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Posted by King_of_the_Kill on 12.03.2011 at 16:13
Hey guys, so I'm really into thrash metal, and I've been looking for some old-school death metal, along the lines of Death, Master, Morbid Angel, etc.

Just wondering if you can recommend anything, thanks.



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Malphas

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  13.04.2013 at 17:21
Dl all albums to hear em once (or a few times xD) and if you like them, then is the time to think about which ones to buy lol
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  14.04.2013 at 21:30
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  15.04.2013 at 00:52
Written by Sunioj on 13.04.2013 at 10:29

@Lord Reigner
I think Sulphur Aeon is reminiscent in the sense that it has a lot of atmosphere and the feel of the album is very epic.


I agree. But I also think that the vocalists sings kinda like Jon Nodveidt.
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  15.06.2013 at 23:04
Still find it baffling that some people think this band is black / death metal (MA, Youtube comments etc). Incredible band at any rate though, just not at all black metal.

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  15.06.2013 at 23:50
Wtf? some people call Grave Miasma black/death? totallt death metal they are and great too
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  16.06.2013 at 00:06
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 15.06.2013 at 23:50

Wtf? some people call Grave Miasma black/death? totallt death metal they are and great too

Indeed. The ziribai commenter on this youtube video is insisting it's black / death metal.
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  16.06.2013 at 00:10
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 16.06.2013 at 00:06

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 15.06.2013 at 23:50

Wtf? some people call Grave Miasma black/death? totallt death metal they are and great too

Indeed. The ziribai commenter on this youtube video is insisting it's black / death metal.

My god I love this one Death Metal got its influence from Black Metal not the other way around,"" when in fact black was a vreakway from death so black getting influence from death and not the other way around
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SuicidalCyco
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  16.06.2013 at 08:34
For old school death metal check out:
Repulsion
Entombed
Unanimated
Pestiliance
Atheist
Autopsy
Nocturnus
Immolation
Malevolent Creation
Pungent Stench
Master
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  17.06.2013 at 19:38
Written by Guest on 16.06.2013 at 08:34

For old school death metal check out:
Repulsion

Good album. Actually grindcore.
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  17.06.2013 at 23:15
Written by Guest on 17.06.2013 at 19:38

Written by Guest on 16.06.2013 at 08:34

For old school death metal check out:
Repulsion

Good album. Actually grindcore.


Well it definitely paved the way for grindcore and it definitely had grindcore in it, but it also had death metal in it as well, Horrified was featured in Decibel's top 100 death metal albums of all time, I think it was 8.
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  18.06.2013 at 10:43




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  18.06.2013 at 16:39
Written by Guest on 17.06.2013 at 23:15

Horrified was featured in Decibel's top 100 death metal albums of all time...



doesn't mean too much since it also featured Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride (although both their debuts were heavily influenced by death metal, so I can somehow get into that) But ffs they also included Sepultura - Schizophrenia which is pure thrash and has nothing to do with death metal, they might as well have included Slayer in that list.
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  19.06.2013 at 04:01
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.06.2013 at 16:39

Written by Guest on 17.06.2013 at 23:15

Horrified was featured in Decibel's top 100 death metal albums of all time...



doesn't mean too much since it also featured Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride (although both their debuts were heavily influenced by death metal, so I can somehow get into that) But ffs they also included Sepultura - Schizophrenia which is pure thrash and has nothing to do with death metal, they might as well have included Slayer in that list.


Yeah but Sepultura had death metal influences in their music, which is why they're labeled as death thrash, and in 1987 the only thing that was death metal at the time was Seven Churches which Schizophrenia kind of sounds like, so at the time maybe it could have been death metal, but now a days its definitely not death metal.
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  20.06.2013 at 16:06
Rather good. Extremely cavernous stuff.



This also sounds excellent. Unlike other touted bands these guys do seem to have a few black metal passages and riffs going on, as well as some nice creepy, melodic soloing etc.

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  22.11.2013 at 15:21
New master album is very good.
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  25.11.2013 at 10:53
Shrapnel Storm. From Finland. If Youre into Cannibal Corpse, Six Feet Under, Obituary, Bolt Thrower etc., check this out.

www.reverbnation.com/shrapnelstorm
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  26.11.2013 at 01:05
I Highly recommend WOMMBATH (Internal Caustic Torments album)/ CRYPT OF KERBEROS (Macrodex of War Album)/ SLUGATHOR (ALL THEIR ALBUMS!)
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  30.11.2013 at 17:47
Nice raw little debut demo from Belgians 'Bones'

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  30.11.2013 at 17:50
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 30.11.2013 at 17:47

Nice raw little debut demo from Belgians 'Bones'





it's a great little demo, which was already rperessed once this year and that edition is also sold out now. Another good old scholl death metal is Haunted by the US band Rude.
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  30.11.2013 at 18:07
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.11.2013 at 17:50

Another good old scholl death metal is Haunted by the US band Rude.

Sounds good indeed. I'll add it to the list.
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  30.11.2013 at 18:10
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 30.11.2013 at 18:07

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.11.2013 at 17:50

Another good old scholl death metal is Haunted by the US band Rude.

Sounds good indeed. I'll add it to the list.



I am actually looking at both the Bones - Demo 2013 2nd edition and Rude - Haunted demo cassettes now. They are right in front of me Btw, Patrick Mameli of Pestilence does a guest solo n the title song of the Haunted demo.
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  30.11.2013 at 22:14
I've been listening to Morbius' "The Shades Below" a little more lately and I swear, it's one of the lost masterpieces of the classic death metal era. Very unique and very dark. It's a shame that this one is long out of print.



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  20.03.2014 at 21:01
Wow, these guys are playing with Bolzer and Cruciamentum in a few months in London. Am so there. Couple of a great sounding Irish bands.

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  21.03.2014 at 01:51
Written by deadone on 21.03.2014 at 01:12

Malthusian sound ok but still too rooted in Black Metal for my liking.

(Incidentally this means it doesn't sound old school DM to me - after all BM was developed as a counter to Death Metal. I never regarded Dissection as DM. The whole blackened DM thing makes me think Zyklon and Behemoth in early 2000s and not Stockholm/Florida 1988-95).

I liked ZOM musically but they need to shoot the singer or at least get rid of those awful effects they've washed the vocals in.

I don't hear any black metal in them. This is like people calling Grave Miasma et al black, despite them have nothing stylistically in common with black metal. It's cavernous, dark, evil etc. but style wise shares nothing in common. Dissection were always more blackened melodeath to my ears, so nothing death metal there either.
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  21.03.2014 at 02:07
Written by deadone on 21.03.2014 at 02:04

Having just listened to that Grave Miasma song posted above, they sound more Black than Death to me - in particular guitar tone and that overall "cavernous, dark, evil" atmosphere you refer too. Even the faster drums are reminiscent of Black Metal.


To me "old school" DM refers to the styles originated in the 1988-95 period and in particular Florida, Stockholm and more brutal DM ala Suffocation.

To me these are all natural modern progression from the likes of Incantation's brand of doomy death metal, who are very much old school and not at all black and where that cavernous sound (probably) originated from. As I say it may have a murky and grim tone and atmosphere but that doesn't make it black metal when the riffs and progressions are nothing like black metal bands.
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  25.03.2014 at 00:52
Written by deadone on 21.03.2014 at 02:04


they sound more Black than Death to me - in particular guitar tone and that overall "cavernous, dark, evil" atmosphere you refer too.


But I think music should be classified based on its ingredients and not the effect it has on the listener. "cavernous, dark, evil" is not something you could prove, because it's the feeling you get from their sound.
GM utilizes dm approach to create cavernous music, and it makes them death metal.
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hellbornt

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  08.04.2014 at 05:12
Check out old Vader, Immolation, Nunslaughter, Cancer, and Demilich.

Convulse is also a great old school Finnish death metal band that has just released a new album. Check out a review: www.satansmusicbox.com/reviews/convulse-evil-prevails
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