think they should've just let him carry on? What if he stumbled into Mark and bumped him offstage? What if he had a weapon? Why not let every fan go up there and hang around? I think anyone who's gone to a few concerts has seen some instance of a fan being tossed off the stage, or forcefully stopped from going onto the stage.
If you want to see what hppened that night, heres a link. The second video is the one that shows when Randy pushed the fan away. http://wtvr.com/2012/07/02/lamb-of-god-singer-randy-blythe-in-jail-for-10-more-days/
However, I would still like to find appropriate videos of that event in order to actually -see- what happened.
