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"Admittedly it took some time to process and accept, particularly given how amazing Erosion was and the expectation of a continuation of that style."
This is why I haven't listened to the entire thing yet. I'm trying to remove Erosion from my mind temporarily because from what I've read (this review included) it's not just more of the same. Hopefully I'm able to do that and appreciate this for what it is. |
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| Good review, hope the album is good...Harvest didn't really blow my hair back, but need the full meal deal to form any sort of opinion. |
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Just got my pre-ordered copy.
Have listened for 5 times. It's not worse than Erosion, it's just different. Last track Fæmin is mesmerizing masterpiece. |
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| The track on their bandcamp sounds great. Will check out the full album sometime |
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| This is something to look into, most definitely. |
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| Was a big fan of Renounce, but didn't listen much after that. Might check this out then. |
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| Not impressed by the new sludgy sound... only listened to "Harvest", though... |
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 09.05.2012 at 19:16
Not impressed by the new sludgy sound
Sludgy? In the atmospheric sludge, Cult of Luna, way yes (lots of CoL here). But otherwise I'd say not. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 09.05.2012 at 19:18
Written by Merchant of Doom on 09.05.2012 at 19:16
Not impressed by the new sludgy sound
Sludgy? In the atmospheric sludge, Cult of Luna, way yes (lots of CoL here). But otherwise I'd say not.
well, yes... previous stuff was a tad different, but regardless, again, judging on one track, I thought they conformed to a rather boring "heard a million times before" sludgy sound... to be honest, I was expecting a progression on the previous album... to me , this is a regression. Only a personal opinion. |
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.05.2012 at 00:52
well, yes... previous stuff was a tad different, but regardless, again, judging on one track, I thought they conformed to a rather boring "heard a million times before" sludgy sound... to be honest, I was expecting a progression on the previous album... to me , this is a regression. Only a personal opinion.
I've only heard this one song and that's my reaction. I like Cult of Luna but I don't want more than one of that band, which is what I got from Harvest. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 10.05.2012 at 00:55
Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.05.2012 at 00:52
well, yes... previous stuff was a tad different, but regardless, again, judging on one track, I thought they conformed to a rather boring "heard a million times before" sludgy sound... to be honest, I was expecting a progression on the previous album... to me , this is a regression. Only a personal opinion.
I've only heard this one song and that's my reaction. I like Cult of Luna but I don't want more than one of that band, which is what I got from Harvest.
I love Cult of Luna... but, as you say, we don't need another one. I will reserve my judgment until I've heard the entire album... I'm not against a changing of direction per se, it's just not the changing of direction I was expecting. I'm sure there will be many people who will love this. |
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.05.2012 at 09:44
I love Cult of Luna... but, as you say, we don't need another one. I will reserve my judgment until I've heard the entire album... I'm not against a changing of direction per se, it's just not the changing of direction I was expecting. I'm sure there will be many people who will love this.
I don''t really see this new one as a change of direction when you compare it to eorsion. Erosion already had a lot of the elements, you can find on Faemin, in it. This is more or less the move I expected from them. Process Of Guilt moving further away from doom (even though there is still doom present) and moving further into a post metal direction. |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.05.2012 at 10:23
Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.05.2012 at 09:44
I love Cult of Luna... but, as you say, we don't need another one. I will reserve my judgment until I've heard the entire album... I'm not against a changing of direction per se, it's just not the changing of direction I was expecting. I'm sure there will be many people who will love this.
I don''t really see this new one as a change of direction when you compare it to eorsion. Erosion already had a lot of the elements, you can find on Faemin, in it. This is more or less the move I expected from them. Process Of Guilt moving further away from doom (even though there is still doom present) and moving further into a post metal direction.
you don't? I haven't listened to the whole album, and yes, there are elements in Erosion already, but Erosion is a very doomy album. The style of singing is completely different on the song I listened to (Harvest). I suppose I was expecting more doom....  |
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.05.2012 at 10:29
I suppose I was expecting more doom....
If you were expecting more doom then it''s clear you have no idea what Process of Guilt and especially Hugo Santos are all about  |
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| I have to agree with Marcel there. There was absolutely no reason to expect a "more doom" album. |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.05.2012 at 10:34
Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.05.2012 at 10:29
I suppose I was expecting more doom....
If you were expecting more doom then it''s clear you have no idea what Process of Guilt and especially Hugo Santos are all about
No, I don't... but maybe I should have said a more 'doomy' album... Process of Guilt have never been 100% doom, probably not even 50%... doesn't surprise me they are exploring 'new' avenues... anyway, Erosion came out in 2009 and, if you take into consideration the gestation period, it was eons ago... |
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.05.2012 at 10:45
anyway, Erosion came out in 2009 and, if you take into consideration the gestation period, it was eons ago...
yep, with the stop gap limited e.p. Circle in between which had all sorts of remixes of that song. |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 10.05.2012 at 10:44
I have to agree with Marcel there. There was absolutely no reason to expect a "more doom" album.
Hope springs eternal... |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.05.2012 at 10:46
Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.05.2012 at 10:45
anyway, Erosion came out in 2009 and, if you take into consideration the gestation period, it was eons ago...
yep, with the stop gap limited e.p. Circle in between which had all sorts of remixes of that song.
which I thought was a useless experiment... |
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.05.2012 at 10:48
which I thought was a useless experiment...
I didn''t because it showed the band's inspirations and vision and actually had a couple of interesting takes on the song on it. But it wasn''t for everyone that''s why they limited it. |
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| I'm all for progress and innovation, but I was expecting more innovation than a boring, derivative sludgy sound... |
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.05.2012 at 10:47
Written by Mr. Doctor on 10.05.2012 at 10:44
I have to agree with Marcel there. There was absolutely no reason to expect a "more doom" album.
Hope springs eternal...
... an incredibly amusing sentiment from a doom merchant...
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Written by BitterCOld on 10.05.2012 at 11:05
Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.05.2012 at 10:47
Written by Mr. Doctor on 10.05.2012 at 10:44
I have to agree with Marcel there. There was absolutely no reason to expect a "more doom" album.
Hope springs eternal...
... an incredibly amusing sentiment from a doom merchant...
ah, ah, lol... touché! |
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.05.2012 at 10:29
I suppose I was expecting more doom....
Same, although I haven't listened to it to get a full grasp of the situation (and as Marcel pointed out, I guess I don't know what the band members are all about or whatever but it's not like I hang out with them at my house).
Based on what I got from Erosion, and Renounce, I wasn't expecting a transition into post-metal. And to be honest, I have no interest in the genre myself which will suck for me if this album is more post than doom... but whatevs. Bands do what they want and listeners either like it or they don't. I just didn't imagine myself not liking one of their releases so early. :/
That being said, I still have to listen to the whole thing before I officially label this "good" or "bad".  |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.05.2012 at 17:28
but it's not like I hang out with them at my house
looks like Marcel does... BTW, I will be able to make a more informed judgment when I can listen to the whole thing... hopefully, soon, if I get a promo...  |
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.05.2012 at 17:52
Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.05.2012 at 17:28
but it's not like I hang out with them at my house
looks like Marcel does...
Not with Process Of Guilt (yet? )
For hanging out at my house you need to contact Procession, Ataraxie, Mourning Dawn |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.05.2012 at 17:28
Based on what I got from Erosion, and Renounce, I wasn't expecting a transition into post-metal.
This is the part I don't get. I felt it was obvious. Renounce is as far as I remember more of a Black/doom release... But with Erosion it was some Death/Doom thing but with clearly MANY influences of post-metal. Yeah... They were "just" influences but listening to the entire album makes me feel like these guys obviously were going in that path.
...and I don't know them * , just saying from what I'm listening
* = Well, I met Hugo and bought Erosion directly from him ... But I was stupid enough to not ask him to sign it. Oh well... |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 10.05.2012 at 18:20
They were "just" influences but listening to the entire album makes me feel like these guys obviously were going in that path.
I thought they would just continue with that style. But by the sound of it they've kind of done a reversal - from post-influenced doom metal to doom-influenced post-metal. |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.05.2012 at 18:22
I thought they would just continue with that style. But by the sound of it they've kind of done a reversal - from post-influenced doom metal to doom-influenced post-metal.
Welp, I haven't heard this either. Marcel says it's still doom enough to call it doom metal, we'll see. |
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| It's not total post, but it is a step further down the road than i thought they'd be on album 3. if Renounce is Point A, Erosion Point B, Faemin seems more like Point D or E. |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 10.05.2012 at 18:25
Written by Troy Killjoy on 10.05.2012 at 18:22
I thought they would just continue with that style. But by the sound of it they've kind of done a reversal - from post-influenced doom metal to doom-influenced post-metal.
Welp, I haven't heard this either. Marcel says it's still doom enough to call it doom metal, we'll see.
Harvest is a good song, I want to listen all the tracks before ordering it.
Their vocal style is really changed: of course I didn't expect another 'Renounce' or 'Erosion'.
Maybe this is less "Doom" and more actual "Process of Guilt", I think I will appreciate this evolution |
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| Any good guitar solos in there? |
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This guys keep on impressing me. After many spins, I just can say I love this album; as most of you say, it still has lots of Doom elements here and there perfectly mixed with a huge post-metal influence we all praised on "Erosion", so I think they maybe changed their style, but it wasn't unexpected, and they did it so freaking well, that fans from their previous works will surely enjoy this one too.
Simply one of my favorites of the year so far. |
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| You have me interested right when I read "Cult of Neurosis" and "Godflesh". Is their previous releases as "heavy" as this? Thanks for the review Craig. |
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Written by tea[m]ster on 04.10.2012 at 17:13
You have me interested right when I read "Cult of Neurosis" and "Godflesh". Is their previous releases as "heavy" as this? Thanks for the review Craig.
Erosion owns this album if you ask me. In every sense This onw isn't too shabby but Erosion is just superior. |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 04.10.2012 at 17:21
Erosion owns this album if you ask me. In every sense This onw isn't too shabby but Erosion is just superior.
Thanks doc, I'll have to check it out. |
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| I just can't get into this album. I appreciate how it's so drum and bass heavy,but I just can't seem to do that for the album itself. Seems kind of very bland right meow. |
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