Rolling Stone's Top 100 Metal Albums of All Time
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Posted by Account deleted, 22.06.2017 - 01:11
I personally don't like it. The ranking is all over the place, and it left out a ton of stuff. I understand more extreme and undergroung releases logically wouldn't make it into a list by Rolling Stone, but I guess I just expected something a little better. It seems like they put no time or thought into the order.
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Metren Dreadrealm |
Written by Jaeryd on 29.06.2017 at 07:00 Evanescence are neither metal nor goth based on the tracks I've heard, just boring lame alt. rock. Gothic rock would be something like London After Midnight, Bauhaus, early The Cure etc.
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nikarg Staff |
Written by Metren on 30.06.2017 at 00:50 Exactly. You can also add The Sisters of Mercy, Fields of the Nephilim, Siouxsie & The Banshees, Joy Division and The Mission Evanescence are headlining (!) a festival here the day after tomorrow with Gojira, Paradise Lost, Anathema, Epica and others playing before them. How ridiculous is that?
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Darkside Momo Retired Elite |
30.06.2017 - 03:14 Written by nikarg on 30.06.2017 at 01:58 well, seeing this kind of stuff is generally based on total album sells, Evanescence who got large radio/TV playtime and coverage do get the cake...
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Written by Darkside Momo on 30.06.2017 at 03:14 Yes I understand. Still I can't see how Evanescence can be anything more than the soundtrack for lame vampire films for teenagers like Twilight.
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30.06.2017 - 17:32 VIG
Account deleted Written by tea[m]ster on 29.06.2017 at 23:25 Ironically that's the only Isis album I've ever heard
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30.06.2017 - 17:33 VIG
Account deleted Written by Metren on 30.06.2017 at 00:50 I was going to write something similar, but it's good I left it to someone else. I couldn't agree more. Written by nikarg on 30.06.2017 at 01:58 That is so stupid. Even if you could call Evanescence a metal band, I don't think many fans of Gojira, Anathema, etc. would like them.
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01.07.2017 - 00:55 Written by nikarg on 30.06.2017 at 16:22 neither can I
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02.07.2017 - 15:03 Written by nikarg on 30.06.2017 at 16:22 Forget Evanescence , the prize for "soundtrack for lame vampire films for teenagers like Twilight" has been claimed since 1999: http://www.metalstorm.net/bands/album.php?album_id=838&band_id=126&bandname=HIM Everyone agrees that Black Sabbath, Metallica, Iron Maiden etc should occupy top spots but I'd say the spots for the lower half of a top 100 will always be up for discussions, depending on personal tastes. A bit like thrash fans agreeing on the top 3 thrash bands but having endless discussions about which band should hold the 4th spot. While I am personally OK with Fallen, I don't quite see why and how it ended up in such top 100. There are plenty of better albums out there. I would have put Paradise Lost's Draconian Times or The Gathering's Mandylion instead for example.
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Daniell _็ฑๆ _ Elite |
"X shouldn't be on the list" "Why isn't Y on the list" "Putting Z on the list is ridiculous" That's basically what every post in this topic says. It's just a list, get over it.
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04.07.2017 - 16:39 VIG
Account deleted Written by Daniell on 04.07.2017 at 12:13 I agree, but this Evanescence argument^ is the most relevant though. Maybe that band could have it's own thread where people can argue if they are metal or not
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Paz Elite |
Motörhead's compilation shouldn't be on the list Why isn't Deathspell Omega on the list Putting Manowar on the list is ridiculous
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite |
Written by Paz on 04.07.2017 at 17:39 Actually it isn't since Manowar was extremely influential.
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Paz Elite |
04.07.2017 - 17:57 Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.07.2017 at 17:48 For me it is Their music is garbage.
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nikarg Staff |
04.07.2017 - 21:43 Written by Paz on 04.07.2017 at 17:57 They did define a whole genre though.. and the fashion statement was quite fun
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05.07.2017 - 16:39 VIG
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09.07.2017 - 02:15
Love/have some of those albums but there is just waaaay to much USA!
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11.07.2017 - 19:59 Written by Hellcult on 09.07.2017 at 02:15 Meh. Country of origin was way down on my critique. Who gives a shit where are they are from? What matters is what they put out.
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12.07.2017 - 00:54 VIG
Account deleted Written by BitterCOld on 11.07.2017 at 19:59 Yeah, I was thinking the same. I really usually don't care where a band is from.
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dmiller458 Posts: 24 |
23.07.2017 - 06:02
So many obvious landmark albums that are missing: Seven Churches, Pleasure To Kill, Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, Sad Wings. I especially disagree with them including No Remorse. The list would have been better served by including Ace Of Spades or No Sleep.
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23.07.2017 - 15:17 VIG
Account deleted Written by dmiller458 on 23.07.2017 at 06:02 Some of my favorite albums! I was looking all over for them when I went through this list
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dmiller458 Posts: 24 |
23.07.2017 - 18:30
One the mainstays of rock (and popular music in general) is the solo act. I was mildly surprised at how few solo acts are on that list. Even when a project is essentially one guy, he still uses a band name rather than his own (Bathory, for example). Speaking of solo acts, there's another glaring omission. Where is Abigail?
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dmiller458 Posts: 24 |
23.07.2017 - 19:07 Written by BitterCOld on 11.07.2017 at 19:59 I care. Your location is listed as Paraguay. Are there any kick@$$ metal bands from Paraguay? Because if there are any, I'd like to hear their music. I think HellCult's point was more that it's an US magazine putting out a list dominated by US acts. There's obviously at least a marginal pro-American bias there. A similar list from NME or Kerrang would bring it's own British and European perspective.
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dmiller458 Posts: 24 |
23.07.2017 - 19:26 Written by nikarg on 28.06.2017 at 16:09 One more band or one more good band? When did White Zombie's debut come out? Was it 89 or 90? I think it was 89.
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dmiller458 Posts: 24 |
23.07.2017 - 19:42 Written by Guest on 22.06.2017 at 04:21 I got to agree with the other posters. You expected way too much from Rolling Stone. For them to put Sabbath at the top is the height of irony. They've trashed metal practically from day one. You can go on their website and read the reviews ripping Sabbath among others. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/black-sabbath-19700917 The original 1979 edition of the Rolling Stone Record Guide rated every single one of Black Sabbath's albums as worthless. The fact that they come even close to getting it right is surprising given their history. Written by Guest on 22.06.2017 at 04:21 The coin has got two sides. Popular doesn't always equal bad. Sometimes even the flavor-of-the-month crowd gets it right.
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dmiller458 Posts: 24 |
23.07.2017 - 20:01 Written by Guest on 28.06.2017 at 02:27 When I think they get it right, it's easy to get into any album. When I think a band misses the mark, I find myself listening over and over and over and over again trying to get my mind wrapped around what they were going for musically. Enough time passed can give a fresh perspective on things. When's the last time you listened to Painkiller?
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24.07.2017 - 00:10 VIG
Account deleted Written by dmiller458 on 23.07.2017 at 20:01 When I wrote that. Still didn't like it Written by dmiller458 on 23.07.2017 at 19:42 Yes, I did expect too much from RS, but I still think they could've done a little better. And yes, of course I know popular doesn't always equal bad as well.
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dmiller458 Posts: 24 |
24.07.2017 - 01:42 Written by Guest on 24.07.2017 at 00:10 There was a time when we expected our rock stars to be rock stars. Seems that somewhere around the mid-80s, commercial success became suspect. Lot of the time, the most successful albums, bands, and genres are also the least respected. If listening to Avenged Sevenfold leads a metal-head to Agalloch, then they've served their purpose. BTW currently listening to Watching From A Distance. I love British doom. Don't know how this one slipped under my radar. I'm only three songs in and I'm thinking I'm gonna have to buy this.
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24.07.2017 - 02:50 VIG
Account deleted Written by dmiller458 on 24.07.2017 at 01:42 Funny you listen to my current favorite album! Yeah, also metal is getting more popular, but I don't think it will ever be as popular as it was in the 80s or 90s.
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