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Posted by BitterCOld on 17.05.2006 at 03:12
A poster used to have the following as his signature:

"Wolves evolve. If you don't like, don't listen."

Feel free to discuss Ulver through all their various evolutions here.



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BitterCOld
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  15.11.2006 at 19:11
Written by jupitreas on 13.10.2006 at 02:43

As much as I love Perdition City, it is really not as good as you people make it out to be. Sure, for a band that started out as black metal, this sort of style-shifting is absolutely unprecedented and unattainable by most bands; however, compared to the sort of stuff that is happening in the actual dark-ambient/ambient/avent-electronica etc genres, Perdition City is merely a very good album. Bands like Mouse On Mars, Christian Fennesz etc have been making far superior electronic music for years.



I have a couple friends that are big into electronic music and have been feeding me some - mostly Peter Namlook stuff, but a slew of other artists as well. I've enjoyed a lot of it, disliked some of it. I think the reason I hold "Perdition City" in the esteem I do is a combination of the bands evolution, my appreciation of that evolution, and some of the various senitmental attachments of some of the various happenings in my life over hte past couple years that "PC" has served as the soundtrack for.

I will see if my amigos have any Mouse on Mars or Christian Fennesz... I have no doubts they will fantastic given your endorsement.
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Ulven i Manden
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  16.11.2006 at 17:21
Written by Guest on 15.11.2006 at 17:29

I really, really do love Ulver, they're one band that has managed to evolve without ever feeling like they've changed their sound to be more accessible.


That is RIGHT! That's how I see evolution of Ulver sounds. In all Ulver albums I can feel that. No matter if I am listening Nattens Madrigal or Blood Inside... Ulver' magic? For me - Yes.
Xaphiris

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  28.11.2006 at 13:29
I recently got into them, can anybody give me guidelines? I really like their black metal period but I'm open to their more recent evolutions...
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  29.11.2006 at 04:04
Written by Xaphiris on 28.11.2006 at 13:29

I recently got into them, can anybody give me guidelines? I really like their black metal period but I'm open to their more recent evolutions...


Well, their first three are their most "classic" albums and their all acoustic folk album 'Kveldssanger' remains one of my most beloved albums of all time. If you would like to experiment anything works really. Try out 'Perdition City' and their latest 'Blood Inside.'
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nobody

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  29.11.2006 at 15:48
Why this band are here not extreme metal forum?

We all shood remebe rthay first 2 was BM, then acustic folk metal and leither thay just play avangarde and then tahy play non metal music
I realy love almoust ewery Ulver albums but of course closer to my heart are first 4
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  29.11.2006 at 23:28
This thread was started in the Extreme forum and was moved here, probably to reflect the path they are currently walking, as opposed to the path they tread many years ago.
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  30.11.2006 at 18:17
Written by BitterCOld on 29.11.2006 at 23:28

This thread was started in the Extreme forum and was moved here, probably to reflect the path they are currently walking, as opposed to the path they tread many years ago.


Exactly. That is the reason I moved the thread because most of their albums aren't even metal anymore.
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Ulven i Manden
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  01.12.2006 at 00:10
Written by Xaphiris on 28.11.2006 at 13:29

I recently got into them, can anybody give me guidelines? I really like their black metal period but I'm open to their more recent evolutions...

I can recommend You their last masterpiece "Blood Inside" with full responsibility...
Ulver has something amazing in their all LPs... I do not know exactly how to describe that... It is indescribable... You must get into... You will not regret it I promise... I did that and must say it was gorgeous feeling...
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  20.12.2006 at 22:55
Well, I just got "Blood Inside", and I liked it a lot. I saw teh video for "It is not sound", and I can say some stuff about Ulver:
- The music is weird
- The video is weird
- They're weird.
But I loved it.
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  21.12.2006 at 02:07
Ulver is a very different and acquired taste. Whether it be from their acoustic tinged Black Metal days or to their pure electronica, or to now with the mixture of both live and artificial instruments and sounds. I love everything that I have come into contact with. Just yesterday I listened to my copy of 'Bergtatt' and it really took me on an almost magical journey. The music is so ethereal that it's easy to lose your grip on reality while you listen to them. Amazing works.
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Ulven i Manden
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  22.12.2006 at 21:38
Written by Clint Diamond on 21.12.2006 at 02:07

...I listened to my copy of 'Bergtatt' and it really took me on an almost magical journey. The music is so ethereal that it's easy to lose your grip on reality while you listen to them. Amazing works.


Truly musical genius... I think all Ulver's albums have this "abilitys"... to carry our minds into another, magic world...
Basso
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  27.12.2006 at 14:08
Written by Guest on 22.12.2006 at 21:38

Written by Clint Diamond on 21.12.2006 at 02:07

...I listened to my copy of 'Bergtatt' and it really took me on an almost magical journey. The music is so ethereal that it's easy to lose your grip on reality while you listen to them. Amazing works.


Truly musical genius... I think all Ulver's albums have this "abilitys"... to carry our minds into another, magic world...


Listened to Bergtatt the night before christmas, before I went to sleep. I was totally spaced out at the end of the album. Such a great atmopshere
Ulven i Manden
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  27.12.2006 at 22:35
Written by Guest on 27.12.2006 at 14:08

Listened to Bergtatt the night before christmas, before I went to sleep. I was totally spaced out at the end of the album. Such a great atmopshere

Yeah... I love to take a sit, close my eyes and play "Bergtatt"...
Ulven i Manden
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  02.01.2007 at 17:23
What do you think about lyckanthropen themes in first three albums? I think it is great idea to mix BM with tales and legends about werewolfes...
Clint Diamond
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  03.01.2007 at 07:48
Written by Guest on 02.01.2007 at 17:23

What do you think about lyckanthropen themes in first three albums? I think it is great idea to mix BM with tales and legends about werewolfes...


I think 'Lyckanthropen Themes' is an excellent piece of minimalistic work. The music conveys a very haunting, bleak atmosphere with the use of very few isntruments and sounds, yet enough variation not to become boring. However, I wouldn't apply the title of Black Metal to the album at all. A great soundtrack indeed.
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Ulven i Manden
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  03.01.2007 at 10:54
Written by Clint Diamond on 03.01.2007 at 07:48

Written by Guest on 02.01.2007 at 17:23

What do you think about lyckanthropen themes in first three albums? I think it is great idea to mix BM with tales and legends about werewolfes...


I think 'Lyckanthropen Themes' is an excellent piece of minimalistic work. The music conveys a very haunting, bleak atmosphere with the use of very few isntruments and sounds, yet enough variation not to become boring. However, I wouldn't apply the title of Black Metal to the album at all. A great soundtrack indeed.

well... in my previous post I was talking about first, three BM albums and wolfish (lyckanthropen) motives inside them...
Anyway: Thank you for 'Lyckanthropen Themes' summary...
Basso
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  03.01.2007 at 12:59
Written by Guest on 02.01.2007 at 17:23

What do you think about lyckanthropen themes in first three albums? I think it is great idea to mix BM with tales and legends about werewolfes...


They are ofcourse amazing! great for atmosphere invoking especially during night.

I am yet to hear the album "Lycantropen Themes" have to check it out
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  04.01.2007 at 02:42
Written by Guest on 03.01.2007 at 10:54

Written by Clint Diamond on 03.01.2007 at 07:48

Written by Guest on 02.01.2007 at 17:23

What do you think about lyckanthropen themes in first three albums? I think it is great idea to mix BM with tales and legends about werewolfes...


I think 'Lyckanthropen Themes' is an excellent piece of minimalistic work. The music conveys a very haunting, bleak atmosphere with the use of very few isntruments and sounds, yet enough variation not to become boring. However, I wouldn't apply the title of Black Metal to the album at all. A great soundtrack indeed.

well... in my previous post I was talking about first, three BM albums and wolfish (lyckanthropen) motives inside them...
Anyway: Thank you for 'Lyckanthropen Themes' summary...


Oh okay, I understand. Anyway, it's a classic topic, well done by Ulver, of course.
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  04.01.2007 at 03:37
Written by +{Jonas}+ on 20.12.2006 at 22:55

Well, I just got "Blood Inside", and I liked it a lot. I saw teh video for "It is not sound", and I can say some stuff about Ulver:
- The music is weird
- The video is weird
- They're weird.
But I loved it.


I hawnt seen Ulver video, I even didnt know thay hawe one, where you saw it
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Ulven i Manden
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  04.01.2007 at 03:42
Written by Bad English on 04.01.2007 at 03:37

Written by +{Jonas}+ on 20.12.2006 at 22:55

Well, I just got "Blood Inside", and I liked it a lot. I saw teh video for "It is not sound", and I can say some stuff about Ulver:
- The music is weird
- The video is weird
- They're weird.
But I loved it.


I hawnt seen Ulver video, I even didnt know thay hawe one, where you saw it

On YouTube.com there are at least 2 Ulver's videos... But I am not sure if this video's are "official" stuff...
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  04.01.2007 at 14:04
Written by Guest on 04.01.2007 at 03:42

Written by Bad English on 04.01.2007 at 03:37

Written by +{Jonas}+ on 20.12.2006 at 22:55

Well, I just got "Blood Inside", and I liked it a lot. I saw teh video for "It is not sound", and I can say some stuff about Ulver:
- The music is weird
- The video is weird
- They're weird.
But I loved it.


I hawnt seen Ulver video, I even didnt know thay hawe one, where you saw it

On YouTube.com there are at least 2 Ulver's videos... But I am not sure if this video's are "official" stuff...


I thinking about official stuff I dont like thos evideos what ppl like you and me fil whit some camera or sell phone and put in you tube, better orriginal stuff
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  04.01.2007 at 15:44
Written by Bad English on 04.01.2007 at 14:04

Written by Guest on 04.01.2007 at 03:42

Written by Bad English on 04.01.2007 at 03:37

Written by +{Jonas}+ on 20.12.2006 at 22:55

Well, I just got "Blood Inside", and I liked it a lot. I saw teh video for "It is not sound", and I can say some stuff about Ulver:
- The music is weird
- The video is weird
- They're weird.
But I loved it.


I hawnt seen Ulver video, I even didnt know thay hawe one, where you saw it

On YouTube.com there are at least 2 Ulver's videos... But I am not sure if this video's are "official" stuff...


I thinking about official stuff I dont like thos evideos what ppl like you and me fil whit some camera or sell phone and put in you tube, better orriginal stuff

Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwSjaf3aa2M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rs_NRyNs4o&mode=related&search=
BitterCOld
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  04.01.2007 at 19:26
not sure there is much of a 'wolfen' theme in Bergtatt. It's based on an old folk tale about a girl taking a stroll through the woods, followed by night falling, a storm, and encounter with the 'denizens of hte forest.'

Sadly, I can no longer find the link with the synopsis of the tale that Garm and Co. put to music.


I'm also not sure about wolfen themes in Kveldssanger, either. I haven't seen any translations to the lyrics for that album.
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Ulven i Manden
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  04.01.2007 at 19:47
Written by BitterCOld on 04.01.2007 at 19:26

not sure there is much of a 'wolfen' theme in Bergtatt. It's based on an old folk tale about a girl taking a stroll through the woods, followed by night falling, a storm, and encounter with the 'denizens of hte forest.'

Sadly, I can no longer find the link with the synopsis of the tale that Garm and Co. put to music.


I'm also not sure about wolfen themes in Kveldssanger, either. I haven't seen any translations to the lyrics for that album.

Yeah... maby "wolfish" motives are not as clear as on Nattens Madrigal but when I say "wolfish" I also mean: dark, gloom, forest, magic atmosphere... (so to speak)
Translations for Kveldsfanger are on: http://metal-archives.com/
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  24.06.2007 at 05:26
I've just recently been getting into Ulver and they are just amazing. I've only heard Nattens Madrigal, Svidd Neger and Kveldssanger so far, but all three albums have stunned me. "Nattens Madrigal" is a nice raw yet simultaneously melodic album which had me hooked from first listen. What I particularly loved about the album was the acoustic interludes and passages. After hearing Svidd Neger I really fell in love with Ulver. The subtle yet dark sound scapes had me in awe. And Kveldssanger, well, it's such a beautiful acoustic folk album and creates such hypnotising serene atmosphere.

Ulver's diversity is just incredible. I love how they manage to compose tranquil acoustic stuff to more aggressive black metal. They are certainly a band that I will be looking to hear more of in the near future.
BitterCOld
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  24.06.2007 at 12:27
Written by Eternal Flames on 24.06.2007 at 05:26

I've just recently been getting into Ulver and they are just amazing. I've only heard Nattens Madrigal, Svidd Neger and Kveldssanger so far, but all three albums have stunned me. "Nattens Madrigal" is a nice raw yet simultaneously melodic album which had me hooked from first listen. What I particularly loved about the album was the acoustic interludes and passages. After hearing Svidd Neger I really fell in love with Ulver. The subtle yet dark sound scapes had me in awe. And Kveldssanger, well, it's such a beautiful acoustic folk album and creates such hypnotising serene atmosphere.

Ulver's diversity is just incredible. I love how they manage to compose tranquil acoustic stuff to more aggressive black metal. They are certainly a band that I will be looking to hear more of in the near future.



If you like the movement from tranquil/acoustic to aggressive, "Bergtatt" comes with my highest possible recommendation. It has all the qualities you listed meshed into one 5 track, 34 minute album. I had extremely high expectations of this album based upon what I had read on it, and it absolutely crushed those lofty expectations. It is my favorite metal album, period, bar none.

Garm and Co seem to have a solid grasp on song and album composition, timing, and structure, so the entire "Bergtatt" album builds between styles but does so in such a manner that it doesn't seem to drag at any point.

Somehow it just flows fairly seamlessly, the lone exception is the all acoustic fourth track, which is a slightly odd departure from the general flow of the album - and never seems to drag or get tedious - a lesson Opeth (I cite them as they are probably at the forefront of bands who shift from peaceful to pounding in a song, let alone album) could take to heart.
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  29.06.2007 at 07:07
Written by BitterCOld on 24.06.2007 at 12:27

Written by Eternal Flames on 24.06.2007 at 05:26

I've just recently been getting into Ulver and they are just amazing. I've only heard Nattens Madrigal, Svidd Neger and Kveldssanger so far, but all three albums have stunned me. "Nattens Madrigal" is a nice raw yet simultaneously melodic album which had me hooked from first listen. What I particularly loved about the album was the acoustic interludes and passages. After hearing Svidd Neger I really fell in love with Ulver. The subtle yet dark sound scapes had me in awe. And Kveldssanger, well, it's such a beautiful acoustic folk album and creates such hypnotising serene atmosphere.

Ulver's diversity is just incredible. I love how they manage to compose tranquil acoustic stuff to more aggressive black metal. They are certainly a band that I will be looking to hear more of in the near future.



If you like the movement from tranquil/acoustic to aggressive, "Bergtatt" comes with my highest possible recommendation. It has all the qualities you listed meshed into one 5 track, 34 minute album. I had extremely high expectations of this album based upon what I had read on it, and it absolutely crushed those lofty expectations. It is my favorite metal album, period, bar none.

Garm and Co seem to have a solid grasp on song and album composition, timing, and structure, so the entire "Bergtatt" album builds between styles but does so in such a manner that it doesn't seem to drag at any point.

Somehow it just flows fairly seamlessly, the lone exception is the all acoustic fourth track, which is a slightly odd departure from the general flow of the album - and never seems to drag or get tedious - a lesson Opeth (I cite them as they are probably at the forefront of bands who shift from peaceful to pounding in a song, let alone album) could take to heart.

Thanks for that recommendation. It definitely seems like an album that I would enjoy. I'll search around for it and return with my opinion on the album when I give it a few listens. Thanks.
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  29.06.2007 at 23:17
After seeing these guys labeled as Post-Rock and some decent reviews, I decided to give them a shot. All I heard was sure dissappointment. If anyone could maybe give me some recommendations, I may give them another shot.
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  30.06.2007 at 07:45
Written by Guest on 29.06.2007 at 23:17

After seeing these guys labeled as Post-Rock and some decent reviews, I decided to give them a shot. All I heard was sure dissappointment. If anyone could maybe give me some recommendations, I may give them another shot.


Only their latest release 'Blood Inside' is the only album that could ever come close to being labeled Post Rock, and even that is far off. It depends on what you're looking for. They have beautiful folk tinged Black Metal in 'Bergtatt.' They have a pure acoustic folk album in 'Kveldssanger.' They have the truly epic, yet excruciating Black Metal album in 'Nattens Madrigal.' From there on they have plenty of fantastic works of Electronica from the very bleak 'Perdition City' to the minimalistic 'Svidd Neger' and 'Lycanthropen Themes' (both of which are movie scores) to the haunting atmospheres of 'Blood Inside.' Depends on what you're in the mood for.
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  30.06.2007 at 09:03
I have heard "Nattens Madrigal" for BM and the later albums by Ulver.
I somehow have preferred the later Ulver than the BM one.
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