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This year, I will try to listen to less music more. That is, I won't go out of my way to hear and list every possible album I sort of dig on the first spin, and the ones I do include I aim to know thoroughly. A lot of the albums I include tentatively will probably get deleted, too. Without further preamble, interesting albums in no particular order:

Created by: IronAngel | 26.03.2014



1. Hail Spirit Noir - Oi Magoi (Psychedelic/Progressive (Black) Metal)
2. Have A Nice Life - The Unnatural World (Lo-Fi/Post-Punk/Shoegaze/Drone)
3. Thee Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra - Fuck Off Get Free We Pour Light On Everything (Post-Rock/Artsy Noise Rock)
4. Bohren & der Club of Gore - Piano Nights (Ambient Jazz)
5. Angel Olsen - Burn Your Fire For No Witness (Lo-Fi Singer-Songwriter/Indie Folk)
6. Warpaint - Warpaint (Dream Pop/Trip Hop)
7. Scandinavian Music Group - Terminal 2 (Art Pop/Rock.)
8. Iisa - Iisa (Indie/Electropop.)
9. Michel Cloup Duo - Minuit Dans Tes Bras (Art Rock/Post-Rock)
10. Sun Kil Moon - Benji (Contemporary Folk)
11. Otto A Totland - Minô (Modern Classical)
12. Lethe - When Dreams Become Nightmares (Electronic Rock/Trip-Rock)
13. Sevendeaths - Concretè Misery (Progressive Electronic/Drone)
14. Tara Jane O'Neil - Where Shine New Lights (Dream Pop/Ambient Pop)
15. Birds of Passage - This Kindly Slumber (Ambient (Pop))
16. Snowbird - Moon (Dream Pop)
17. Cibo Matto - Hotel Valentine (Art Pop/Genre Clusterfuck)
18. Nadja - Queller (Shoegaze/Drone Metal)
19. St. Vincent - St. Vincent (Art Pop)
20. The Wounded Kings - Consolamentum (Traditional Doom)
21. Current 93 - I Am the Last of All the Field That Fell (A Channel) (Neofolk/Avant-Folk)
22. Mondkopf - Hadès (Electronic/Dark Ambient)
23. Francis Harris - Minutes of Sleep (Microhouse/Ambient)
24. Tycho - Awake (Electronic/Downtempo)
25. Dirge - Hyperion (Atmospheric Sludge)
26. Chinawoman - Let's Part In Style (Art Pop/Slowcore)
27. Thou - Heathen (Sludge/Doom)
28. Conan - Blood Eagle (Doom/Sludge)
29. Timber Timbre - Hot Dreams (Contemporary Folk)
30. Freddie Gibbs & Madlib - Piñata (Hip Hop)
31. La Dispute - Rooms of the House (Post-Hardcore)
32. Slough Feg - Digital Resistance (Heavy Metal)
33. Christina Vantzou - No. 2 (Ambient/Modern Classical)
34. Wijlen Wij - Coronachs Of The Ω (Funeral Doom)
35. Teebs - E s t a r a (Ambient/Downtempo. Glitchy, pleasant, and BoC-inspired.)
36. Bvdub - I'll Only Break Your Heart (Ambient Techno/Pop)
37. Valentin Stip - Sigh (IDM/Microhouse)
38. Golden Retriever - Seer (Ambient/Progressive Electronic)
39. Krusseldorf - Fractal World (IDM/Downtempo)
40. David Andree & Josh Mason - Call, Response (Ambient)
41. Orcas - Yearling (Dream Pop/Ambient)
42. CunninLynguists - Strange Journey Volume Three (Hip Hop)
43. Neneh Cherry - Blank Project (Art Pop/Jazzy R&B/Trip Hop)
44. Kangding Ray - Solens Arc (Minimal Techno)
45. Nebelung - Palingenesis (Neofolk/Dark Folk)
46. Junius - Days Of The Fallen Sun (Post-Rock/Alt-Rock.)
47. Triptykon - Melana Chasmata (Thrash/Doom)
48. Swans - To Be Kind (Experimental Rock)
49. Wovenhand - Refractory Obdurate (Alt-Country/Psychedelic Folk Rock)
50. BADBADNOTGOOD - III (Nu Jazz)
51. Tori Amos - Unrepentant Geraldines (Singer-Songwriter/Adult Contemporary)
52. Sharon Van Etten - Are We There (Contemporary Folk/Singer-Songwriter)
53. Owen Pallett - In Conflict (Art Pop/Chamber Pop)
54. Godflesh - Decline & Fall (Industrial Sludge)
55. Mayhem - Esoteric Warfare (Black Metal)
56. Tuomas Henrikin Jeesuksen Kristuksen Bändi - Käkkyrällään (Alternative Rock/Punk/Metal)
57. Joose Keskitalo - Ylösnousemus (Singer-Songwriter/Folk)
58. Boris - Noise (Post-Rock/Shoegaze/Atmosludge/J-Rock and stuff.)
59. Blut Aus Nord - Triunity [Split] (With P.H.O.B.O.S. Industrial Black/Doom)
60. Lantlôs - Melting Sun (Shoegaze/Post-Rock)
61. Fennesz - Bécs (Ambient/Electroacoustic)
62. Planning For Burial - Desideratum (Drone/Shoegaze)
63. First Aid Kit - Stay Gold (Folk Pop)
64. Venetian Snares - My Love Is A Bulldozer (Breakcore)
65. Pilgrim - II: Void Worship (Traditional Doom)
66. Hundreds - Aftermath (Dream Pop/Indie Pop)
67. Jess Williamson - Native State (Folk)
68. Sage Francis - Copper Gone (Hip Hop)
69. Kyary Pamyu Pamyu - Pika Pika Fantajin (J-Pop)
70. Bong - Stoner Rock (Drone Doom)
71. Pallbearer - Foundations Of Burden (Epicish Traditional Doom)
72. Rome - Passage to Rhodesia (Neofolk)
73. Eyehategod - Eyehategod (Sludge)
74. Sólstafir - Ótta (Progressive Rock/Atmospheric Sludge)
75. Einar Stray Orchestra - Politricks (Chamber Pop/Post-Rock)
76. Earth - Primitive And Deadly (Psychedelic Rock)
77. Moonface - City Wrecker (Singer-Songwriter/Piano Rock)
78. Jenny Hval & Susanna - Meshes of Voice (Art Pop/Experimental)
79. Kerkko Koskinen Kollektiivi - 2 (Art Pop)
80. Siinai - Supermarket (Progressive Electronic/Krautrock)
81. A Winged Victory For The Sullen - Atomos (Ambient/Modern Classical)
82. A Winged Victory For The Sullen - Atomos VII (EP. Ambient/Modern Classical)
83. Leonard Cohen - Popular Problems (Singer-Songwriter)
84. YOB - Clearing The Path To Ascend (Doom/Sludge)
85. Aphex Twin - Syro (IDM)
86. Today Is The Day - Animal Mother (Sludge/Noisecore)
87. Darkspace - Dark Space III I (Atmospheric/Ambient Black Metal)
88. Godflesh - A World Lit Only By Fire (Industrial Sludge)
89. Kayo Dot - Coffins On Io (Progressive/Experimental Rock)
90. This Will Destroy You - Another Language (Post-Rock/Ambient)
91. Mirel Wagner - When The Cellar Children See The Light Of Day (Singer-Songwriter/Folk/Blues)
92. Keaton Henson - Romantic Works (Chamber Music/Impressionism)
93. Sinoia Caves - Beyond The Black Rainbow OST (Progressive Electronic/Horror Synth)
94. Darren Korb - Transistor OST (Downtempo/Game Music)



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!J.O.O.E.! - 06.04.2014 at 00:33  
There's a genre called "microhouse." That's extremely adorable. I need to go through this list.
IronAngel - 06.04.2014 at 10:46  
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 06.04.2014 at 00:33

There's a genre called "microhouse." That's extremely adorable. I need to go through this list.


Yeah. I am not entirely sure if Francis Harris qualifies as microhouse, but Nicholas Jaar was the closest reference I could think of. I'll think you like it, and Mondkopf. The new Tycho is not quite as good as the 2011 album, I'm afraid.
tea[m]ster - 06.04.2014 at 15:55  
Is this list ranked? I am looking for some nice dream pop stuff...start at the top?
IronAngel - 06.04.2014 at 16:03  
Written by tea[m]ster on 06.04.2014 at 15:55

Is this list ranked? I am looking for some nice dream pop stuff...start at the top?


It is not. It's mostly in order of discovery.

If you want pretty, dreamy and almost ambient, go for Tara Jane O'Neil, Snowbird, and Birds of Passage. They remind me of something like Cocteau Twins, Slowdive (on Pygmalion), Grouper and Orcas. For shoegazey guitarwalls, Have A Nice Life is boss. I have not found much good middle-of-the-road, traditional dream pop this year. It's usually pretty generic stuff.
tea[m]ster - 06.04.2014 at 16:07  
Written by IronAngel on 06.04.2014 at 16:03

It is not. It's mostly in order of discovery.


Thanks for the recs. I haven't attempted to find a lot of dream pop/shoegaze stuff this year but the one I did like:

Dum Dum Girls - Too True
IronAngel - 06.04.2014 at 18:55  
Written by tea[m]ster on 06.04.2014 at 16:07

Dum Dum Girls - Too True


I've heard some of their earlier stuff, but it did not impress me overmuch.

For shoegaze, I imagine you would dig Nothing's Guilty of Everything. You'll find it on YouTube, at least. Did not add to my list, not yet at least, but the guitar walls are pretty heavy and big.
tea[m]ster - 06.04.2014 at 19:00  
Written by IronAngel on 06.04.2014 at 18:55

I've heard some of their earlier stuff, but it did not impress me overmuch.

For shoegaze, I imagine you would dig Nothing's Guilty of Everything. You'll find it on YouTube, at least. Did not add to my list, not yet at least, but the guitar walls are pretty heavy and big.




Addicting. Such a different sound for me. Maybe it will wear off after a while but not now.

Thanks for the rec again, I will check it.
!J.O.O.E.! - 07.04.2014 at 03:18  
That Birds of Passage record is spectacular. I'm hating having Spotify interrupt the songs and breaking the immersion (I need to get a paid account again at some point).
deadone - 07.04.2014 at 03:57  
Quote:
This year, I will try to listen to less music more. That is, I won't go out of my way to hear and list every possible album I sort of dig on the first spin, and the ones I do include I aim to know thoroughly


This is the way music should be listened to.


Listening to something once doesn't really allow one to appreciate something (though it's fine to disregard an album on first listen if it's of a genre/style one doesn't like).
Troy Killjoy - 07.04.2014 at 04:50  
Written by deadone on 07.04.2014 at 03:57
Listening to something once doesn't really allow one to appreciate something (though it's fine to disregard an album on first listen if it's of a genre/style one doesn't like).

I've come to realize this myself. I used to churn through album after album, rarely revisiting ones I wrote off after a single listen. Now I have less of an urge to look into new stuff, choosing instead to focus on replaying albums I've already heard and growing familiar with them.

So far I've found my listening experience to be far more enjoyable. I may not pump out as many reviews or be able to recommend as many new albums, but I enjoy listening to music more for me than for others now so it doesn't matter.
deadone - 07.04.2014 at 04:57  
Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.04.2014 at 04:50

I've come to realize this myself. I used to churn through album after album, rarely revisiting ones I wrote off after a single listen. Now I have less of an urge to look into new stuff, choosing instead to focus on replaying albums I've already heard and growing familiar with them.

So far I've found my listening experience to be far more enjoyable. I may not pump out as many reviews or be able to recommend as many new albums, but I enjoy listening to music more for me than for others now so it doesn't matter.



Very good post and one I agree with.

Especially the bit about listening to music for one self - it is after all about enjoying something.


I tend to listen to albums dozens/hundreds of times and over the course of decades. And every now and then I throw in something new that grabs my ears.
IronAngel - 07.04.2014 at 10:47  
Written by deadone on 07.04.2014 at 03:57


Listening to something once doesn't really allow one to appreciate something (though it's fine to disregard an album on first listen if it's of a genre/style one doesn't like).


I agree, but it's not really an isolated choice between listening to a good album superficially or thoroughly. If it was, it would be a no-brainer. It's a matter of resource allocation. How are you going to allocate X amount of listening-hours between Y number of albums? Simply checking out new albums takes a lot of time. And, truthfully, there are more good (3-star) albums released a year than one person can properly listen to. The only way to differentiate between the great and the merely good is to listen to them. What I used to do was give an album a spin, and if I liked it or saw potential, add it to my list. Then I would revisit it in the months to come, or maybe delete it if I hadn't/it turned out to be crap. That is really the best way to discover what's really good, but it's time-consuming. Whether it's worth it, is anyone's guess.

So it is a real, non-trivial choice. Either way you're going to lose something valuable. I don't have so much time and energy this year (I already had a lack of enthusiasm for proper reviews last year), so I've decided to stick with names I know and cherry-pick albums that look like I am going to love them. I will not spend effort trying to appreciate albums that just might turn out to be masterpieces, or looking up obscure Bandcamp demos that could become the next big thing. I don't think it's ideal; I will almost certainly lose out on some great stuff, and might never discover what could have become an all-time favorite. But on the flip side, it makes the endeavor lot less stressful, and it lets me focus on those few albums that I do suspect will become favorites.

I think listening style is a matter of taste, but also of life situation. Sometimes you have time and energy to delve deep, other times you don't. I don't mean my list title to be a general declaration - it's just where I'm at right now.
deadone - 08.04.2014 at 01:31  
Written by IronAngel on 07.04.2014 at 10:47


Either way you're going to lose something valuable. I don't have so much time and energy this year (I already had a lack of enthusiasm for proper reviews last year), so I've decided to stick with names I know and cherry-pick albums that look like I am going to love them.
.....

I think listening style is a matter of taste, but also of life situation. Sometimes you have time and energy to delve deep, other times you don't. I don't mean my list title to be a general declaration - it's just where I'm at right now.



Whilst I agree with your post 100% the points above highlight my position exactly.
1Yossarian1 - 08.04.2014 at 22:12  
Nice list man! Loving the Thee Mt. Silver Zion/Have a Nice life/freedie Gibbs/Sun Kill Moon records!
PocketMetal - 09.04.2014 at 09:33  
Wow, I love this list. Finally a list with all kinds of genres, finding great non-metal albums can be extremely satisfying.
Neiluria - 11.04.2014 at 11:33  
I did not expect to find "Timber timbre"
I love this music "hot dreams", I love this music "hot dreams" she's sexy !
I do not know if you know: :



some pretty cool music I think!
I have lots of other if you want.
Good list
Neiluria - 11.04.2014 at 11:36  
Neiluria - 11.04.2014 at 11:37  


Good surprise in the end
IronAngel - 11.04.2014 at 12:22  
Written by Neiluria on 11.04.2014 at 11:33

I did not expect to find "Timber timbre"
I love this music "hot dreams", I love this music "hot dreams" she's sexy !


The album is one of my favorites this year, and will probably be in the top 15 by the end. I love gloomy ballads and deep male voices (Leonard Cohen, Nick Cave etc.) so I've always enjoyed Timber Timbre a lot.

I don't think I knew any of your recommendations, but Blood Orange sounded nice. CHeers.
Neiluria - 11.04.2014 at 12:32  
Written by IronAngel on 11.04.2014 at 12:22

Written by Neiluria on 11.04.2014 at 11:33

I did not expect to find "Timber timbre"
I love this music "hot dreams", I love this music "hot dreams" she's sexy !


The album is one of my favorites this year, and will probably be in the top 15 by the end. I love gloomy ballads and deep male voices (Leonard Cohen, Nick Cave etc.) so I've always enjoyed Timber Timbre a lot.

I don't think I knew any of your recommendations, but Blood Orange sounded nice. CHeers.


you have given me want to listen to the album
I know that "hot dreams" !
I'll tell you what I think when I have listened

Sorry for my english. I'm french
tea[m]ster - 16.04.2014 at 17:57  
http://thissocialcoil.bandcamp.com/album/after-the-day-before

Hey buddy, tell me why the hell I love this shit!!!
tea[m]ster - 07.05.2014 at 16:59  
Hey man, I've come to you first...

When I am searching for some atmospheric black metal, why is their an "epic metal" tag right along with it...it will say:
"atmospheric black metal / epic metal"

WTF is "epic metal"?
Erik M. - 07.05.2014 at 17:02  
Written by tea[m]ster on 07.05.2014 at 16:59

WTF is "epic metal"?


Epic black metal:



Epic doom metal:

tea[m]ster - 07.05.2014 at 17:07  
Written by Erik M. on 07.05.2014 at 17:02

Epic black metal:
Epic doom metal:


I get all that, but what does 'epic" have to with atmospheric black? I see nothing "epic" about WIITR or AoP or ITW...or Agalloch. I could go on and on...
Must be something new cause I haven't seen that tag with Atmo-Black before.
Erik M. - 07.05.2014 at 17:13  
Written by tea[m]ster on 07.05.2014 at 17:07

I get all that, but what does 'epic" have to with atmospheric black? I see nothing "epic" about WIITR or AoP or ITW...or Agalloch. I could go on and on...
Must be something new cause I haven't seen that tag with Atmo-Black before.


Summoning can be labelled as epic atmospheric black metal because it is epic music as well as very atmospheric... and black metal (though they've become less BM with each album). And no, WITTR and Agalloch indeed aren't "epic" I'd say. I wouldn't call ITW... epic either, at least not their debut. AoP = Altar of Plagues I assume? Nope, nothing epic about them either.
tea[m]ster - 07.05.2014 at 17:21  
Written by Erik M. on 07.05.2014 at 17:13

Summoning can be labelled as epic atmospheric black metal because it is epic music as well as very atmospheric... and black metal (though they've become less BM with each album). And no, WITTR and Agalloch indeed aren't "epic" I'd say. I wouldn't call ITW epic either, at least not their debut. AoP = Altar of Plagues I assume? Nope, nothing epic about them either.


Right on Eric. So are we to assume this is a new form of black metal? Is 'epic' referring to length? Because all of those bands I mentioned they all have some loooong songs. Maybe the mean "massive", in scale, for overall sound.
!J.O.O.E.! - 07.05.2014 at 17:29  
Written by tea[m]ster on 07.05.2014 at 17:21


Right on Eric. So are we to assume this is a new form of black metal? Is 'epic' referring to length? Because all of those bands I mentioned they all have some loooong songs. Maybe the mean "massive", in scale, for overall sound.

Epic is really in the eye (or ear) of the beholder, as is atmospheric really, so don't get hung up on it. It's far from being an "official" term.
Karlabos - 07.05.2014 at 17:32  
I always thought "epic" (when it comes to black metal at least) is about the same as "with a medieval touch", like... Summoning, Elffor, Emin Muyl, Caladan Brood, Faethon, and so on.
!J.O.O.E.! - 07.05.2014 at 17:33  
Written by Karlabos on 07.05.2014 at 17:32

I always thought "epic" (when it comes to black metal at least) is about the same as "with a medieval touch", like... Summoning, Elffor, Emin Muyl, Caladan Brood, Faethon, and so on.

But then we'd have to call The Meads of Asphodel epic. Which I don't think would work.
tea[m]ster - 07.05.2014 at 17:34  
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 07.05.2014 at 17:29

Epic is really in the eye (or ear) of the beholder, as is atmospheric really, so don't get hung up on it. It's far from being an "official" term.


Ahhh could have asked you too JOOE. Why am I seeing these two tags together now? I don't remember ever seeing "atmo black" and "epic" in the same tag.
tea[m]ster - 07.05.2014 at 17:34  
Written by Karlabos on 07.05.2014 at 17:32

I always thought "epic" (when it comes to black metal at least) is about the same as "with a medieval touch", like... Summoning, Elffor, Emin Muyl, Caladan Brood, Faethon, and so on.


I always think of doom...epic doom.
!J.O.O.E.! - 07.05.2014 at 17:35  
Written by tea[m]ster on 07.05.2014 at 17:34


Ahhh could have asked you too JOOE. Why am I seeing these two tags together now? I don't remember ever seeing "atmo black" and "epic" in the same tag.

It's just a bunch of adjectives people throw at bands to try to describe their sound. I don't really think "epic" or "atmospheric" are universal enough to really be used as genre tags myself, though they can be useful when describing something outside of that when used in a certain context.
tea[m]ster - 07.05.2014 at 17:38  
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 07.05.2014 at 17:35


It's just a bunch of adjectives people throw at bands to try to describe their sound. I don't really think "epic" or "atmospheric" are universal enough to really be used as genre tags myself, though they can be useful when describing something outside of that when used in a certain context.


It's just so hilarious how the shit catches on. One band or music blogger probably did it now everyone is doing it where is applies. It's like the hive mentality.
Alex Fenger - 07.05.2014 at 17:40  
Calling something "Epic" is about as valid and subjective as calling it "good". It is in no way official terminology, and I would never use it to actually label something.
Alex Fenger - 07.05.2014 at 17:41  
Also, kudos for including Teebs, Valentin Stip, Thee Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra, and a few other non-metal gems. Nice to see someone who can appreciate a wide range of music
tea[m]ster - 07.05.2014 at 17:42  
Written by Alex Fenger on 07.05.2014 at 17:40

Calling something "Epic" is about as valid and subjective as calling it "good". It is in no way official terminology, and I would never use it to actually label something.


Well it's the genre tag of the week right now, it's everywhere. Any atmospheric black metal tag I see is accompanied with "epic"
Alex Fenger - 07.05.2014 at 17:44  
Written by tea[m]ster on 07.05.2014 at 17:42

Well it's the genre tag of the week right now, it's everywhere. Any atmospheric black metal tag I see is accompanied with "epic"

That's quite bewildering to me. Just ignore it and hope it goes away I guess. There's really not enough differences in song structure or approach to differentiate these "epic" bands.
Erik M. - 07.05.2014 at 17:47  
Written by tea[m]ster on 07.05.2014 at 17:21

Right on Eric. So are we to assume this is a new form of black metal? Is 'epic' referring to length? Because all of those bands I mentioned they all have some loooong songs. Maybe the mean "massive", in scale, for overall sound.


No, "epic" is referring to the epic sound of the music: often drums add a majestic and bombastic feeling to the music, like is definitely the case with those songs I just posted. In some cases, like epic doom metal, the vocals add to the epicness as well, like in Candlemass' case. Summoning also has quite a few songs that are more epic because of the vocals. One of the best example would be this song:



Notice the majestic clean vocals that create a very uplifting and epic feeling to the music as a whole. Oh, and of course lyrics do definitely add to the epicness as well, in some cases. The chorus (clean vocals) of Farewell or example:

"Farewell, leave the shore to an ocean wide and untamed
Hold your shield high, let the wind bring your enemy your nightmare
By the bane of my blade, a mighty spell is made and
Far beyond the battle blood shall fall like a hard rain."

So basically it's drums, vocals and lyrical themes that make music epic, at least in my opinion. You can add synths/keyboards to that as well, which are mainly used to create a certain atmosphere.
Erik M. - 07.05.2014 at 17:59  
Written by Alex Fenger on 07.05.2014 at 17:40

Calling something "Epic" is about as valid and subjective as calling it "good". It is in no way official terminology, and I would never use it to actually label something.


Wrong. While calling epic of course isn't totally objective, it's really objective to some extent. Would you call Candlemass epic doom or just doom metal? Calling them simply doom metal wouldn't be wrong, but it wouldn't be accurate either. Same goes for Summoning, whether you think they're boring or not. It's generally agreed and accepted that some bands play some sort of epic metal.
IronAngel - 07.05.2014 at 18:05  
I don't know what the fuck is going on, but I'm just happy my epic list gets undeserved attention as a by-product!

I could be a wise-ass and direct you to the definition of epic poetry. But personally, I'm of the opinion you know what's epic (in the musical sense) when you hear it.
Alex Fenger - 07.05.2014 at 18:08  
Written by Erik M. on 07.05.2014 at 17:59

Wrong. While calling epic of course isn't totally objective, it's really objective to some extent. Would you call Candlemass epic doom or just doom metal? Calling them simply doom metal wouldn't be wrong, but it wouldn't be accurate either. Same goes for Summoning, whether you think they're boring or not.

Why though? You haven't provided and reasoning for it? In terms of song structure, composition, musical techniques, etc... Summoning is completely stereotypical of atmospheric black metal, and Candlemass are simply a standard Doom band.
Erik M. - 07.05.2014 at 18:10  
Written by Alex Fenger on 07.05.2014 at 18:08

Why though? You haven't provided and reasoning for it? In terms of song structure, composition, musical techniques, etc... Summoning is completely stereotypical of atmospheric black metal, and Candlemass are simply a standard Doom band.


I haven't provided reasoning for it? If you scroll a bit up then you'll see my reasoning.
tea[m]ster - 07.05.2014 at 18:11  
Written by IronAngel on 07.05.2014 at 18:05

I don't know what the fuck is going on, but I'm just happy my epic list gets undeserved attention as a by-product!

I could be a wise-ass and direct you to the definition of epic poetry. But personally, I'm of the opinion you know what's epic (in the musical sense) when you hear it.


lmfao, we took over your thread IA !!! sorry,,,
ok you explain to me what the fuck is going on with this 'epic' genre tag...
Erik M. - 07.05.2014 at 18:11  
Written by IronAngel on 07.05.2014 at 18:05

I don't know what the fuck is going on


Once again I'm the initiator of the shitstorm that's going on right now.
Alex Fenger - 07.05.2014 at 18:18  
Written by Erik M. on 07.05.2014 at 18:10

I haven't provided reasoning for it? If you scroll a bit up then you'll see my reasoning.

This is the last I'll respond on the issue since we seem to have derailed Iron's list.
You didn't provide reasoning as to why it should be classified as epic, you provided reasoning as to why YOU PERSONALLY think it's epic. None of the information you provided was objective, and you simply said various things sounded "epic", which to me, they don't. They sound mundane and repetitive. If you want to classify something as "epic", go for it, but the fact of the matter is you simply can't argue that it's a valid GENRE TAG because there aren't any structural differences in the music. The differences between ambient black metal and standard black metal ala Emperor are clear and can be objectively defined. The differences between Summoning and other "atmospheric" black metal bands are virtually non-existent except for the actual melodies and production. NOW, no more on this, you can send me a PM if you really want to continue this conversation.

Iron, I think you may enjoy this. It's a pretty interesting mix of genres ranging from noise/ambient to folk
IronAngel - 07.05.2014 at 19:14  
Oh I don't mind you having this discussion here.

Thanks for the Broads rec, I'll listen to it tonight.

We need to keep in mind that "epic doom metal" is a pretty established genre with certain stylistic features (which you can look up if you don't know), but the same doesn't seem to go for the "epic" tag in front of just any genre.
Erik M. - 07.05.2014 at 22:46  
Written by IronAngel on 07.05.2014 at 19:14

We need to keep in mind that "epic doom metal" is a pretty established genre with certain stylistic features (which you can look up if you don't know), but the same doesn't seem to go for the "epic" tag in front of just any genre.


Indeed. And for some reason Alex and Joe think it's not an official genre-tag, while in fact it's used pretty much everywhere. Candlemass is known for playing epic doom (Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, does that ring a bell?), just like Summoning is known for playing epic black metal. Hell, there's even a T-shirt that "proves" this: Summoning - Epic Black Metal T-Shirt.
!J.O.O.E.! - 07.05.2014 at 22:59  
Written by Erik M. on 07.05.2014 at 22:46

Indeed. And for some reason Alex and Joe think it's not an official genre-tag, while in fact it's used pretty much everywhere. Candlemass is known for playing epic doom (Epicus Doomicus Metallicus, does that ring a bell?), just like Summoning is known for playing epic black metal. Hell, there's even a T-shirt that "proves" this: Summoning - Epic Black Metal T-Shirt.

But there are no stylistic relations between Candlemass and Summoning, which highlights how fallible the term is and relatively useless as a descriptive genre tag.

Also, a t shirt doesn't prove anything or sway your argument. If it does I'm going to attest that Archgoat are "angelslaying black fucking metal" or Darkthrone "true Aryan black metal" my point being that bands put all kind of rubbish on their shirts. It doesn't make it official in any capacity.
Erik M. - 07.05.2014 at 22:59  
Written by Alex Fenger on 07.05.2014 at 18:18

This is the last I'll respond on the issue since we seem to have derailed Iron's list.
You didn't provide reasoning as to why it should be classified as epic, you provided reasoning as to why YOU PERSONALLY think it's epic. None of the information you provided was objective, and you simply said various things sounded "epic", which to me, they don't. They sound mundane and repetitive. If you want to classify something as "epic", go for it, but the fact of the matter is you simply can't argue that it's a valid GENRE TAG because there aren't any structural differences in the music. The differences between ambient black metal and standard black metal ala Emperor are clear and can be objectively defined. The differences between Summoning and other "atmospheric" black metal bands are virtually non-existent except for the actual melodies and production. NOW, no more on this, you can send me a PM if you really want to continue this conversation.

Iron, I think you may enjoy this. It's a pretty interesting mix of genres ranging from noise/ambient to folk


Not saying MA is very trustworthy, but this and this would tell you something. Thousands of bands are labelled as epic doom or epic black metal it seems.

Look, both epic doom and epic black metal are generally accepted genre-tags. Fine by me if you want to disagree with that simply because you don't recognize epic music when you hear it.
Erik M. - 07.05.2014 at 23:03  
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 07.05.2014 at 22:59

But there are no stylistic relations between Candlemass and Summoning, which highlights how fallible the term is and relatively useless as a descriptive genre tag.

Also, a t shirt doesn't prove anything or sway your argument. If it does I'm going to attest that Archgoat are "angelslaying black fucking metal" or Darkthrone "true Aryan black metal" my point being that bands put all kind of rubbish on their shirts. It doesn't make it official in any capacity.


Often bands that play epic metal, whether it's doom, black or heavy, all have a similar kind of bombastic drumming. Lyrical themes, often fantasy and mythology, are also a thing they have in common. Generally the music is rather uplifting, although I know that's pretty subjective. I linked that T-Shirt to point it out, not to prove it hence why I wrote "prove".

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