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  15.03.2013 at 09:04
Written by Bad English on 15.03.2013 at 02:09

Written by R Lewis on 13.03.2013 at 21:46

Man the new Pope is damn swag


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Oh my.....what on earth could that mean?!
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  20.03.2013 at 12:28
It simply means that the poster is deranged.
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  31.03.2013 at 22:53
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Written by K†ulu on 29.03.2013 at 10:29

By the way, I wonder what your faith is...

My faith is non-denominational Christian so I follow my own personal interpretation of Christianity, not what some priest or pastor tells me I should believe or follow lest I go to Hell for all eternity.



Written by psykometal on 31.03.2013 at 09:32

Written by Edmund Fogg on 31.03.2013 at 06:59

Isn't that agnostic rather then full blown christianity?

Sort of. Straight agnosticism is when you're not sure of what to believe and you acknowledge that there may or may not be something out there in the form of a higher power and therefore don't really conform or claim to worship/follow any specific deity or religion. What you're referring to is agnostic theism in which one believes in something (whether it be a single deity or multiple deities depends on the person in question) but still isn't entirely sure what to believe about that deity or deities and how that deity or deities actually operates.

I guess you could say I'm an agnostic [theistic] Christian because I do believe in God and Christ but I'm not entirely sure what to believe with regards to how God actually is and I prefer not to assume he is the "stringent asshole" that a lot of Christians can make him out to be. I have always found it odd and ridiculous that a lot of Christians say he is a forgiving God but then turn around and say that God will damn people like me who choose to have premarital sex and curse/swear to Hell for all eternity for our sins. I prefer to think that God will look at the sum of a person's actions as a whole throughout their lives and pass judgement based on our actions as a whole rather than just damning us to Hell because you made a few bad/poor choices in life.


Judging by the descriptions above, it is no big deal to conclude that you do not believe in Christianity. You talk about "interpretation of Christianity" and what you "prefer to think" about God. Christianity is believing that Christ died for you sins, accepting his sacrifice personally, building a relationship with Him while obeying his commandments, and staying loyal to the end (death).

As far as pastors or priests, they are instruments in God's hands to lead churches and educate people in the dogmas of Christianity, but also to inspire and support. They are not there to tell you will go to Hell. Also a church of people is needed for Christians to share their faith, their hardships, testimonies, and again inspire others. It is a place of common prayer, where the Holy Spirit acts in a special way "For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I [Christ] among them." In other words, it is impossible to be a Christian without a (local) church, and it is only normal to have such a community. You love metal, that is why hang around on Metal Storm and other fellow metalheads. You love God, you go hang out with other people who love God.
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  13.11.2013 at 14:59
Why he is not a christian?
He is saying that he believes in Christ, okay not in a church.
But there are many christians who dont suppor the actions of a church, i can understand that because of the history.

And second God is judging the hearts of ours not the people here
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  18.01.2015 at 17:22
What is origin of 7 deadly sins, basically of this number idea ?
7 dead lu sins, 7 ancient seas, hmm if someone put curse on you it can go up to next 7 generations, same I heard some woman told, those who have no children be curses 7 genetions backwards

what is whit this 7? where it come from,?
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  18.01.2015 at 18:28
Seven is a pretty common number in ancient tradition. Some will probably tell you that there is some hidden numerological significance or a meaningful connection between different instances of the number. But personally, I don't buy that shit. There are plenty of other frequently appearing numbers, too. Three, nine, twelve etc. Some of it is no doubt just tradition - medieval authors liked to list things in threes just because it was the literary custom, without any single deep reason for it. And some of it is common sense/connection between the inherent qualities of the number and human psychology. That seven is a prime number may have something to do with it, for example.

Old cultures in general liked to make lists. That it happens to be precisely 7 sins you need to beware of is part coincidence, part literary tradition (the contents of the seven sins were modified by Gregory and reinterpreted later, but the number remained the same). The reason for lists is that it's easier to memorize in a predominantly oral, illiterate culture, that it's probably easy to comprehend pyschologically when it's laid out in clear order, and (I suspect) because it was a way of structuring your writing at a time when things like punctuation and paragraphs were irregular and often not used at all.

Seven deadly sins, though, in the version they came to be recognized in Latin Christianity, come from pope Gregory the Great's (540-604) work, which was itself a modification of an earlier list.

If anyone tries to give you a simple, conclusive answer to the question, they're bullshitting you or buying into some sensationalist TV documentary ("the secret of seven revealed!").
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  18.01.2015 at 20:35
Written by IronAngel on 18.01.2015 at 18:28

Seven is a pretty common number in ancient tradition. Some will probably tell you that there is some hidden numerological significance or a meaningful connection between different instances of the number. But personally, I don't buy that shit. There are plenty of other frequently appearing numbers, too. Three, nine, twelve etc. Some of it is no doubt just tradition - medieval authors liked to list things in threes just because it was the literary custom, without any single deep reason for it. And some of it is common sense/connection between the inherent qualities of the number and human psychology. That seven is a prime number may have something to do with it, for example.

Old cultures in general liked to make lists. That it happens to be precisely 7 sins you need to beware of is part coincidence, part literary tradition (the contents of the seven sins were modified by Gregory and reinterpreted later, but the number remained the same). The reason for lists is that it's easier to memorize in a predominantly oral, illiterate culture, that it's probably easy to comprehend pyschologically when it's laid out in clear order, and (I suspect) because it was a way of structuring your writing at a time when things like punctuation and paragraphs were irregular and often not used at all.

Seven deadly sins, though, in the version they came to be recognized in Latin Christianity, come from pope Gregory the Great's (540-604) work, which was itself a modification of an earlier list.

If anyone tries to give you a simple, conclusive answer to the question, they're bullshitting you or buying into some sensationalist TV documentary ("the secret of seven revealed!").


another evidence that Christianity has deeper pagan roots and seems most are stolen , I am not expert in hebru, arab nation history, but Europe - paganisnm, I know a lot and same whit Christianity seems its stolen , most things
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  18.01.2015 at 20:59
I am not sure how you read that from my reply. That it is common to human culture at a certain period, even common to human nature perhaps, to make lists and ennumerate things and that seven happens to be a convenient number, does not imply any kind of "stealing". It's just common sense.

How could any literary tradition, religion or school of thought remain immune and detached from the society and culture around it? In this, Christianity is no different from any religion, and no biblical scholar would deny the influence of several strands of religious practice and thought on Christianity.

In defining the seven deadly sins, the Christian authors were quite unique and original. There is much continuity between Judaism and Christianity on the one hand, and Greek philosophy and Christianity on the other, but early Christian authors did make novel contributions to mainstream thought and ethics. You won't find an equivalent list of seven vices from Greek philosophy, for example. Compare Gregory to Aristotle, and you'll see plenty of difference. The sin of pride, or of spiritual sloth, are not something mainstream pagan culture would have readily understood and condemned, for example.
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  22.01.2015 at 10:15
Written by Bad English on 18.01.2015 at 20:35

Written by IronAngel on 18.01.2015 at 18:28

Seven is a pretty common number in ancient tradition. Some will probably tell you that there is some hidden numerological significance or a meaningful connection between different instances of the number. But personally, I don't buy that shit. There are plenty of other frequently appearing numbers, too. Three, nine, twelve etc. Some of it is no doubt just tradition - medieval authors liked to list things in threes just because it was the literary custom, without any single deep reason for it. And some of it is common sense/connection between the inherent qualities of the number and human psychology. That seven is a prime number may have something to do with it, for example.

Old cultures in general liked to make lists. That it happens to be precisely 7 sins you need to beware of is part coincidence, part literary tradition (the contents of the seven sins were modified by Gregory and reinterpreted later, but the number remained the same). The reason for lists is that it's easier to memorize in a predominantly oral, illiterate culture, that it's probably easy to comprehend pyschologically when it's laid out in clear order, and (I suspect) because it was a way of structuring your writing at a time when things like punctuation and paragraphs were irregular and often not used at all.

Seven deadly sins, though, in the version they came to be recognized in Latin Christianity, come from pope Gregory the Great's (540-604) work, which was itself a modification of an earlier list.

If anyone tries to give you a simple, conclusive answer to the question, they're bullshitting you or buying into some sensationalist TV documentary ("the secret of seven revealed!").


another evidence that Christianity has deeper pagan roots and seems most are stolen , I am not expert in hebru, arab nation history, but Europe - paganisnm, I know a lot and same whit Christianity seems its stolen , most things


Like everything in christianity is stolen.. Most of the holidays mean something in paganism.. Christianity is a religion of lies..
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  18.04.2015 at 02:53
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2014/06/st-louis-archbishop-claims-he-wasnt-sure-it-was-illegal-for-priests-to-have-sex-with-kids/



sex before marriage , whit prostitute and use condom is sin, but children is not .... people whit good education, retards cant be priests , its long and hard education, don't know it...
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