Pornography and prostitution
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Posted by Account deleted, 11.11.2006 - 14:17
the same with pornography. people say "men learn to see women as objects". well, i admit that i've watched porn, but that doesnt make me look at women as objects. its still supply and demand. people are willing to expose themselves on the camera, and people are willing to pay to see the movies.
as long as no one gets hurt, it should be legal
am i right? what do you think?
Grody2themax |
08.12.2011 - 07:39
Prostitution should be legal - It would make it more safe since the business would move to real businesses which would have to practice safe standards - less rape But then, I can see a bunch of middle aged men becoming addicted to brothels and wasting all their money on them.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Staff |
08.12.2011 - 07:40 Written by Grody2themax on 08.12.2011 at 07:39 Which, if taxed by the government, could be good for the economy. Kind of like legalizing and taxing marijuana.
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Cynic Metalhead Paisa Vich Nasha |
01.04.2012 - 20:16
Should be viably legal in every country. One of the best business a visions and mission had. great strategies are always executed and positioning of their will/ wants are nicely positioned in the customers mind.
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R'Vannith ghedengi Elite |
02.04.2012 - 05:35 Written by Grody2themax on 08.12.2011 at 07:39 This pretty much sums up my opinion. Way back in the Middle Ages even the Catholic Church endorsed, yes that's right endorsed, prostitution. It was gravely frowned upon as wicked and sinful but it was considered a necessity by the church to allow for this sinful behavior to occur rather than let randy men go about violating respectable women. It was a necessary evil. While rape is far less likely nowadays I can't see why prostitution shouldn't be legal.
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Grody2themax |
02.04.2012 - 07:27 Written by R'Vannith on 02.04.2012 at 05:35 I think the main problem lies in much of societies childish view on sex. As if sex itself is taboo, and not natural. Why does anyone care if person x's genitals are inserted somewhere in person y, under y's consent for money. I'm guessing most gov't officials and cops would pay for sex from a hot chick if they knew they would get away with it lol. I'm not saying I'd hold high respect for those associated with prostitution though. But, I'm not sure I'd call it a necessary "evil" either.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Staff |
02.04.2012 - 16:58 Written by Grody2themax on 02.04.2012 at 07:27 Not all of society's view. Sex sells: It's marketed to everyone and their dog, yet when you want to go have sex, you have to play by all these rules. Rules that are in no way shape or form clearly presented during these little marketing campaigns. It's something of a "porn trap", only the people who are outside of the "trap" go extreme-overboard with their attempts to make the world a "clean and safe place".
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R'Vannith ghedengi Elite |
03.04.2012 - 07:35 Written by Grody2themax on 02.04.2012 at 07:27 Oh I didn't mean to say I thought it is a necessary evil in today's context, should have made that clear I guess. Anyway I just think its interesting that even though prostitution is neither necessary nor evil it still proves a problematic point of discussion and an issue in modern society. It's as if we still carry with us that inherent notion from a millenia ago that it is sinful and wicked and contradictory to good morals. And given the increased lack of necessity for it it seems to be more and more of an issue.
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GrayWiZZarD Account deleted |
13.06.2012 - 13:50 GrayWiZZarD
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I totally agree with you man.... as long as no one is forced to do something they dont want to do its OK.
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Infernal Eternal |
27.06.2012 - 13:23
Here in Greece prostitution is legal, although in Athens and the province of Attica, only 14 of the estimated 400 whorehouses are legal. Prostitution is the most ancient job, it should be protected. Porn is also legal and as long as nobody gets hurt, it's also good and approved by me. Feminists are always arguing that men learn to seee women as objects through porn but we see them as objects anyway. This is one of the feminists that were totally against pornography:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Dworkin The conclusion is yours. All feminists are that way.
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tuerda Posts: 203 |
19.08.2012 - 03:44
There is a very serious problem with prostitution. Prostitutes are routinely abused, and beaten, both by clients and also by pimps. Many live in disgustingly dirty brothels, and there are raging STDs. The main reason for this problem, however, is that prostitution is illegal. If a prostitute is abused, there is nowhere she can turn to for help, because rather than protect them, we label them as criminals. Prostitution per se does not necessarily harm anyone, but like anything that is forced to operate in secret, abuse becomes the norm, thus causing quite a bit of harm. Legalized, regulated, protected prostitution would be a very good step towards mending quite a bit of that harm. Take prostitution off the streets! Give prostitutes medical insurance and STD tests; give them proper salaries; give them their own bedrooms equipped with security cameras! Legalizing prostitution is more than just a good idea: It is imperative! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have less to say about porn.
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Fredd Account deleted |
19.08.2012 - 05:56 Fredd
Account deleted Written by tuerda on 19.08.2012 at 03:44 Basically what I came here to say.
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ThunderAxe1989 Account deleted |
12.10.2012 - 04:54 ThunderAxe1989
Account deleted .......I couldn't have expressed it any better, It's safe to say that I don't want to live on this planet anymore
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no one Account deleted |
14.11.2012 - 21:54 no one
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I haven't bothered to read the last 20 pages,but my opinion is that i don't think prostitution is really that good. Had a mate with a low self esteem, he would always end up at the whore house when on the piss.He wasn't very good at scoring chicks and it seemed he would give up trying and just go to the whore house. At first it was the very last option on the odd occasion,then it seemed to be every time and eventually he would barley try to score and just go straight to the whore house early.It ain't right for (at the time) a 23 year old. Most of these chicks are on drugs and and a bit dead inside,so instead of facing there problems and resuming a more happy stable life, its an easy quick option,a bit of cash for a hit of whatever to numb the pain. Porn on the other hand is a hole different story,and a bit more appropriate.Keep the age your watching and the amount your watching in balance and its not too bad.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund |
15.10.2013 - 16:50 Written by Guest on 14.11.2012 at 21:54 Well I dont kmow, as far i heard and read and doc matherials all males get more then ordinary porn actreses, maybe stars real PORN stars like Laura St Clair, Tracy Adams, Laura Angel, Sandra Russo, Anita Blond and Dark , maybe but ordinary girls who take part at some movies no way
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3rdWorld China was a neat |
03.11.2013 - 05:09 Written by Guest on 14.11.2012 at 21:54 Isn't that why prostitution is needed exactly? I bet he would've been even more depressed if he didn't get atleast that.
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no one Account deleted |
07.11.2013 - 10:39 no one
Account deleted Written by 3rdWorld on 03.11.2013 at 05:09 No he would have had to sort out his social anxiety so he could learn to talk to woman.
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Warman Erotic Stains |
10.11.2013 - 21:00 Written by Guest on 07.11.2013 at 10:39 Absolutely. Prostitution needed because there's dudes out there with low self esteem? I don't think so. It's like you're saying, he need to sort his problem. To pay women for sex will probably just make it worse, it won't help him in the long run at least. But I really don't know where I stand on the whole prostitution question. I would never pay for something like that, although I don't really look down on those who do. It's illegal here in Sweden, but it of course exist to some extent. Would it be better if it was legal and they paid their taxes? Maybe. The downside with prostitution and the whole moral question is what troubles me. There's no denying that many (probably the majority) are forced in to the (often shitty) business.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund |
12.11.2013 - 01:33 Written by Warman on 10.11.2013 at 21:00 illigal is to buy not sell it I never have bought and pay anyway but I am getting older sometimes there to chances if I am tired, fuck someone or get drunk, but at cold winter night whisky is more what heals me (in one of those real cold nights and when there no sunlight ) I think at todays economial situation it would be good if it would be legal and prostitutes pay taxes, but it must be free from abuse, pimps, gang controlled and women must do it free, but still moral side , anyway if woman chose do it frealy better make it legal whit taxes then elegal, old bil has better things to do then hunt buyers (well beavis n butthead once try get leid whit whore, they said:'' ghh ghh haaha I want ghaa X200 I want ghahaha.'' and cops at wain, c mon idiots say it, and cop ''whore'' also was pissed when they cant say what theyw ant ;OL
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no one Account deleted |
12.11.2013 - 07:26 no one
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It's legal here, it's the main advertisement in the classifieds in the daily news the government is even giving the go ahead for a 15 story brothel/hotel in Auckland. Now the rich businessmen and politicians who travel here have a place to stay and cheat on there wives.
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Warman Erotic Stains |
12.11.2013 - 14:40 Written by Bad English on 12.11.2013 at 01:33 Haha,I fucking hate whenever anyone use that statement. Which often happens. What's it supposed to mean? Yeah, I know it's illegal to buy, not to sell. But if you're not allowed to buy, then you aren't supposed to sell. Me: "Well, it's a good thing prostitution is illegal here." The other one: "It's illegal to pay for sex, not to sell sex!" Me: "Uhm, yeah, so what's your point?" Every time.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund |
12.11.2013 - 18:28 Written by Warman on 12.11.2013 at 14:40 I agree but I think goverment made it suych law, because some people maybe are needs to get money and if sell it would be banned it would be discrimnination, I herad such hink at komvux, but I agree whats the point of it there are 2 ways illigal both or legalize both,
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Vombatus Potorro |
12.11.2013 - 19:38 Written by Warman on 12.11.2013 at 14:40 It just means that only the guy buying the services of a prostitute can get legally sanctioned. Anyway, it's not even an argument in favor of prostitution, more like a disuassive clause without making the activity fully illegal.... No idea why people always bring that up
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Warman Erotic Stains |
12.11.2013 - 21:30 Written by Vombatus on 12.11.2013 at 19:38 Exactly, it's not there in favor of prostitution. But people always want to bring it up. I guess it's there because it somehow protects a person (whose selling sex) who probably already is in a shitty situation. It's still has nothing to do with a statement such as "prostitution is illegal", unless someone wants to go deeper on the subject. They never do though, it's more of a smart ass comment from people.
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DyingWorld |
27.11.2013 - 21:48
I really don't see what the fuss is all about. If some guy can't get laid without paying then let him get a prostitute. What's it to anyone else? It's none of your business what other people do, so long as they aren't hurting you or anyone else. It's better than him going out and raping some poor woman in a dark alley. If we had professional brothels with decent security to keep the prostitutes safe then all would be fine. It's really quite silly if you think about it. You can go to a strip club and have a girl grind her bare ass on your crotch but it's illegal to pay for sex? I blame religion for making society so sexually conservative and in turn, putting up unnecessary laws that restrict people from doing harmless acts that give them pleasure. All because it's supposedly immoral, according to their outdated, ancient scripture. It's so embedded into people's minds that sex is such a dirty thing when it's not. It's perfectly natural and it's why we're all here. Every individual has a right to their own sexual gratification so long as the other party is consenting to it. It doesn't matter if it's free or otherwise, let people have their fun. If you don't want to have sex with a prostitute, you don't have to but don't act as if you're any better than someone who does. The same goes for all of this unnecessary shame that is attached to sex, especially when it concerns women. I hate how women are treated as if they're lower than garbage because she might be single and having fun with a different guy every week. If it was a man, he'd be commended among his own gender. As for pornography, I've watched my fair share. With a little common sense and discussion about boundaries with your partner, it's how you learn to fuck in the first place. I don't see women as objects for my own sexual desires despite the fact that I have my fetishes. I'm pretty sure those individuals that objectify women were already misogynists before they started watching porn. Unfortunately, there's always going to be a few bad apples but don't go blaming porn for it.
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no one Account deleted |
28.11.2013 - 06:20 no one
Account deleted Written by DyingWorld on 27.11.2013 at 21:48 I think your wrong about how it doesn't harm anyone, do you think these girls enjoy there life ? do you think having to fuck some old crusty dude does't harm there self respect/self esteem ? Have you actually talked to any of these girls ? A lot of the time they have been sexually abused and most of the time have drug addictions. I have fucked them before when drunk and a lot of the time you can see how dead inside they are when you look in there eyes. And yeah yeah, no shame, get over it, who cares, but then it's quite shameful if your wife or any family member finds out you have fucked a whore, they will look at you from a new psychological/moral view
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DyingWorld |
28.11.2013 - 10:10 Written by Guest on 28.11.2013 at 06:20 Psychological harm is different from what I was getting at. I know not all of them enjoy their job and suffer as a result, which is sad of course. However, that doesn't mean it should be illegal either. If they have no where else to turn, making their last resort a criminal act isn't going to make their lives any easier. Plus, I don't think the law has the right to tell people what their best interests are. Adults can make their own decisions, even if they're only harming themselves in the end. Personally, I've never had to fuck a prostitute but if I did, I can't see how my wife or family would ever find out. I see it as rather insignificant and thus not worth bringing up for that reason alone.
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28.11.2013 - 10:25 no one
Account deleted Written by DyingWorld on 28.11.2013 at 10:10 You really think that's were there best interests are ? It basically is legal here which encourages an easy option, which encourages carrying on drug addictions as an easy option might go in one day and see your daughter.....or your mum
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DyingWorld |
28.11.2013 - 20:53 Written by Guest on 28.11.2013 at 10:25 I never said that's where their best interests are. What I said is the law shouldn't tell anyone what their best interests are by making certain things illegal, be it drugs or prostitution. I wouldn't let emotion override principle if that were the case. Of course, I'd be very concerned for them if they were in a bad spot. Because they are loved ones, I would do whatever I could to help them out if they didn't want to go through with it but in the end, it is their right to do as they please with their own bodies.
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